Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?

avro25

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Are you a billionaire?

Simple question...uh...John...or whatever

It's mr wild to you.
 

taxslave

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ranges are much longer now. I believe Zero has a motorcycle that will go 300 plus mile on a charge. Full charge takes 4 hours - 90 minutes with super charger option.

Getting better but I still couldn't get from one end of this rock to the other without a long wait for charging.
 

taxslave

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Given time, the battery tech will change and extend ranges and what not.

In the meantime, i see a lot of potential use within the cities/towns as a local commuter

I expect it to and the potential is certainly there but the product is not. And not at a price the average person can afford. Also there is still the problem of electric vehicles paying their fair share of road maintenance fees.
 

darkbeaver

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It's already been done.
 

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I expect it to and the potential is certainly there but the product is not. And not at a price the average person can afford. Also there is still the problem of electric vehicles paying their fair share of road maintenance fees.

You almost had it right.
 

captain morgan

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I expect it to and the potential is certainly there but the product is not. And not at a price the average person can afford. Also there is still the problem of electric vehicles paying their fair share of road maintenance fees.

The cost of these vehicles will be a big hurdle. From what I've been reading, the cost of the battery system alone can range between 6 and 10 thousand. That said, the economic argument is the biggest obstacle that will determine if the avg consumer switches

On a more forward thinking aspect, power generation to service both the minimum base-load reqs for a city/town will have to be ramped up significantly as more and more people switch... this means infrastructure has to also be dealt with

Still a fair ways to go before we see wholesale changes
 

captain morgan

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Sensible comment CM and very refreshing.

It's the reality Avro and all along my position is that this not a question if IF but a question of WHEN.

those individuals that want to believe that simply because an alternative exists really need to look at the big picture and understand what it is going to take to get from A to B on this file

That said, i do appreciate the comment all the same
 

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Getting better but I still couldn't get from one end of this rock to the other without a long wait for charging.
the lack of range and the high price are both problems that will be solved eventually. The Zero bikes can get a range of about 138 miles combined city/highway - so you could commute into Vancouver and back out from 100 plus km away. They will also fully charge in less than a working day so you could commute in from 200 plus kms and back out after charging while you worked.
 

darkbeaver

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the lack of range and the high price are both problems that will be solved eventually. The Zero bikes can get a range of about 138 miles combined city/highway - so you could commute into Vancouver and back out from 100 plus km away. They will also fully charge in less than a working day so you could commute in from 200 plus kms and back out after charging while you worked.

I,m not enthused about that eventually part. They certainly are good wheels nice ride nice accellaration but I,m old and cheap and there's always lots of half cooked amost junkers I think I,ll stick with them till the end. I'll be dead for decades before they get the battery capacity to charge and forget barring any tech breakthroughs, small thermo nuclear suitcase size power plants would be convienient and remotely affordable mass produced. I digress, it's fun.Three of those bikes might work for me, unless I hired a planning dept to improve my trip planning, inventory streamlinning, the too frequent unschedualed frightening lack of spirits and cannabis, no I'll stick to that stuff that leaks out of the planet in perpetuity, a fukkin common byproduct of planetary brakeing, it's the secret ingredient in the grease that luricates that allows the crust to move on the mantle bearings. If we don't burn it off it will eventually cause massive tar pits, so where do you think the money should go?
 

Hoid

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I,m not enthused about that eventually part. They certainly are good wheels nice ride nice accellaration but I,m old and cheap and there's always lots of half cooked amost junkers I think I,ll stick with them till the end. I'll be dead for decades before they get the battery capacity to charge and forget barring any tech breakthroughs, small thermo nuclear suitcase size power plants would be convienient and remotely affordable mass produced. I digress, it's fun.Three of those bikes might work for me, unless I hired a planning dept to improve my trip planning, inventory streamlinning, the too frequent unschedualed frightening lack of spirits and cannabis, no I'll stick to that stuff that leaks out of the planet in perpetuity, a fukkin common byproduct of planetary brakeing, it's the secret ingredient in the grease that luricates that allows the crust to move on the mantle bearings. If we don't burn it off it will eventually cause massive tar pits, so where do you think the money should go?
you simply don't understand what has happened to science.

it won't take even one decade.
 

darkbeaver

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you simply don't understand what has happened to science.

it won't take even one decade.

That's a liberal estimation, one decade. However I do understand what has happened to science, it's history happens to be of great interest to me. The purchase of minds is an old trade, the control of the minds who pay the tax is paramount in the conquest of science by banks. cha ching cha ching. Someday contemporary science will reach the level of old Egypt or even Atlantis or Pangea maybe.