Is Bush the worst U.S. president ever?

[MikeyDB]

It's amazing to me that Americans "believe in" the exercise of ersatz democracy in their little republic and yet with an entire stadium of people booing this moron no one asks why there haven't been legal actions taken against an obviously corrupt and profoundly ineffectual president.

If only Americans would practice regime-change where it counts.

 

[Curiosity]

McCaulley

Well I see the piranha's have come out to devour yet another wanderer into the hate America club....

If you are fifteen (mentally at least fifty) you are doing an excellent job in your defense and your rational responses to this gang who see only your flag and your affiliation - rather than what you write and stand for.

It matters nothing to them as long as they take down another who doesn't 'belong'.

Well Done young man - it makes my heart sing to know there are still people like you
who can stand up to a stoning crowd and make reasoned argument. Curiosity

 

[Colpy]

It's amazing to me that Americans "believe in" the exercise of ersatz democracy in their little republic and yet with an entire stadium of people booing this moron no one asks why there haven't been legal actions taken against an obviously corrupt and profoundly ineffectual president.

If only Americans would practice regime-change where it counts.

How "ersatz"?

Just because it happens in the USA?

In many ways, their system, as convoluted as it is, is superior to our own..........

What would you call a "real" democracy?

One in which everyone agreed with you?

 

[normbc9]

Once Bush , Cheney and their minions get done handling (screw it up worse) the current financial crisis it will no doubt be the frosting on the cake for this Administration. But bear in mind they don't care either. When the term is done they just ride off into the sunset in their taxpayer funded jets with the taxpayer funded security agents too and go off shore and live off the commission checks from the arms industry. But we are a resilient nation of hard working people and in spite of the disasterous handling of this Presidency we will recover. Hopefully neither of the principles will be greeted in the future by "Adoring Fans."

 

[gopher]

Thursday: 1 US Airman, 41 Iraqis Killed; 66 Iraqis Wounded


http://www.antiwar.com/updates/?articleid=12625


"mission accomplished" sure sounds more stupid than ever!

 

[talloola]

It will so so nice, when bush and cheney are gone, the time can't go fast enough for me.
If I were them I would watch my back when free, without body guards, etc. cause there
must be many many u.s. citizens, (nevermind other countries), who would like to 'take
them out', one day, while they are having a nice little horsey ride, or, out hunting quail,
or friends, or whatever cheney hunts.

 

[Walter]

time can't go fast enough for me.

Careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

 

[MikeyDB]

Gosh Colpy....

I'm sorry to hear about your memory deficits. Suppose you find a nice "history" book somewhere and read about the war in Viet Nam. Maybe you could find a reference or two regarding the American invaision of Iraq....

The icing on the cake is of course that while Americans are losing their homes losing their jobs and lost their once better "image" around the world, the wealthy banks and mortgage companies are being bailed-out by the American government. When the administration puts the "interests" of petroleum companies ahead of the welfare and security of the people who's actually running the government?

What would you call a "real" democracy?

One in which everyone agreed with you?

Nice getting a cheap shot from you with respect to "What would you call a "real" democracy "One in which everyone agreed with you?"

To use your arguing tactics....

"Baloney!"

If you really think that a war that has put the United States in trillions of dollars of debt on the basis of lies exaggeration and outright corruption is demonstrative of a "democracy" at work.....

Well like I said elsewhere.... Little point in attempting to talk to you about anything YOU disagree with.

 

[Toro]

Bush is the worst President of my lifetime IMO.

 

[darkbeaver]

Bush is the worst President of my lifetime IMO.

Hi handsome. Your stern condemnation of Mr Bush in your op/art-ikle is thought provoking to say the least. One wonders where you find the time to contribute, what with the capitalist pyramid under heavy sustained Martian attack. Masterfull sparce use of english to deliver a knockout punch. Great reading is often like that they tell me though I'm usually too thick to discern. I'd put a smiley here but mine are broken for some reason.

 

[gopher]

Is Bush the worst? Absolutely.

Here's another excellent program from C-Span that proves the point:


http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?CatCodePairs=,&ArchiveDays=100


scroll down to:


Villanova Univ. School of Law Iraqi Refugee Conference
Villanova University Law School hosts an Iraqi refugee conference. Panelists include NGO providers discussing the refugee crisis today and providing updates from the field, also foreign ambassadors discuss the world's response.
4/4/2008: WASHINGTON, DC: 3 hr. 28 min.




A very telling broadcast. Glad to see Bush has so few supporters on this forum nowadays and this shows illustrates why.

 

[gopher]

British fear US commander is beating the drum for Iran strikes


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/05/wiran105.xml



"In remarks interpreted as signalling a change in his approach to Iran, Gen Petraeus last week hit out at the Iranian leadership. "The rockets that were launched at the Green Zone were Iranian-provided, Iranian-made rockets," he said. "All of this in complete violation of promises made by President Ahmadinejad and the other most senior Iranian leaders to their Iraqi counterparts."



And, as usual, we are still waiting for proof.


IMPEACH BUSH!!

 

[talloola]

I don't believe it either, they are cooking up an excuse to go to war. Come on congress
start hollering and yelling at bush, 'send him to his room', and when cheney shows up
tell him where the quail are flying, he will run and get his gun, he just wants 'anything' to
shoot at, whether it's quail or iranians, or his friends, it doesn't matter to him.

 

[gopher]

AP Poll: Bush Public Approval at New Low


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/10/ap-poll-bush-public-appro_n_96162.html


"Public approval of President Bush has dipped to a new low in the Associated Press-Ipsos poll, driven by dissatisfaction with his handling of the economy.
A survey released Thursday showed 28 percent approve of the overall job Bush is doing. That was statistically tied with his previous low in the poll of 30 percent last month and in February."




Yup. Bush is the worst.

 

[talloola]

AP Poll: Bush Public Approval at New Low


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/10/ap-poll-bush-public-appro_n_96162.html


"Public approval of President Bush has dipped to a new low in the Associated Press-Ipsos poll, driven by dissatisfaction with his handling of the economy.
A survey released Thursday showed 28 percent approve of the overall job Bush is doing. That was statistically tied with his previous low in the poll of 30 percent last month and in February."




Yup. Bush is the worst.

Hopefully by the time he leaves office, the polls for him will be in negative numbers,
how would that read? minus 10 maybe, is that possible, guess not.:smile:

 

[normbc9]

The Iranian question is one that has been festering with this bunch for a long time. If you talk about a problem enough you can be consumed by it and this is the case here. But Gopher and talloola have it right in my book. The next thing to be tried to pull us out of this current fiscal crisis will be another war. Iran, Somalia or ???

 

[Praxius]

How "ersatz"?

Just because it happens in the USA?

In many ways, their system, as convoluted as it is, is superior to our own..........

*tries to hold it in.... snickers.... coughs* BWAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! OMG!!!

Opps, I pooped a little there.

What would you call a "real" democracy?

One in which everyone agreed with you?

No, one where the majority spoke and made it clear where they want to go as a country...... *gasps* ..... And the President/Prime Minister actually did what they wanted!!! *slaps cheeks in suprise*

WOW! What a concept!! It just boggles the minds, it does!

 

[jimmoyer]

*tries to hold it in.... snickers.... coughs* BWAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! OMG!!!

Opps, I pooped a little there.
------------------------------------------------------Praxius------------------------------------

Try to have a little more sphincter discipline, Praxius.

 

[Avro]

How "ersatz"?

Just because it happens in the USA?

In many ways, their system, as convoluted as it is, is superior to our own..........

What would you call a "real" democracy?

One in which everyone agreed with you?

What a load of tripe!

In a real democracy the leader of any nation should be exposed to tough questions by his or her opponents like our PM in parliment. They have Bush all safe and sound in a glass bubble as to not expose how weak minded he is.

Bush has turned a great country into a joke, I only hope the next prez fixes it but considering McCain is going to win I doubt it.

 

[Tundra Tornado]

Probably

Speaking as a Unitedstatesofamericanian, I can tell you it's not even a controversial question any more in the US. People just accept that he is. It's certainly true that has succeeded in alienating every corner of the US political spectrum. The conservatives hate him. The moderates hate him. The liberals hate him. Etc.

In terms of foreign policy, he has the eerie, and frightening knack, for always choosing the wrong course of action, in every instance. Even Nixon could point to his breakthrough in China to offset his failings. I fear Bush will have an entirely negative legacy.

As to whether, from a historical perspective, Bush is "the worst" is an interesting question. I'm inclined to give that honor to President Wilson. Not an obvious choice, I know, but:

(a) He got the US involved in WWI, which was a war we absolutely had no reason to be in.
(b) Acquiesced to the Treaty of Versailles, whose provisions led to WWII.

I know it depends on how far you want to stretch the chain of causality, but one of history's big "what ifs" is what if Germany had won WWI? There would probably have been no WWII, no Holocaust. And a German victory would have been far more likely if the US had not intervened on the side of the Allies.

But yeah, Bush is an incompetent ****. No question.