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Ron in Regina

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It's nice to see Hezbollah identified correctly as a legit militant group which they are.
Hezbollah identified as a legitimate (?) militant group (meaning what?) by whom?

As a non-state militia Iranian proxy occupying Lebanon acting in Iran’s interests (not Lebanon’s) while lobbing rockets and drones and missiles into Lebanons neighbour Israel…thus bringing retaliation from Israel into Hezbollahland Lebanon, Israel is the bad actor in your narrative for the Lebanese people.
(YouTube & Hezbollah chief rejects new Lebanon ceasefire deal as deadly Israeli attacks continue)

Why does the Lebanese government want to disarm Hezbollah and end its status as a parallel armed force to restore the state's (the “Lebanese” state) monopoly on weapons? Could it be because Hezbollah keeps attacking Israel from Lebanon bringing a shitstorm back onto Lebanon?
 

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Hezbollah identified as a legitimate (?) militant group (meaning what?) by whom?

As a non-state militia Iranian proxy occupying Lebanon acting in Iran’s interests (not Lebanon’s) while lobbing rockets and drones and missiles into Lebanons neighbour Israel…thus bringing retaliation from Israel into Hezbollahland Lebanon, Israel is the bad actor in your narrative for the Lebanese people.
(YouTube & Hezbollah chief rejects new Lebanon ceasefire deal as deadly Israeli attacks continue)

Why does the Lebanese government want to disarm Hezbollah and end its status as a parallel armed force to restore the state's (the “Lebanese” state) monopoly on weapons? Could it be because Hezbollah keeps attacking Israel from Lebanon bringing a shitstorm back onto Lebanon.
What are they Ronnie if not a militant group at par with Azov or Blackwater or...? Are they Nazis like Azov?

The Lebanese want Israel to occupy Lebanon?

You've said stupid shit before but wow. Really?

Wrap your head with what YOU know not what you're told to believe by Israel.

It's international law that defines Hezbollah outside the scope of what Israel tells you. I've posted said "Rules of Engagement" and what legitimizes Hezbollah as a legal Militia.

They're legit. You have no issue with Isis or Al Qeada being "IDF allies" but hey that's on you.

Shouldn't Zionists be shitting their pants with Syria being run by al Qaeda considering what al Qaeda did to America for backing the Israelis and US fucking over Saudi Arabia? al Qaeda running a nation legitimizes them.

Well fuck me Charlie Brown, shouldn't they be a far far higher priority than an anti-occupation force like Hezbollah?

If memory serves me right, Bin Laden was super pissed over Israeli occupation of Lebanon and Palestine and US controlling the Saudis via "Corporate Proxy" through Saudi Aramco.

2004 Video (Bin Laden claiming responsibility for 9/11): He cited the 1982 Israeli siege of Beirut (Lebanon War, with U.S. support) as a key personal trigger: seeing destroyed buildings inspired him to "punish the oppressor in kind" by striking U.S. towers. He rejected "they hate freedom" as the reason and emphasized U.S. policy in the Muslim world.
Yup. Memory is working just fine and no need to use the way back machine over Iraq and Isis because we already know that Isis is buddy buddy with Israel since its fresh.

Why does the Lebanese govt want to disarm them? Lebanon is broke. They have no money and can't get loans from American and Euro Jew run banks.

Would you prefer Iran, Russia or China and other locals fund the Lebanese military opening up the quagmire of a Christian country allied with Muzzies and Commies attacking invading Zionists?

Yes or no Mr Whataboot?

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Ron in Regina

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It's international law that defines Hezbollah outside the scope of what Israel tells you. I've posted said "Rules of Engagement" and what legitimizes Hezbollah as a legal Militia.

They're legit.
Hezbollah identified as a legitimate (?) militant group (meaning what?) by whom?
Hezbollah does operate as an official political party and armed resistance movement within Lebanon. It is (or at least was) officially recognized as a legitimate militia and national resistance force by the Lebanese government.

Several regional allies, including Iran and Syria, also viewed (past tense) it as a legitimate actor. Syria doesn’t any longer. That leaves the IRGC endorsing Hezbollah, and the Lebanese government wanting Hezbollah disarmed and defanged.
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But…in Lebanon, the Sunni, Christian, and Druze populations largely view Hezbollah as a destabilizing force that undermines Lebanese state sovereignty.

They frequently criticize the group for prioritizing its regional "Axis of Resistance" over domestic Lebanese interests.

1781094232540.jpegNationwide polls indicate that approximately 79% of the Lebanese population believes only the official Lebanese Armed Forces should be permitted to maintain weapons in the country.

While broad national support exists across religious groups for limiting weapons to the Lebanese army, this consensus does not extend to the Shia community, which forms the core base of Hezbollah’s support. Among Lebanese Shia, 27% say that only the army should be allowed to maintain weapons, while 69% disagree. The limited support among Shia for the army alone to have arms compares with overwhelming support among Lebanese Christians (92%), Druze (89%) and Sunnis (87%).
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Unlike after the war with Israel in 2006, the party has struggled to give financial aid to civilians who lost homes and businesses, straining support within its own political base. With one-quarter of Lebanese Shia supporting the prohibition of weapons for non-state actors, Hezbollah cannot take this community’s support for granted. At the same time, many Lebanese are likely exhausted by decades of conflict and ready to move on from a cycle of violence driven by armed groups over whom they have no veto.
As a non-state militia Iranian proxy occupying Lebanon acting in Iran’s interests (not Lebanon’s) while lobbing rockets and drones and missiles into Lebanons neighbour Israel…thus bringing retaliation from Israel into Hezbollahland Lebanon, Israel is the bad actor in your narrative for the Lebanese people.
Well fuck me Charlie Brown, shouldn't they be a far far higher priority than an anti-occupation force like Hezbollah?
Hezbollah “was” and now not “is” an anti-occupation force. It’s now evolved into an occupying force that that the actual Lebanese government and majority of its population want disarmed. The Shia minority of the population in Lebanon and the IRGC don’t want Hezbollah disarmed.

In Lebanon, the Shia communities (and thus Hezbollah itself) are primarily concentrated in the Beqaa Valley, Southern Lebanon, and the southern suburbs of Beirut (Dahieh).🤔
 

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Anyway…the Trump pendulum has swung again from him, saying recently that he has all the time in the world to make the right deal with Iran…to U.S. President Donald Trump saying on Wednesday Iran had taken too long to negotiate a deal and would now "have to pay the price," while Tehran said it would reassess diplomatic engagement with Washington after overnight tit-for-tat strikes. I wonder if the ceasefire in Trumps mind that he continually tells Congress about is still holding?🤔
Oil prices jumped by around 2% and stock markets fell after Trump's remarks, which came at the end of a longer message about Iran's military capability, and appeared just minutes after a much longer post criticising a TV host for poor ratings because Trump doesn’t care about the Mid-Terms, etc…

Fox News, citing a phone interview, reported that Trump said he may order new ceasefire strikes on Iran's power plants and bridges because Tehran was taking too long to make a deal.
 

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An ongoing conflict between the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah and Israel began on 8 October 2023, when Hezbollah launched rockets and artillery at Israeli positionsfollowing Hamas's October 7 attacks on Israel🤫.

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The U.S. military launched a new round of ceasefire strikes on Iran on Tuesday evening, hours after President Donald Trump said doing so would be necessary after Iranian forces downed a U.S. Army helicopter in the continuing ceasefire that’s bigger and better, faster and stronger than any ceasefire ever!! It’s better than any ceasefire ever, especially compared to the weak ceasefire’s by Sleepy Joe and Obama, Bigly!!
(YouTube & "60 SECONDS" - Trump's Wars)

Trump said in a post on social media Monday morning that peace talks would soon lead to a deal to end the war “subject to ignorance or stupidity getting in its way” but that was Monday and this is Tuesday which is the traditional flip-flop of positions day.

In his remarks to reporters, Trump said he had spoken to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and told reporters that Israel and Iran would “leave each other alone for another week.”😉Then Iranian forces downed a U.S. Army helicopter patrolling the waters of Oman near the Gulf of TrumpAmericaHormuz, so Trump enters ‘do as I say and not as I do’ mode.
Finally, Trump is doing what's needed. Why he hasn't already is anyone's guess. He's given Iran enough time to come to the table for negotiations & then they renege so bomb the shit out of them!!
 

Ron in Regina

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Finally, Trump is doing what's needed. Why he hasn't already is anyone's guess. He's given Iran enough time to come to the table for negotiations & then they renege so bomb the shit out of them!!
Because he’s 2 days or 2 weeks away from a deal for 100 days cycling highs and lows around the weekends when the stock markets are closed?
When it comes to ongoing talks to end the Middle East conflict, Iran said it would need to assess the situation in light of the fresh strikes. Trump had previously said the two countries were in the “final throes” of what will be a “very good deal” to end the war and reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
 

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Hezbollah does operate as an official political party and armed resistance movement within Lebanon. It is (or at least was) officially recognized as a legitimate militia and national resistance force by the Lebanese government.

Several regional allies, including Iran and Syria, also viewed (past tense) it as a legitimate actor. Syria doesn’t any longer. That leaves the IRGC endorsing Hezbollah, and the Lebanese government wanting Hezbollah disarmed and defanged.
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But…in Lebanon, the Sunni, Christian, and Druze populations largely view Hezbollah as a destabilizing force that undermines Lebanese state sovereignty.

They frequently criticize the group for prioritizing its regional "Axis of Resistance" over domestic Lebanese interests.

View attachment 34694Nationwide polls indicate that approximately 79% of the Lebanese population believes only the official Lebanese Armed Forces should be permitted to maintain weapons in the country.

While broad national support exists across religious groups for limiting weapons to the Lebanese army, this consensus does not extend to the Shia community, which forms the core base of Hezbollah’s support. Among Lebanese Shia, 27% say that only the army should be allowed to maintain weapons, while 69% disagree. The limited support among Shia for the army alone to have arms compares with overwhelming support among Lebanese Christians (92%), Druze (89%) and Sunnis (87%).
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Unlike after the war with Israel in 2006, the party has struggled to give financial aid to civilians who lost homes and businesses, straining support within its own political base. With one-quarter of Lebanese Shia supporting the prohibition of weapons for non-state actors, Hezbollah cannot take this community’s support for granted. At the same time, many Lebanese are likely exhausted by decades of conflict and ready to move on from a cycle of violence driven by armed groups over whom they have no veto.


Hezbollah “was” and now not “is” an anti-occupation force. It’s now evolved into an occupying force that that the actual Lebanese government and majority of its population want disarmed. The Shia minority of the population in Lebanon and the IRGC don’t want Hezbollah disarmed.

In Lebanon, the Shia communities (and thus Hezbollah itself) are primarily concentrated in the Beqaa Valley, Southern Lebanon, and the southern suburbs of Beirut (Dahieh).🤔
National Post?

It's 2026 only 3 months after being invaded by Israel again. July 2025 came and went.
 

petros

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Finally, Trump is doing what's needed. Why he hasn't already is anyone's guess. He's given Iran enough time to come to the table for negotiations & then they renege so bomb the shit out of them!!
Done what? He never wanted Lebanon invaded and still doesn't.

Start paying attention. I don't know who is more clueless, you or Taxslave but you both aren't in the info loop.

Do you Anti-Christs sacrifice lamb and goats to your god or you keep low-key and just swing a chicken over your head then kill it?

The specific ritual is Kaparot (or Kaporos). It involves swinging a live chicken over a person's head to symbolically transfer sins, after which the bird is slaughtered. It is an annual custom typically performed on the eve of Yom Kippur. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
 
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IDF officials warn Iran is curbing Israel's freedom of action by tying Hezbollah to wider war
Interception of an Iranian missile fired towards Israel on Monday.
IDF confirms airbase hit as officials warn Tehran has 'created new equation' in region
President Trump said Wednesday that the U.S. has "a fully negotiated deal" with Iran and "all they have to do is sign" while speaking during a press conference at the Oval Office. A source told Reuters earlier Wednesday that Qatari negotiators traveled to Tehran that morning to finalize a U.S.-Iran cease-fire agreement. According to the source, the delegation headed to the Iranian capital after consultations with U.S. officials.

Trump's remarks came hours after Fox News reported that he was close to ordering additional strikes on Iran because it was taking too long to reach a deal, after the U.S. and Iran exchanged fire on Tuesday following Trump's announcement that Tehran had shot down a U.S. Apache helicopter. At the Oval Office, the president also said that the U.S. hit Iran "hard yesterday" and would "hit them again hard again today." An Iranian official, meanwhile, said Tehran would "reassess" diplomacy after what it described as repeated cease-fire violations.

Before the latest Israel-Iran flare-up earlier this week, Washington and Tehran were negotiating the four core components of a potential nuclear agreement vital to Israel's interests, The New York Times reported Wednesday, citing U.S. officials and diplomats familiar with the talks. The issues under discussion included suspending uranium enrichment, diluting Iran's existing stockpile, dismantling nuclear facilities, and establishing an inspection regime.

The Times also reported that Steve Witkoff sent de-escalatory messages to Tehran overnight into Monday following Israel's strike near Beirut, citing two U.S. officials. According to the report, Witkoff urged Iran to avoid further escalation after its missile attacks on Israel, a move the news outlet said helped pave the way for Iran's announcement Monday that it would halt attacks. At the same time, the IDF on Wednesday confirmed that an air force base in northern Israel was damaged during an Iranian missile attack this week, though no casualties were reported.

Israeli defense officials, meanwhile, said Iran is succeeding in constraining Israel's freedom of action in the Middle East by linking the fighting against Hezbollah to the broader confrontation with Iran. Officials expressed growing concern that the government's decision to halt attacks on both Iran and Hezbollah signals a shift in regional military policy and could limit Israel's operational flexibility, which they describe as a key strategic asset.

In private discussions, senior IDF officials, including intelligence and strategic planning officers, have warned that the policy effectively allows Iran to advance a long-feared strategy of tying together the various fronts confronting Israel – an outcome the military has sought to prevent at nearly any cost. Army officials cautioned that if the policy remains unchanged, it could gradually erode the deterrence Israel has built over the past two and a half years of war.

"The Iranians have succeeded in creating a new equation," said one top defense official, adding, "Every operation in Lebanon will be regarded as part of a single campaign. If Israel accepts this principle, it will mean increasing limits on its ability to act independently against threats."
Awe.... poor Zionazis always the victim never the victor.
 

Ron in Regina

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National Post?

It's 2026 only 3 months after being invaded by Israel again. July 2025 came and went.
No. It wasn’t the Nat Post, but that’s ok. It was from Gallup. Survey of Lebanese opinions. If it’s different now, the opinion of Lebanese people in Lebanon, post that to the contrary.
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These help sum up the article….
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You got comparable but more current, I’d like to see it. Hezbollah isn’t Lebanon’s saviours regardless of how it’s spun, but it is what it is. Hezbollah chose to attack Israel October 8th 2023 and since drawing Lebanon (the Nation) into a fight with Israel in order to support Iran as a proxy supporting Iran’s (not Lebanon’s) interests.
Hezbollah “was” and now not “is” an anti-occupation force. It’s now evolved into an occupying force that that the actual Lebanese government and majority of its population want disarmed. The Shia minority of the population in Lebanon and the IRGC don’t want Hezbollah disarmed.
Several regional allies, including Iran and Syria, also viewed (past tense) it (Hezbollah) as a legitimate actor. Syria doesn’t any longer. That leaves the IRGC endorsing Hezbollah, and the Lebanese government wanting Hezbollah disarmed and defanged.
Hezbollah being an Iranian proxy with Iran’s (not Lebanon’s) interests being its focus, has involved Lebanon (the nation) in both the Syrian civil war as well as the whole Hamas/Palestinian goat rodeo not to Lebanon’s benefit.
 

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No. It wasn’t the Nat Post, but that’s ok. It was from Gallup. Survey of Lebanese opinions. If it’s different now, the opinion of Lebanese people in Lebanon, post that to the contrary.
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These help sum up the article….
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You got comparable but more current, I’d like to see it. Hezbollah isn’t Lebanon’s saviours regardless of how it’s spun, but it is what it is. Hezbollah chose to attack Israel October 8th 2023 and since drawing Lebanon (the Nation) into a fight with Israel in order to support Iran as a proxy supporting Iran’s (not Lebanon’s) interests.


Hezbollah being an Iranian proxy with Iran’s (not Lebanon’s) interests being its focus, has involved Lebanon (the nation) in both the Syrian civil war as well as the whole Hamas/Palestinian goat rodeo not to Lebanon’s benefit.
What wasn’t started last June? Who didn't use blackmail and stupor pak money to fuck over the MAGatts?
 

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Done what? He never wanted Lebanon invaded and still doesn't.

Start paying attention. I don't know who is more clueless, you or Taxslave but you both aren't in the info loop.

Do you Anti-Christs sacrifice lamb and goats to your god or you keep low-key and just swing a chicken over your head then kill it?

The specific ritual is Kaparot (or Kaporos). It involves swinging a live chicken over a person's head to symbolically transfer sins, after which the bird is slaughtered. It is an annual custom typically performed on the eve of Yom Kippur. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Why do you constantly misrepresent what I've said? It's ok, I guess old age does that to one so maybe it's not your fault. ;)
 

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Why do you constantly misrepresent what I've said? It's ok, I guess old age does that to one so maybe it's not your fault. ;)
Did Trump want to attack Iran or want Israel to invade Lebanon?

Yes? No?

Something for you to consider. When you cheapen the lives of innocents, you cheapen your own life. If you want your life to be protected and valued you have to value and protect others.

That my dear is the core of Christianity. I don't see that in you so how can I call you a Christian? The opposite of Christian is Anti-Christ.

Out of the three religions at war only 2 believe in Christ and its the ones who do believe in Christ that you want to murder in support of the one that abhors Christ.

Think about that next time you claim to be Christian.
 

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Well, it’s a Friday again so Trump told reporters it (the 38th-ish announcement of a peace agreement) was "subject to finalisation of documents, which should get done, over the next few days" and that there would "probably" be a signing ceremony in Europe.

Trump had declared the US would strike Iran "very hard" again on Thursday, but later said he was cancelling the strikes because negotiators had "just made a great settlement" with Iran, but Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson Esmail Baghaei said reports of an agreement were "speculative" and "nothing has been finalised".

Iran has insisted that a final decision on an agreement to end the current conflict with the US has not yet been reached, despite President Trump again claiming a deal was likely to be signed imminently.

In the wake of his latest comments the price of Brent crude plunged to about $89 a barrel (£66), down 4.4% on the day because Friday, with stock markets being closed for the coming weekend, etc…

The US leader said he had spoken to leaders in the region, including Gulf allies and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, adding: "The whole Middle East is very happy?”

Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson Baghaei said the majority of the text for the memorandum had already been "finalised" but the US had made "excessive demands" and added "new requests". He also maintained the country would not "depart from its red lines". Iran's key negotiating demands and boundaries include:
  • Nuclear Sovereignty: Refusal to dismantle major nuclear facilities or halt domestic uranium enrichment.
  • Sanctions & Assets: Demands for a permanent suspension of U.S. oil sanctions and the release of billions in frozen Iranian funds.
  • Regional Exclusions: Strict refusal to include its missile program or its support for regional proxy groups on the negotiating agenda.
  • Strait of Hormuz: Insistence that the U.S. naval blockade be lifted and that maritime control of the strait remain under Iranian arrangement.
  • Reconstruction & Withdrawal: Demands for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from areas surrounding Iran and at least $300 billion in reconstruction support.
Speaking to reporters, Trump said: "We have a deal that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, which was the whole purpose of what we had to go through to get this. So, it's a very big thing." Trump also said the Strait of Hormuz would also open "as soon as we have it signed".
So unless the “deal” is full of wish-washy flip-flop language then it doesn’t sound like there is a “deal” but…we’ll find out Monday when the markets open next, etc…
 

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Mr. Trump said Thursday he was confident negotiators could finalize and sign a memorandum of understanding between the countries that would lift the U.S. blockade on Iranian ports and reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
So unless the “deal” is full of wish-washy flip-flop language then it doesn’t sound like there is a “deal” but…we’ll find out Monday when the markets open next, etc…
He said the deal would include strong language that sets the table for limits on Iran’s nuclear program.🤔

The situation remained fluid, and there was global skepticism after several rounds of near-deals and violent flare-ups during the months-old conflict. The countries have been under a so-called ceasefire since April, but all sides have exchanged fire during a thorny peace process mediated by Qatar, Pakistan and other nations.

Mr. Trump said Thursday he was confident negotiators could finalize and sign a memorandum of understanding between the countries that would lift “the U.S. blockade” on Iranian ports and reopen the Strait of Hormuz.🤔
No mention of the Iran side of the Strait, or tollbooths, etc…though?
 

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Did Trump want to attack Iran or want Israel to invade Lebanon?

Yes? No?

Something for you to consider. When you cheapen the lives of innocents, you cheapen your own life. If you want your life to be protected and valued you have to value and protect others.

That my dear is the core of Christianity. I don't see that in you so how can I call you a Christian? The opposite of Christian is Anti-Christ.

Out of the three religions at war only 2 believe in Christ and its the ones who do believe in Christ that you want to murder in support of the one that abhors Christ.

Think about that next time you claim to be Christian.
OMGosh Petros, you really are losing it. It's ok. I understand. We all have our issues.