If Dion steps aside who should replace him and why?

Risus

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See ... there's one who hasn't come to terms with reality yet....

Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone's got one ... and some just are. Rae could only work with what he had. Harris, on the other hand, deliberately went out of his way to screw Ontario.
LOL, if you really want to talk about Ontario getting screwed how about McSquinty and his fiberals?
 

Risus

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May 24, 2006
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Zing!... The mind works fine. It's the body that doesn't co-operate well. You disappoint me. I heard you were a writer - but you can't establish a story line - even open book!... More monkey see monkey doo huh?
Sorry, I'm just tired this evening. And then having to deal with sore losers....
 

lone wolf

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Sorry, I'm just tired this evening. And then having to deal with sore losers....
Personally, I don't think it matters who's in the Prime Minister's chair because the strings are pulled from beyond Parliament anyhow. That's why first-timers don't do well and long-timers end up robbing a piece of the action for themselves.
 

Liberalman

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Brian Tobin would be the best man for the Liberal party.

Brian would leave Harper in the dust.

Brian is retired but with the right incentives Brian could be brought back.

NDP got their present leader Jack Layton the same way.

Jack was a councilor in Toronto city hall and was thinking of running provincially at the most.

National NDP people approached him to take a run for the job and they even went as far as to bring him a chicken in a pot motivate him and the rest is history.

Brian Tobin’s claim to fame is that he was the minister in charge of Fisheries who told the navy to shoot at a Spanish fishing trawler when it entered Canadian waters fishing illegally.

In the past they brought back a former Prime Minister for the job like Trudeau who ran for a third term and the Liberals got an easy majority.

They should ask Jean Chrétien if he would like job.

Jean would take Quebec and Ontario for the majority and he still has the golf balls to do it.
 
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Colpy

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Brian Tobin would be the best man for the Liberal party.

Brian would leave Harper in the dust.

Brian is retired but with the right incentives Brian could be brought back.

NDP got their present leader Jack Layton the same way.

Jack was a councilor in Toronto city hall and was thinking of running provincially at the most.

National NDP people approached him to take a run for the job and they even went as far as to bring him a chicken in a pot motivate him and the rest is history.

Brian Tobin’s claim to fame is that he was the minister in charge of Fisheries who told the navy to shoot at a Spanish fishing trawler when it entered Canadian waters fishing illegally.

In the past they brought back a former Prime Minister for the job like Trudeau who ran for a third term and the Liberals got an easy majority.

They should ask Jean Chrétien if he would like job.

Jean would take Quebec and Ontario for the majority and he still has the golf balls to do it.

Liberalman, Liberalman.......(shakes head)

Brian Tobin is a moron. Full stop.

"If you walked through Brian Tobin's deepest thoughts, you wouldn't get your ankles wet."
Clyde Wells.....definately not a moron :)
 

Colpy

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Michael Ignatief........

The Liberals have pulled too far left. That is the secondary reason for their disasterous loss (after the Green Shift)........Harper has the Canadian-style middle all sewed up.

Ignatief would pull the Libs back to the centre.

Why am I giving the Libs advice????

lol
 

scratch

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Brian Tobin.

Yet.....

Well read...



Former Liberal cabinet minister Brian Tobin appears in studio during CTV's Election2006 coverage.


Tobin won't be running for Liberal leadership

Updated Wed. Feb. 1 2006 6:31 AM ET
CTV.ca News
Another Liberal leadership prospect has dropped out of the early race to replace Paul Martin, with Brian Tobin announcing he will not be putting his name forward.
Tobin, a former federal cabinet minister and premier of Newfoundland, was considered the last strong candidate for the job.
Tobin's announcement came Tuesday.
Former CBC chair Carole Taylor, whose name had been bandied about by some as a possible candidate, also ruled herself out Tuesday.
Taylor admitted some people approached her to consider a leadership run, but the current minister of finance in the Liberal provincial government of Premier Gordon Campbell said she's very happy to be at the centre of decision-making in B.C.
The announcements by Tobin and Taylor follow on the heels of a Monday announcement that Frank McKenna, Canada's envoy to Washington, would also not be running for the position. John Manley, a former deputy prime minister and finance minister, announced his intention not to run last week.
Had they entered, Tobin, McKenna and Manley would have been considered the frontrunners in a broad field that might eventually include Liberal newcomers like Belinda Stronach, Michael Ignatieff and Scott Brison. No one has officially declared their interest yet.
Outgoing Prime Minister Paul Martin triggered a leadership race when he announced his intention to resign as Liberal Party leader as he conceded defeat to the Conservatives' Stephen Harper in last week's federal election.
At Wednesday's Liberal caucus meeting, pundits say outgoing Defence Minister Bill Graham will be named the party's interim leader.
One senior Liberal said the withdrawals are not necessarily a bad thing for the party. Rather, it leaves room for new blood and new life to be breathed into the party.
"I think it's a good thing we're getting people's intentions out," said Steve MacKinnon, national director of the Liberal Party on CTV's Mike Duffy Live. "I think it's a good thing we're having people come forward now and cite their reasons for running or not running. I think what we're seeing is a lot of interest."
Tobin echoed that "new blood" theme in an interview with Canadian Press: "I think it's time for new blood and I think it's time for new players and I think this is an opportunity for the Liberal party to renew itself and, in the process, to heal itself a little bit as well."
Conservative strategist Goldy Hyder suggested candidates are wary of running for the leadership and having to defend the "tarnished" Liberal brand.
"It can't be a good day for them when you keep losing your tier one candidates," said Conservative strategist Goldy Hyder.
"I suggest there is a lack of interest in coming to defend the brand, and that is the real challenge. the brand is tarnished. The brand is not strong enough to form a vigorous opposition."
 

snowles

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I've narrowed my selection down to three to press my constituency worker on voting for, should there be a convention for a new leader: Frank McKenna, Ralph Goodale and Gerard Kennedy (as my dark horse).

I don't think Goodale will run though, since he had the chance last time and declined, and like Dion, he is far too honest and nice a person to get into the heat of a leadership contest. McKenna has the pedigree and the tenacity to steamroll Harper, and his right-of-centre beliefs would work well with PCs and complement the many left-leaning Liberals now in the caucus. He's got a ton of experience, is an excellent debator, isn't from Quebec and is one of the few people who won't be seen as either 'ivory tower' or egghead by voters or Conservative adsters.

Kennedy is interesting in that he has the look, the background and now some experience both federally and provincially (and was pretty successful as Education Minister) to succeed, especially with his 'common-guy' upbringing and his charitible work. I wonder if like Dion though if he has the ruthlessness needed to get into the face of the Conservatives, especially since he's been pretty quiet since the whole leadership convention. Sigh, if only Kennedy had finished in third last time out...

P.S. Aspiring leaders, please do not pose with your shoulders in the air shrugging again, as that didn't go so well the last time. We've now seen how much some Conservatives enjoy using MS Paint... :lol:
 

Machjo

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If Dion steps aside who should replace him and why?

Definitely a card-carrying member of the liberal party. It would seem strange otherwise. And since I'm not, it's absolutely none of my business, especially when I vote for candidates and not parties anyway.