I hate pot smokers!!, there I said it!

lone wolf

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I am only guessing here, but I think I am on safe grounds to think that pot smokers are among the loudest proponents of Green Earth and clean air.

Yet they are ready and willing to put the most vile stink in their lungs.

I hate pot smokers. I also hate nicotine addicts.

You're right.... You're only guessing.
 

Socrates the Greek

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I think the true analysis here is that people, who do not smoke pot, are mad at the ones that do for various and obvious reasons.

To present the lame excuse that pot turns people into retards is so far from the truth, it makes the person saying it stand out as unaware, misinformed, and entranced into bigotry with out any real reward.
 

YukonJack

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El Barto, you examplify what frustration is to a debater who makes the mistake of engaging an idiot in a debate.

I look for no excuse to hate a pot addict. They come into our neighbourhoods and corrupt our kids. They claim special priviledges based on phony medical claims. They have no idea, whatsoever, what will power is or how to use it. They increase my electricity bills by stealing electricity from the grid for their grow ups to support their filthy habit. They would sell their own kids for a dose of crap in their lungs.

So much for pot addicts.

I also hate nicotine addicts, because they ruin my day every time I have to enter or exit a public building. There they are puffing away, throwing their butts on the ground, blowing their poison in the air to insult anyone normal or decent.

What is their excuse in the face of ever increasing public opinion that smoking is wrong and it is the habit of weak-kneed, noodle-spined cowards who are too weak to quit their filthy habit? They claim they can't quit.

CRAP. I smoked for 30 years. From age 15 to age 45.
For reasons I do not need to go into here, I decided to quit smoking. Note the word: DECIDED.

That is what I did. I quit in 1984.

If I could do it, anyone can. Or should be able to.
 

YukonJack

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Response to #41.

lone wolf, your post implies that pot smokers are not the ones who prefer a green earth and clean air.

Let us do a bit of googleing and see who is right.
 

lone wolf

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Response to #41.

lone wolf, your post implies that pot smokers are not the ones who prefer a green earth and clean air.

Let us do a bit of googleing and see who is right.

No ... my post implies that you are guessing. Now I see the attraction between you and Sir Joey .... buffoonery. By all means, do go google. Start with my posts on global warming....
 

YukonJack

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Ok, then lone wolf, I agree, I was only guessing. However I felt comfortable in saying what I said.

I suggested we google a bit to support our opinions; I still feel comfortable saying that most pot smokers are also rabid environmentalists.

As soon as I send this post, I will go googling to support this "guess" of mine. If I am wrong. will be the fiorst to admit it.

As far as SirJosephPorter is concerned, I am through with him, I will NEVER EVER AGAIN respond to any of his posts, as I made it clear on another thread.

I would rather be a buffoon than a dishonest liar.
 

lone wolf

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Ok, then lone wolf, I agree, I was only guessing. However I felt comfortable in saying what I said.

I suggested we google a bit to support our opinions; I still feel comfortable saying that most pot smokers are also rabid environmentalists.

As soon as I send this post, I will go googling to support this "guess" of mine. If I am wrong. will be the fiorst to admit it.

As far as SirJosephPorter is concerned, I am through with him, I will NEVER EVER AGAIN respond to any of his posts, as I made it clear on another thread.

I would rather be a buffoon than a dishonest liar.

While you're at it, you might want to use the keywords six-pack, strangulation, litter. No doubt some pot smokers are environmentalists. Some may even be quite rabid about it. I wonder how many drunks claim to be gifts to the planet.
 

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Good evening to you talloola, I agree that pot should not be smoked on the side walk if it bothers the pedestrians, but lets face it with out any bias, there are 10s of thousands of responsible career people who enjoy the method of relaxation by smoking pot.

As we have seen no one who has smoked a j has gone out in public making fools of them self’s or the news every night “A MAN SMOKED A J AND STARTED PULLING THE WINGS OF BATTERFLYES” This sort of thing doesn’t happen with pot smokers, but drunks have done some very bad things under the influence of alcohol.

I know she is not condoning alcohol on her thread, but the level of bias against pot stinks worst then the pot one person smokes.

When you have such a vast segment of the population using the stuff, what is that indicate?
Quite simply, it states that humans have always gone through an evolutionary stage in regards to methods of amusement, methods of indulgence, and with regards to indulgence we witness that more and more people resort to the recreational use of pot more then ever in the past.
That is why pot revenues in BC are in the BILLIONS, BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG MARKET which is not going to shrink but if anything it is growing very rapidly.


The problem we see is that the government and many of the closed minded people are missing out on revenues that can help MEDICARE FOR ALL BABY BOMERS. Bias and tribal thinking is one thing, but reasonable and fair understanding of environments around us is vital to the common good.

Of course, those who are helped medically, should have access, but it should
be prescribed like any other medication, and I wonder how many are getting
pot, with the story of medical needs, when there are none.
No need to compare pot use to alchohol, or other drugs, each drug has it's
own story. How would pot be if it was legalized, wide use all over the country?
Would we see thousands of mellow, lazy, smelly doods, who have no
ambition, just the need to 'relax'. I have no knowledge of pot, or any other
drug, I come from the era where alchohol was the only ruination of lives, as
far as a drug goes, and I've never needed to smoke pot, saw the results of
alchohol all throughout my childhood, so I'm having a happy life on my own
merits, without the help or hindrance of any 'substance abuse', and I'll keep
it that way. Those who smoke pot, or do whatever they do, don't have a happier
life than I do, and if they are trying to escape 'real' life, that's fine, but I don't want to escape real life, and It doesn't cost me anything, and I can use the garden space for real food.
 

jimmoyer

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Marijuana May Trigger Schizophrenia

By Rick Nauert, Ph.D. Senior News Editor
Reviewed by John M. Grohol, Psy.D. on July 8, 2008
A new report finds alterations in a molecular brain pathway activated by marijuana may contribute to the cognitive symptoms of schizophrenia.
Heavy marijuana use, particularly in adolescence, appears to be associated with an increased risk for the later development of schizophrenia, and the course of illness is worse for people with schizophrenia who use marijuana,” said David A. Lewis, M.D., corresponding author of the study.
Expression of the cannabinoid 1 receptor (CB1R), the site of action of the main chemical ingredient of marijuana, is significantly reduced in the brains of individuals with schizophrenia. Activation of CB1R impairs signaling by gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), an important neurotransmitter essential for core cognitive processes such as working memory.
The use of marijuana in individuals with schizophrenia appears to worsen this deficit in GABA synthesis.
Since reduced GABA is known to be present in schizophrenia, these findings suggest possible new drug targets that could help to improve function in people with the mental illness, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine researchers report in the July issue of Archives of General Psychiatry.
“We wanted to understand the biological mechanisms that could explain these observations, and with this study, I believe that we can narrow down at least part of the ‘why’ to CB1R, the receptor for both tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the main psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, and the brains own cannabinoid chemical messengers.”
“These findings may provide insight into the biological basis of why cannabis use worsens schizophrenia, and, as a result, identify a novel target for new drug development that could improve treatments available for schizophrenia,” said Dr. Lewis.
Source: University of Pittsburgh Schools of the Health Sciences
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jimmoyer

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This report cannot be trivialized by referencing Reefer Madness.
I remember this was headlines in England for awhile.

I'd say that just reading about this does not mean you have to get rid of any of your pre-conceived notions, or of your anecdotal experiences.

Just a small caveat thrown in the volatile mix of believers and non-believers.
 

lone wolf

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This report cannot be trivialized by referencing Reefer Madness.
I remember this was headlines in England for awhile.

I'd say that just reading about this does not mean you have to get rid of any of your pre-conceived notions, or of your anecdotal experiences.

Just a small caveat thrown in the volatile mix of believers and non-believers.

When you consider other sources speak of cannabis as a counter for schizophrenia ... or for every "evil" there is a good, it would seem whichever truth one chooses to believe ... or whoever paid for the study....

I know my experience with it ... as much as I know the destructive nature of doctor-prescribed junk. No theories. No studies ... just a reality I lived and survived.
 

El Barto

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El Barto, you examplify what frustration is to a debater who makes the mistake of engaging an idiot in a debate.

I look for no excuse to hate a pot addict. They come into our neighbourhoods and corrupt our kids. They claim special priviledges based on phony medical claims. They have no idea, whatsoever, what will power is or how to use it. They increase my electricity bills by stealing electricity from the grid for their grow ups to support their filthy habit. They would sell their own kids for a dose of crap in their lungs.

So much for pot addicts.

I also hate nicotine addicts, because they ruin my day every time I have to enter or exit a public building. There they are puffing away, throwing their butts on the ground, blowing their poison in the air to insult anyone normal or decent.

What is their excuse in the face of ever increasing public opinion that smoking is wrong and it is the habit of weak-kneed, noodle-spined cowards who are too weak to quit their filthy habit? They claim they can't quit.

CRAP. I smoked for 30 years. From age 15 to age 45.
For reasons I do not need to go into here, I decided to quit smoking. Note the word: DECIDED.

That is what I did. I quit in 1984.

If I could do it, anyone can. Or should be able to.
You paint with a wide brush. Some pot smokers just stay in their corner and never bother anyone about it. Some of them are proffessionals in life. Your problem are with greedy dealers. Totally different. Beside my comment wasn't directed at you before as it was directed to everyone.
 

mabudon

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The criminal element would have a hard time benefitting from MJ if it weren't demonized and made illegal. As long as there's people willing to be deathly afraid of a plant that others enjoy, it'll be profitable to produce it.

I have always thought that you had to smoke or otherwise ingest the stuff to make you paranoid but it would seem it affects the rabid "anti" crowd FAR worse than it does most actual users
 

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I have always thought that you had to smoke or otherwise ingest the stuff to make you paranoid but it would seem it affects the rabid "anti" crowd FAR worse than it does most actual users

I think this is why they detest the smell so much. :lol:
 
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I've seen quite a few articles like the one Jim posted, and they are compelling enough that I will be warning my kids about the dangers of ingesting drugs (of any sort, alcohol and birth control included) while the brain is still developing as a teen. We really screw enough with developing chemical pathways as it is. Nothing we put into our bodies is completely without effect.
 

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Except for medical usage.

They smell , they act retarded, they support drug dealers!
Immature losers!

I know intelligent pot smokers who don't smell and possibly grow their own, so you could be wrong on three counts. I don't smoke pot and probably never will, but that doesn't prevent me from minding my own business. So what is it you do that is detrimental to the human race and the planet? (besides stirring up hatred)
 

lone wolf

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I've seen quite a few articles like the one Jim posted, and they are compelling enough that I will be warning my kids about the dangers of ingesting drugs (of any sort, alcohol and birth control included) while the brain is still developing as a teen. We really screw enough with developing chemical pathways as it is. Nothing we put into our bodies is completely without effect.

The problem with kids is the more you tell them no, the more interesting it becomes. All you can really do is pass on the warning and hope for the best. The reality is, like nicotine, caffine, booze, gas fumes, glue, it's a toxin. For every group who suffer no adverse affect, there will always be one who does.
 

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Sublime is probably a victim of the D.A.R.E. program of false information dissemination to school kids. Some adults tend to think kids are empty vessels to be filled but in fact it is the other way around. Children are born genius and we dumb them down to our level. It's been going on for so long that people don't realize that that is what's going on.

Children are not stupid, so when we and the police lie to them about pot, they rightly think we are lying to them about all drugs. It is near impossible to get unbiased information about anything these days and kids being who they are will experiment with all sorts of stuff because that is how they learn about life. There is no way to protect them and trying to usually has the opposite effect.

Most people who have negative opinions about pot got those opinions from the media or peers and rarely from personal experience. So I tend to write them off as ignorant. Although I stopped smoking over thirty years ago simply because I didn't enjoy it any more, I would rather pot be the drug of choice for those who feel a need to get altered consciousness than any other drug out there. It is the least harmful and even has some benefits. Everything else has almost no benefits with lots of harm.