How will Pope Benedict be Received in Britain?

[Spade]

Especially in an increasingly secular society.

Benedict to step into buzz saw of dissent during upcoming UK visit | National Catholic Reporter

From the article; quote:

"Secularism is famously Benedict’s bête noire, and he’s coming to the right place to engage it. A recent national study found that in a household in Great Britain today where both parents are actively religious, a child stands only a 47 percent chance of becoming religious. In a household where just one parent is religious, those odds drop by a factor of half, to 24 percent, and where neither parent is religious, the odds that a child will become religious plummets to a statistically insignificant 3 percent.

"David Voas of the University of Manchester draws the obvious conclusion: 'In Britain, institutional religion now has a half-life of one generation.'"

Observations?

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Great news. Britains are protesting paying for the pope's visit, but they have to because he's coming as head of state. He might be charged with abetting pedophiles if he came as just a pope.

The sooner religion vanishes the better.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Given the recent series of scandals in the Catholic Church, perhaps he should pay a visit to Belgium; or better yet, Brazil - the religious horror show in that country is just starting.

 

[petros]

He must have a pretty good reason for going to visit an island of inbred hillbillies.

Which is worse? Pedophilia or inbreeding?

 

[Spade]

He must have a pretty good reason for going to visit an island of inbred hillbillies.

Which is worse? Pedophilia or inbreeding?

Britain has maintained genetic diversity by welcoming wave after wave of conquers: the Roman legions from all over the empire, the Angles, the Saxons, The Jutes, the Scandinavians, the Norman French, et cetera.

 

[Stretch]

Caution - David Icke Website

 

[Spade]

CBC News - World - Pope holds open-air mass in Glasgow

Is the Queen monarch by divine right?
Or, is Benedict the pope by divine right?

 

[wulfie68]

Well, Her Majesty's approach seems to be more measured across the board, than the extremely conservative (and regressive) Pope Benedict, so if its up to us, I'd support Queen Elizabeth II. I wonder if this is how so many wars in the Reformation got started...

 

[Spade]

Quite possibly! A religion based on the philosophy of "love thy neighbour" -pacifism and forgiveness, charity and being non-judgmental- boiled into wars of hatred and recrimination over nuances of theology.

 

[Bar Sinister]

He must have a pretty good reason for going to visit an island of inbred hillbillies.

Which is worse? Pedophilia or inbreeding?

Perhaps you could tell us. But I hope your knowledge of those subjects exceeds your knowledge of Britain.

 

[petros]

Perhaps you could tell us. But I hope your knowledge of those subjects exceeds your knowledge of Britain.

They aren't the EU's hillbillies?

 

[damngrumpy]

The Pope knew what was going on in the Church and the world just looks the other way. Religion has been running the world for centuries, and hopefully someday it
will come to an end. I hope the whole world becomes secular. I mean we have the
Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims all living from books that were written centuries
ago. The leaders of the faiths, mentioned were either high on the natural drugs that
made for visions or they were the ego maniacs of the time. Maybe they are cut from
the same kooky cloth that dysfunctional Sarah Palin came from, not that she is divine
but nuts. Hail to secularism. I will know the world is in trouble when I see placard
waving crowds shouting death to infidels in the streets of London.
The Pope should be sent packing from every country in the world, and the Church should be condemned until the clean up the mess and enact measures to ensure the
types of mass crimes do not continue.

 

[Spade]

Newman: the 'sense' and 'consent' of the faithful | National Catholic Reporter

From the article; quote:

"Belief in Christ’s divinity was maintained during the greater part of the 4th century, wrote Newman, 'not by the unswerving firmness of the Holy See, Councils or Bishops, but … by the consensus fidelium [consent of the faithful]. On the one hand, I say, there was a temporary suspense of the functions of the Ecclesia docens [the teaching church]. The body of the Bishops failed in their confession of the faith. … There were untrustworthy Councils, unfaithful Bishops; there was weakness, fear of consequences, misguidance, delusion, hallucination, endless, hopeless, extending itself into nearly every corner of the Catholic church.'

"To explain how such a thing happened (and could happen again), Newman relied on his own, well developed ideas about the 'sense' and the 'consent' of the faithful. Church teaching, he argued cannot be a top-down enterprise, a one-way street. It must be the result of a conspiratio, literally a breathing together of the faithful and the bishops. It is the first responsibility of the episcopacy and papacy, he said, to listen carefully before teaching doctrine."

 

[Cliffy]

The church hierarchy is as disconnected from the faithful as politicians are from the average voter, particularly this present pope and his entourage. They seem to be doing the same things as the Muslim clerics who want to return to the glory days of the 14th century.

 

[Spade]

CBC.ca Video Breakout Player

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

CBC News - World - Pope holds open-air mass in Glasgow

Is the Queen monarch by divine right?
Or, is Benedict the pope by divine right?

Yes, part of the confusing part of European history as they both feel that a fake feeling they have called "G/god" justitifies whatever they do.

Europeans would appreciate it mucho if Canada would simply tax all churches like any other corporation to erode their resources as it would gradually put them out of business. We lack this monarchial/pope hoodoo-voodoo in our history and we ought to bureaucratically diminish it ASAP.

 

[Spade]

More Pope dope!

CBC News - World - Pope apologizes to abuse victims

From the article; quote:

"Polls have indicated widespread dissatisfaction in Britain with the way Benedict has handled the (sexual abuse) crisis, with Catholics nearly as critical of him as the rest of the population."

 

[JLM]

More Pope dope!

CBC News - World - Pope apologizes to abuse victims

From the article; quote:

"Polls have indicated widespread dissatisfaction in Britain with the way Benedict has handled the (sexual abuse) crisis, with Catholics nearly as critical of him as the rest of the population."

I admit to being far from knowledgable on the matter, but methinks Ben is a Johnny come lately on the scene and sort of waded into a big mess that started long before his time that perhaps his predecessors didn't adequately deal with. JMHO. :smile:

 

[taxslave]

I bet there are a lot of nervous little boys walking around with corks in their butts.

 

[JLM]

I bet there are a lot of nervous little boys walking around with corks in their butts.

I'd be very surprised if there are ANY parents today who are sending their kids to a Catholic boarding school.