How the GW myth is perpetuated

[Bar Sinister]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Yes, it is.
Not necessarily that anyone produces paper to a scientific committee and he must then be true in his opinion. It is only his or their idea.

While what I am telling others is not my idea; it is the word of one who did not graduate at any school, and yet - in spite of that some dislike it - it is logical and is true.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#Why_the_planet_is_near_or_far_from_the_s

quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#Why_the_planet_is_near_or_far_from_the_s

I suppose we could say no it isn't and yes it is forever. The fact is that the current warming trend has nothing to do with the Earth's orbit. And why are you using a post from a religious site in your post? Your post belongs in the spirituality section, not in the science section.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

I suppose we could say no it isn't and yes it is forever. The fact is that the current warming trend has nothing to do with the Earth's orbit. And why are you using a post from a religious site in your post? Your post belongs in the spirituality section, not in the science section.

We're still thawing out from the last ice advance 25,000+- years ago as we have been cyclically for the last several hundred thousand years and I'm not so sure that the Earth's orbit is not involved.

Whether human activity is accelerating the process is a different question. Fact is, if there were no humans on earth, it appears that it would be warming up anyway, right now. We may be "putting the petal to the metal", so to speak.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

We're still thawing out from the last ice advance 25,000+- years ago as we have been cyclically for the last several hundred thousand years and I'm not so sure that the Earth's orbit is not involved.

Whether human activity is accelerating the process is a different question. Fact is, if there were no humans on earth, it appears that it would be warming up anyway, right now. We may be "putting the petal to the metal", so to speak.

Actually we are due for another ice age. In the 1970s there was speculation that we would be facing gradual global cooling by now, instead we've gone the other way.

 

[Groot]

 

[JLM]

I think Trump has it figured out!

 

[Johnnny]

Carbon tax and Cap/Trade are scams meant to steal your money.

The regular joes are expected to make sacrifices, pay more taxes and change their lifestyles in a manner that borders austerity.

Yet our leaders do no such thing and if anything use as much carbon as possible to go to those fancy AGW meetings.

Hypocrites...

 

[darkbeaver]

Death vally and Shahara desert seas of flowers, Austrailia as well. Floods in Suadi Arabia.

 

[Walter]

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[Wake]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

I suppose we could say no it isn't and yes it is forever. The fact is that the current warming trend has nothing to do with the Earth's orbit. And why are you using a post from a religious site in your post? Your post belongs in the spirituality section, not in the science section.

I tripped over some information while things over - it appears that ice core samples from several locations with stable ice packs show that warm periods appear to occur at the same time that there is large amounts of volcanic dust in the upper atmosphere.

We're still thawing out from the last ice advance 25,000+- years ago as we have been cyclically for the last several hundred thousand years and I'm not so sure that the Earth's orbit is not involved.

Whether human activity is accelerating the process is a different question. Fact is, if there were no humans on earth, it appears that it would be warming up anyway, right now. We may be "putting the petal to the metal", so to speak.

It appears that the landmasses are retaining approximately 0.6 Wm^2 and that this is likely caused by warming up from the last little ice age.

Death vally and Shahara desert seas of flowers, Austrailia as well. Floods in Suadi Arabia.

While this is the case we cannot tell what it means if anything. We are due for the warming period to end. But this could just as well be nothing more than a meteorological oddity. This is part of the trouble with discussing this mostly with young people. They haven't any experience and it is really easy to convince them that things they've never seen are unusual and caused by adults and not them.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

I tripped over some information while things over - it appears that ice core samples from several locations with stable ice packs show that warm periods appear to occur at the same time that there is large amounts of volcanic dust in the upper atmosphere.

Except for one important fact, and that is in the past volcanic action has resulted in global cooling - look up what happened the year after Mount Pinatubo and Krakatoa erupted.

 

[Wake]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Except for one important fact, and that is in the past volcanic action has resulted in global cooling - look up what happened the year after Mount Pinatubo and Krakatoa erupted.

Well, if you read that report it claims that the effects of Krakatoa "lasted long into the 20th century. The so-called global warming started in 1886. After my experiences working at LLL I don't have a particularly good opinion of anything coming out of there.

 

[petros]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

except for one important fact, and that is in the past volcanic action has resulted in global cooling - look up what happened the year after mount pinatubo and krakatoa erupted.

so2.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

so2.

Yes, it causes acid rain, so what?

Well, if you read that report it claims that the effects of Krakatoa "lasted long into the 20th century. The so-called global warming started in 1886. After my experiences working at LLL I don't have a particularly good opinion of anything coming out of there.

It rather shoots holes in the volcano theory though doesn't it?

 

[Wake]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Yes, it causes acid rain, so what?



It rather shoots holes in the volcano theory though doesn't it?

Why no it doesn't. You say that it cooled the year of the eruption due I assume to dust in the air. However the dust remained in the air and the heat that did get through took longer to get back out. And we had warming.

Don't you think there can be immediate and long term effects that are different for the same cause?

 

[petros]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Yes, it causes acid rain, so what?



It rather shoots holes in the volcano theory though doesn't it?

Just as the global cooling caused by a large volcanic eruption ends after its stratospheric Sulfur Dioxide (SO2) aerosols have settled out of the atmosphere, warming will naturally occur when anthropogenic SO2 aerosols are likewise removed from the troposphere.

Have SO2 emissions been cut over the past 45 years?

 

[Musky]

The globe is cooling....the end.

The evidence is everywhere.

 

[petros]

Are you jealous it's cooling?

 

[Musky]

Are you jealous it's cooling?

Is it?

 

[petros]

Yuuuuup.

 

[Musky]

Okay, then I guess it is.