How the GW myth is perpetuated

[darkbeaver]

Comment: Water ice is a highly unlikely answer to the puzzle. Once again, there is an electrical possibility. Mercury is likely to have a weak dipolar magnetic field. Mercury, like all planets is connected to the solar circuit. That connection follows the magnetic field down to the poles. Any remanent magnetism of the electrical craters at the pole will tend to focus the plasma discharges upon those craters. In the near vacuum at Mercury’s surface, electrons will strike the surface and form more dense plasma. If sufficiently dense, the plasma layer acts like a metallic surface coating and returns a strong radar echo. I have addressed this issue in the “The Shiny Mountains Of Venus.” If this view is correct the strong radar returns may change abruptly or flicker as the auroral-type discharge moves about.

Astronomical Myths of Mercury & the Sun | holoscience.com | The Electric Universe

 

[Curious Cdn]

Unfortunately you can't call weather events "climate" unless they continue for 10 years or more. This is what upsets the True Believers so much about the weather hiatus for the last 19 years. And even NOW it heating could continue but I think that this warm period is over the hump and will begin dropping. Imagine the tears in the eyes of that happens.


Yeah, average Canadian temperatures about 3 degrees warming that normal couldn't possibly be because the La Nina has caused the cold weather to slide further south where temperatures are below normal.

Global Temperature Trends Since 2500 B.C.

It sure must hurt you to be wrong so often.

It has become steadily warmer, greener, winter by winter over my six decades. That's a hell of a long La Nina event.

 

[Wake]

I have snow on my dead Metro Vancouver lawn.

Is it possible warm and cold can displace each other?

Why doesn’t Mercury have an atmosphere but Venus and Earth do? Then Mars barely does but rest of the planets are nothing but dense atmospheres. What gives?

An Earth Scientist asks....

There are two reasons that Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere - For one it does have a slight atmosphere. But it is composed mostly of hydrogen and helium from the solar wind itself which blows most of the rest of any gases away. so it is self-replenishing and not a real atmosphere. Also the heat of the planet in direct sunlight can cause chemical reactions that fuse these gases into heavier solids as part of the planet's rocky surface. The STRONG solar radiation literally blows most of the atmosphere away.

On Venus the planet itself has no magnetic barrier as many planets have but the force of the solar wind at that distance makes one by electrically charging the entire upper atmosphere (the ionosphere) on the sunward side. This deflects the greater percentage of the solar wind that would be so damaging to the thick atmosphere.

A magnetic shield is no guarantee of a protected atmosphere. Earth happens to be at the sweet spot where the magnetosphere can protect us from the worst of the solar wind. beyond us the solar wind drops logarithmically and so this isn't a problem for other planets that it is for the inner three. Whereas on Mercury the violence of the solar wind simply blows through the magnetic field. There are some effects from this field but they are minor in relation to the strengh of the solar wind at that distance.

One problem - where in the hell did such a dense atmosphere get on Venus to begin with? It appears that Venus was NEVER in the "water zone" and never had any significant amount of water. While the early life of Venus and Earth were probably near the same, the Earth bound up the majority of it's heavy CO2 into the water in it's oceans. And after life appeared it custom built an atmosphere made for life.

While we can observe our planets it is always chancy to make any stupid comments like "Venus's atmosphere of CO2 caused run-away solar heating". The fact is that ANY gas would have done so because it would have slowed the response to Plank's Law.

It has become steadily warmer, greener, winter by winter over my six decades. That's a hell of a long La Nina event.

I should have known that you were encountering Alzheimer's.

 

[pgs]

Sooner or later all of you will become familiar with the climate maker, electricity.

Actually sooner or latter we will all become part of the climate matter , worms .

It has become steadily warmer, greener, winter by winter over my six decades. That's a hell of a long La Nina event.

Has it or do you have selective memory ?

There are two reasons that Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere - For one it does have a slight atmosphere. But it is composed mostly of hydrogen and helium from the solar wind itself which blows most of the rest of any gases away. so it is self-replenishing and not a real atmosphere. Also the heat of the planet in direct sunlight can cause chemical reactions that fuse these gases into heavier solids as part of the planet's rocky surface. The STRONG solar radiation literally blows most of the atmosphere away.

On Venus the planet itself has no magnetic barrier as many planets have but the force of the solar wind at that distance makes one by electrically charging the entire upper atmosphere (the ionosphere) on the sunward side. This deflects the greater percentage of the solar wind that would be so damaging to the thick atmosphere.

A magnetic shield is no guarantee of a protected atmosphere. Earth happens to be at the sweet spot where the magnetosphere can protect us from the worst of the solar wind. beyond us the solar wind drops logarithmically and so this isn't a problem for other planets that it is for the inner three. Whereas on Mercury the violence of the solar wind simply blows through the magnetic field. There are some effects from this field but they are minor in relation to the strengh of the solar wind at that distance.

One problem - where in the hell did such a dense atmosphere get on Venus to begin with? It appears that Venus was NEVER in the "water zone" and never had any significant amount of water. While the early life of Venus and Earth were probably near the same, the Earth bound up the majority of it's heavy CO2 into the water in it's oceans. And after life appeared it custom built an atmosphere made for life.

While we can observe our planets it is always chancy to make any stupid comments like "Venus's atmosphere of CO2 caused run-away solar heating". The fact is that ANY gas would have done so because it would have slowed the response to Plank's Law.


I should have known that you were encountering Alzheimer's.

Please don't you 2 get into a huge debate on a subject you agree on . I really have no time and interest for Plank studies .

 

[Curious Cdn]

There are two reasons that Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere - For one it does have a slight atmosphere. But it is composed mostly of hydrogen and helium from the solar wind itself which blows most of the rest of any gases away. so it is self-replenishing and not a real atmosphere. Also the heat of the planet in direct sunlight can cause chemical reactions that fuse these gases into heavier solids as part of the planet's rocky surface. The STRONG solar radiation literally blows most of the atmosphere away.

On Venus the planet itself has no magnetic barrier as many planets have but the force of the solar wind at that distance makes one by electrically charging the entire upper atmosphere (the ionosphere) on the sunward side. This deflects the greater percentage of the solar wind that would be so damaging to the thick atmosphere.

A magnetic shield is no guarantee of a protected atmosphere. Earth happens to be at the sweet spot where the magnetosphere can protect us from the worst of the solar wind. beyond us the solar wind drops logarithmically and so this isn't a problem for other planets that it is for the inner three. Whereas on Mercury the violence of the solar wind simply blows through the magnetic field. There are some effects from this field but they are minor in relation to the strengh of the solar wind at that distance.

One problem - where in the hell did such a dense atmosphere get on Venus to begin with? It appears that Venus was NEVER in the "water zone" and never had any significant amount of water. While the early life of Venus and Earth were probably near the same, the Earth bound up the majority of it's heavy CO2 into the water in it's oceans. And after life appeared it custom built an atmosphere made for life.

While we can observe our planets it is always chancy to make any stupid comments like "Venus's atmosphere of CO2 caused run-away solar heating". The fact is that ANY gas would have done so because it would have slowed the response to Plank's Law.


I should have known that you were encountering Alzheimer's.

Where is it that you live again, Yank?

Tayeksus?

How many "white winters" do you get down there? (...and I'm not referring to putting a hood on your head like dad used to do)

 

[mentalfloss]

Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Next Thursday, Gore will be speaking to Terri White, editor-in-chief of Empire magazine, about the follow up to 2006’s An Inconvenient Truth, which won Oscars for Best Documentary and Best Original Song.

The new film premiered in January at the Sundance Film Festival in Utah and will get a wide release this summer. It follows Gore as he continues his campaign to build a sustainable future.

Brexit was caused in part by climate change, former US Vice-President Al Gore has said, warning that extreme weather is creating political instability “the world will find extremely difficult to deal with”.

Mr Gore, speaking at an event in which he previewed a sequel to his landmark 2006 documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, said the “principal” cause of the Syrian Civil War had been the worst drought in 900 years, which forced 1.5 million people to move from the countryside to the cities.

There they met a similar number of Iraqis who had fled the conflict in their homeland, creating powder keg conditions that Syrian government officials privately feared would explode.


Read more at Al Gore: Climate change helped cause Brexit
Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Wait. . . Al Gore's still alive?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

More money needs to be made ...

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Sort of.

The costs of doing nothing are much higher than transitioning to renewables, so yes, in a way we can 'make money' by making that transition faster.

 

[darkbeaver]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Next Thursday, Gore will be speaking to Terri White, editor-in-chief of Empire magazine, about the follow up to 2006’s An Inconvenient Truth, which won Oscars for Best Documentary and Best Original Song.

The new film premiered in January at the Sundance Film Festival in Utah and will get a wide release this summer. It follows Gore as he continues his campaign to build a sustainable future.

Brexit was caused in part by climate change, former US Vice-President Al Gore has said, warning that extreme weather is creating political instability “the world will find extremely difficult to deal with”.

Mr Gore, speaking at an event in which he previewed a sequel to his landmark 2006 documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, said the “principal” cause of the Syrian Civil War had been the worst drought in 900 years, which forced 1.5 million people to move from the countryside to the cities.

There they met a similar number of Iraqis who had fled the conflict in their homeland, creating powder keg conditions that Syrian government officials privately feared would explode.

After years of carefull cutting edge analysis I think I have discovered the root of your intellectual afflictions. It is quite plain that you still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. I reccomend a full suite of exorcisms complete with smoke and fluttering fairies.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Sort of.

The costs of doing nothing are much higher than transitioning to renewables, so yes, in a way we can 'make money' by making that transition faster.

I was referring to Al Gores personal bank account which has done quite well.

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

As Donald Trump would say, that makes him smart.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

As Donald Trump would say, that makes him smart.

I never said he was anything but. He is a genius. He realized that brainless lemmings could be programmed and that could make him rich.

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Deniers can't be helped, I guess.

 

[Danbones]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Another movie he can't legally show as documentary
jeeze, sell the seaside real estate dimwatt

the docks are going to go dry

 

[selfsame]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Whether Al Gore agrees or refuses, the Global Warmth is there; but the primary factor is that the earth has become somewhat nearer to the sun than it had been before;

while other factors like the greenhouse effect are only secondary in this GW.

It may also be more logical than the increased CO2 and methane .. which relative to the huge earth volume may not be of such important thing !?

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#The_Earth_Approaches_the_Sun_
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#The_Earth_Approaches_the_Sun_

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

The Trump Administration’s War on Science

 

[Bar Sinister]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Whether Al Gore agrees or refuses, the Global Warmth is there; but the primary factor is that the earth has become somewhat nearer to the sun than it had been before;

No it isn't.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17228-why-is-the-earth-moving-away-from-the-sun/

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Al Gore has sold a lot of Kool Aid.

 

[selfsame]

Re: Still inconvenient: Al Gore returns with second climate change film

Whether Al Gore agrees or refuses, the Global Warmth is there; but the primary factor is that the earth has become somewhat nearer to the sun than it had been before;

No it isn't.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17228-why-is-the-earth-moving-away-from-the-sun/

Yes, it is.
Not necessarily that anyone produces paper to a scientific committee and he must then be true in his opinion. It is only his or their idea.

While what I am telling others is not my idea; it is the word of one who did not graduate at any school, and yet - in spite of that some dislike it - it is logical and is true.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#Why_the_planet_is_near_or_far_from_the_s

quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#Why_the_planet_is_near_or_far_from_the_s