How much does right-wing rhetoric contribute to right-wing terrorism?

EagleSmack

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Case in point. Neither the Dems or the Republicans are KKK, but some will go to great lengths to tar the other.

The (newly) late Sen. Byrd

Senate Democrat and former Exalted Cyclops of the KKK



It broke down when George Bush lost his marbles. Now we're dealing with the aftermath of that idiot.





Nothing to see here...move along
 

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neither party is but individual members are such as David Duke who left the DP and is now GOP

Again case in point. Scoring shots. The Bird vs Duke argument does not reflect either party, but I will concede that there are a racial elements in both.
 

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After only one day Fox News has already eliminated coverage of the Tea Party Cop Killers in Las Vegas who went on a murderous rampage Sunday. On Monday, Fox's primetime programs (Bill O'Reilly, Megyn Kelly, and Sean Hannity) were silent on the subject except for four sentences on Kelly's show.


On Tuesday morning's edition of Fox & Friends, the curvy couch potatoes failed to mention Jerad Miller and his wife Amanda. Later, on Happening Now, Fox ignored the story entirely. Outnumbered also declined to report on the Millers, despite having guest co-host "doctor" Keith Ablow who has psychoanalyzed every criminal, politician, and other public figure this century (without ever examining, or even meeting, any of them).


Fox has replaced the Sunday massacre with older stories about the Bergdahl prisoner swap, the Veterans Administration, and Hillary Clinton's book release and presidential aspirations. The producers and editors at Fox News have never been shy about reporting acts of alleged terrorism, even before any evidence has emerged. But for this story they have refused to even refer to the crime as terrorism.


There are some obvious reasons why Fox would skew their reporting and ultimately remove this story from their news coverage. And all of them represent biases that are a long-standing part of what can be called the Fox News Creed: Racism, Guns, Anti-Government, and Tea Party.


First of all, the perpetrators are not who Fox's racist producers typically profile as terrorists. Rather than being brown-skinned, Muslim, foreigners, the Millers are white Christians from Indiana. So not only would it run counter to Fox's philosophy to implicate the Millers in terrorism, it would offend their 90% white, right-wing audience.


Secondly, the issue raises concerns about access to dangerous firearms. The NRA constituency at Fox is loathe to focus on such events that make the public uncomfortable with the wild west society that is favored by the gun fetishists and right-wingers who program and watch the network. Fox avoids or downplays most stories about gun violence, but jumps on any report that they can frame as an Obama attempt to repeal the Second Amendment.


Thirdly, Fox is well known for promoting some of the very same political ideologies as the Millers. They have featured guests who advocate secession from the United States, as well as armed resistance to federal law and authorities. An example of that is the recent Cliven Bundy affair where Jerad Miller just happened to show up threatening to use "the language of violence" against representatives of the Bureau of Land Management. Fox has also hyped Republican leaders, like Texas governor Rick Perry, who have made public statements that come just short of declaring secession.


Finally, the Millers' association with Tea Party groups is something that Fox will work vigorously to excise from the public discourse. The Millers were supporters of the biggest Koch brothers-bankrolled Tea Party organizations (Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks), and openly espoused their anti-government views. It was only a matter of time before people who came to rallies with signs that said "We Came Unarmed - THIS TIME," would keep their promise of violence. Of course, Fox News also supports the same groups and views, and has been instrumental in creating and promoting the Tea Party. In fact, there would be no Tea Party without Fox News. Consequently, Fox is not going to risk alienating such a critical part of their audience.




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Is the fact that they are bat**** insane not good enough for you?

No because that would mean that all btes hit insane crazies would have to be Tea Partiers. Ican think of quite a few who fit that discription but would never belong to the Tea Party. David Suzuki and Paul Watson come to mind.
 

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You don't have to claim ownership of crazies. I'm a socialist, but the difference between a terrorist with socialist motivations and myself is far greater than the difference between me and the average Tory voter. We might disagree on say welfare or education policy, but we tend to agree on being against mobs of gunmen murdering innocent people. That's a more important belief.

But it's also important to consider what an ideology actually expresses. You can't go around using rhetoric that incites violence and then claim violent people on your side are not your own.
 

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You don't have to claim ownership of crazies. I'm a socialist, but the difference between a terrorist with socialist motivations and myself is far greater than the difference between me and the average Tory voter. We might disagree on say welfare or education policy, but we tend to agree on being against mobs of gunmen murdering innocent people. That's a more important belief.

But it's also important to consider what an ideology actually expresses. You can't go around using rhetoric that incites violence and then claim violent people on your side are not your own.

lol... wall meet face

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Notice how the word progressive is in scare quotes? Even the idiot who made this video knows I'm right and you missed the point.


Oh yeah... Oh I missed the point.


Scare quotes? Seriously?

And he's an idiot... why because he showed how vile and hateful and racist the "liberals" ( Did I scare you?) are.

Lynching black people, torture, violence... yes indeed. That's some rhetoric isn't it?

Sucks when a plan fails doesn't it?
 

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Oh yeah... Oh I missed the point.


Scare quotes? Seriously?

And he's an idiot... why because he showed how vile and hateful and racist the "liberals" ( Did I scare you?) are.

Lynching black people, torture, violence... yes indeed. That's some rhetoric isn't it?

Sucks when a plan fails doesn't it?

I have no desire to respond to you if can't understand the point I made or are incapable for typing anything other than the random **** that pops in your head.



I said that a violent left-wing person is further away from me than the average conservative. Your response is a video of a left-wing person promoting violence? If you think that makes sense then you didn't get it. Try to figure it out and come back with a response or post your illiterate gibberish to someone else.
 

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I have no desire to respond to you if can't understand the point I made or are incapable for typing anything other than the random **** that pops in your head.

I understood perfectly...

But it's also important to consider what an ideology actually expresses. You can't go around using rhetoric that incites violence and then claim violent people on your side are not your own.

The OP is saying right wing rhetoric (otherwise known as opinions and points of views not of his/her own) incites violence. In particular the Cop killings in Vegas. You are saying that we cannot separate these killers from ourselves if they share some of the same views as us.
 
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Corduroy

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Wow, fool me once. Here I am telling you you don't get it, and then I tell you to go post your illiterate gibberish to someone else without realizing you wouldn't get that either.