How climate change is already costing us

petros

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Being a fiscal conservative doesn't just mean making cuts.

If we gradually (and sustainably) reduced emissions we could avoid unreasonable cuts and higher taxes altogether.

Ortherwise it's only a matter of time before there is some kind of environmental policy that hits our wallets.
How do you pay for services with reduced emissions?
 

Nuggler

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60, or is it 40 % of the great lakes are frozen, with ships stuck in some serious ice.


the scientists are baffled.


me too


polar bears are happy (farther north)


seals are pissed.
 

darkbeaver

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60, or is it 40 % of the great lakes are frozen, with ships stuck in some serious ice.


the scientists are baffled.


me too


polar bears are happy (farther north)


seals are pissed.

The thermometers must have gone in the cutbacks.

How do you pay for services with reduced emissions?

A state of national emergency and rationing until CO2 targets are met, the climate problem must be understood by the global citizen as the Holy War for the very survival of the human species and that it can only be won at astronomical cost in blood and treasure etc etc.We desperately need a global monarch to stiffen our resolve. I'm packing all my aluminum pots and pans for the war effort and I'm knitting socks for the boys at the front, over there, in the axle of evil.
 

Nuggler

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Maybe too many municipal govts figgered there was no need for winter costs and cut things like plows, sanding trucks, graders and other things needed for living in Canada.

PS TRIM YOUR F-CKING TREES THAT HAVE LIMBS OVERHANGING POWERS LINES FOR F-CK SAKES




Small branch overhanging our hydro access line. Too high for me to reach, especially on an aluminum step ladder.


Asked Hydro One to cut the branch. Sorry, we don't cut branches that are not on the main line. Get a contractor.


Asked a contractor. No way. Too close to the hydro line. Get hydro to do it.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Here's another way that that Climate change is costing us. Someone in the Government got an idea that Diesel engines should be upgraded to burn cleaner by adding a pollution control system in which the use a Diesel Exhaust Fluid to necessitate high burns apparently to lower emissions. BTW this technoilogy is very questionable.

So a few years ago they came up with an engine which burned carbon out of the exhaust when a sensor alerted the computer, but that wasn't good enough. So someone came up with the idea of adding a DEF Tank to the big trucks which cuts fuel by up to 3 miles a gallon while increasing the cost of DEF purchase at .70 cents a litre. So instead of getting 7 miles to the gallon trucks are now getting 4 miles to the gallon.

So think about that, all those extra gallons of diesel are being pulled from the ground to support the billions of extra miles/per gallon lost by Big trucks on our highways today.

But it gets even better. The DEF cannot be sold in bulk at stations because it freezes in low temperatures as major truck stops are finding out after spending billions to upgrade.

So the alternative are millions of these.


Ending up in landfills while the big bad oil companies sell even more fossil fuel to a growing market, along with the chemical known as DEF.

Not surprisingly, Europe is abandoning this idiot, cash grab that has made some people very rich while robbing the average owner operator of even more money. Gotta love those rabid environmentalists.
 

relic

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Exhaust fluid . What comes to mind when you hear that, some kind of lube for your stacks ?
Owner operator = broker, as in, do it till you're so far in the hole you have to work for somebody else.
 

captain morgan

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Global warming is causing more extreme weather such as downpours, high winds and other events that result in floods and broken trees, said Chris Firth-Eagland, head of the Hamilton Conservation Authority (HCA).


Buddy talks as if his statement is based in fact


And it’s only going to get worse, he said.

Based on what? The one and only functional computer model that actually works?

Too funny
 

B00Mer

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Climate change is real.... and as I said hope those who do not believe are the ones effected the most, financially.

Yet they seem to take great offence to my above statement, I'm not sure why, because if it's untrue they should not be concerned about flash floods in Calgary, tornados bigger than before in the praries, and so on... As there is no climate change according to them, unless they are not sure....

Winters are getting colder and summers hotter, are more flooding because of upper atmosphere being warmer and holding more moisture, more massive fires because if the heat and dryness in certain areas, and more frequent power outrages because of ice storms..

Personally I don't have kids that have to live in the world our "greedy" generation leaves them.. So I can idol my C15 engine all day and night with no guilt..

There is so much we do not know about our own plant, we have made it to outer space but know little about the greatest depths of our own oceans..

We are all in the ride together on Space Ship Earth hurdeling through space, a tiny blue speck in the greater cosmos... We should be more caring about our only home we have right now... Mother Earth
 
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taxslave

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Climate change is real.... and as I said hope those who do not believe are the ones effected the most, financially.

Yet they seem to take great offence to my above statement, I'm not sure why, because if it's untrue they should not be concerned about flash floods in Calgary, tornados bigger than before in the praries, and so on... As there is no climate change according to them, unless they are not sure....

Winters are getting colder and summers hotter, are more flooding because of upper atmosphere being warmer and holding more moisture..

Personally I don't have kids that have to live in the world our "greedy" generation leaves them.. So I can idol my C15 engine all day and night with no guilt..

Climate has been changing since day one on this rock. Spending tons of money on stupid things is not going to change that fact. See RCS's post. Not only is this a stupid idea it is a make work project for shops to change sensors and other expensive parts that should not be on a truck in the first place.
 

mentalfloss

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Got an example?

20 more years of environmental negligence will have you shelling out big bucks.

But it's okay Walt. You keep up the good fight. It will totally be worth the tax hike in the end.
 

mentalfloss

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How so? We already paid climate taxes. What now? Sacrifice a goat?

We?

As far as I understand, there are carbon taxes in only three provinces so far. The two nice ones and the one really dirty one.
 

EagleSmack

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We?

As far as I understand, there are carbon taxes in only three provinces so far. The two nice ones and the one really dirty one.

I feel bad for those 3 provinces. Hard earned money being flushed down the tubes.

How has the carbon tax helped? Mother Earth keeps changing doesn't she?

Wasted money.