How about them Canucks!

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I don't blame Sid anymore than I blame any other player who normally does not get involved in the extra-curricular stuff that goes on in the play-offs, talloola. Emotion gets the best of even the best sometimes. Hartnell -the hair guy - holding onto to Sid's stick like he did was childish....he was asking for it.

I think you might be on to something. :smile: Was beginning to wonder where you got to.
Watching hockey until my eyeballs are red...LOL! Was away house-sitting where the folks don't have internet..........it was like being deprived of oxygen.:lol:
 

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Are they the Canucks or are they the Vancouver Canucks?
Sorry, Petros............I simply don't see your point here.

I still don't blame so-called 'Canucks' fans for the riot........sure there were some of them there but there were also hundreds who watched the game and went home. And again, the team didn't cause the riots! I have often thought since then that even had the Canucks won the game, the riots could well have happened. Just saying.

I've been a Canucks supporter since 1972. In those 40 years I've learned that the play-offs are a depressing time of year. I have no hope left to offer.

Just about as depressing as when the Riders fail to live up to my expectations. :smile:

No use jumping off the pier until the tide comes in. :lol:

True, JLM..........but the way this first round is going makes me wonder if any of the so-called top teams will fulfill expectations. Was really hoping that Washington would win last night but those dirty little Bruins had other ideas. LOL! And, I don't even really like the Capitols, go figure.
 

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Sorry, Petros............I simply don't see your point here.

I still don't blame so-called 'Canucks' fans for the riot........sure there were some of them there but there were also hundreds who watched the game and went home. And again, the team didn't cause the riots! I have often thought since then that even had the Canucks won the game, the riots could well have happened. Just saying.



Just about as depressing as when the Riders fail to live up to my expectations. :smile:
Teams are inseparable from the city/province or state they play in.

The key to not being disappointed is to be a team supporter and put being a "fan" (short for fanatic) to the side.
 

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What I really can't understand, talloola, is why the Canucks are so hated by so many Canadians???? Where the heck did they ever earn that much hatred?? It really stunned me when I heard a survey saying that most Canadians would rather see a US team win the Cup rather than the Canucks.

I don't pay any attention to that stuff, anything along those lines can be started by almost anyone.
The media being the lowest of the low, then fans follow like sheep, and it all escalates from there,
I see that it is drifting into the east now, about two of their teams being the most hated teams in the
east, can't remember which ones, as I don't take any of it seriously.
The boston media was 'vile', toward the canucks, probably started in that area.

But sure, just think of aspects of life, and those who are at the top, movie stars, rock bands,
etc., have such terrible rumours spread about them, no one knows where they came from, and they are
mostly false, (except when it is on the front page of the paper, arrests etc.)
This rumour came 'before' the riots, but that definitely was fuel for that fire.
And, that had nothing to do with the team.

And, as I said before, they just need to slide down the charts and become a mediocre team, and there
won't be any more of that.

But, every time kesler takes a dive, i'm sure one of those yappers sees that, and can't wait to
stoke the fire again.

We know that the players are good people, and we know the coaches and management are as well, and
what we know about our team is what is important, not that other stuff.

I'm sure the players and management don't listen to sports shows and don't read sports columnist
articles, and that is the smart thing to do.
 
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You are missing an important point, perhaps the loss wasn't from failure to perform, maybe the winner got a lucky bounce off the boards! Surely you've heard of teams winning who "didn't deserve to win", can just as easily work the other way! :smile:

There are always 'lucky' bounces and bad and good calls that go both ways. The loser will tend to point at the ones that go against them as the 'reason' why they failed. With all things being equaled, the better team is expected to win most of the games against a lesser opponent. When that doesn't happen either the lower team outperforms its stature (happens) and/or the higher team underperforms. Underperforming is called choking. So the question is are the LA Kings world beaters (not in my book) or are the Canucks chokers?

The real discussion is would there be less likely to be a riot if the Canucks lose in LA in game 4 or 6 than if they lose in Vancouver in game 5 or 7?
 

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all of the teams in the nhl have played hockey since they were kids, they have learned how to win and

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team 1040 broadcast crew are in l.a. right now, and have been since the last game, and they mentioned
something rather interesting.

they said that on the jumbo tron in the rink, before the game started, the l.a. people had found
picures of certain canuck players, pictures that made them look 'less' than their best.

eg. hanrik sedin looking like he was pouting, and others such pictures, then they flash them over and
over to the fans, while the teams are warming up and getting ready.

i'm sure we would never see such pictures of any player in any canadian rink, under the same
circumstances.

pretty tacky, no class at all, but of course down there, and in other places in the u.s. they are
just babies at this game, and haven't really figured it out yet, so they resort to national enquirer
tactics.

some day they will 'get it'., but on the other hand, when it comes to 'fans', I guess they think that
is cool, and funny, at least all the children would.
 
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There are always 'lucky' bounces and bad and good calls that go both ways. The loser will tend to point at the ones that go against them as the 'reason' why they failed. With all things being equaled, the better team is expected to win most of the games against a lesser opponent. When that doesn't happen either the lower team outperforms its stature (happens) and/or the higher team underperforms. Underperforming is called choking. So the question is are the LA Kings world beaters (not in my book) or are the Canucks chokers?

The real discussion is would there be less likely to be a riot if the Canucks lose in LA in game 4 or 6 than if they lose in Vancouver in game 5 or 7?

No sense in getting hung up on semantics especially slang ones. They lost 3 in a row, not good, not the end of the fricken world. The seeds don't mean as much as you'd like to make out. Canucks and Kings reg. season schedules are very different, Canucks games were mainly against poor performing N.W. division, Kings games were mainly against higher performing Pacific Division. There is just too many ingredients to put much stock in the "seeds". Phoenix seeded third! Are they a better team than L.A.?

To put things in context about 150 people have been charged with the riot. From a population of close to a million people, the lowest 150 on the I.Q. chart, would hardly reach "room temperature", so there you have it. :lol:
 

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No sense in getting hung up on semantics especially slang ones. They lost 3 in a row, not good, not the end of the fricken world. The seeds don't mean as much as you'd like to make out. Canucks and Kings reg. season schedules are very different, Canucks games were mainly against poor performing N.W. division, Kings games were mainly against higher performing Pacific Division. There is just too many ingredients to put much stock in the "seeds". Phoenix seeded third! Are they a better team than L.A.?

Good point about the unbalanced schedule. Probably does distort the seeding. Particularly rewarding division winners with preferencial seeding.

To put things in context about 150 people have been charged with the riot. From a population of close to a million people, the lowest 150 on the I.Q. chart, would hardly reach "room temperature", so there you have it. :lol:

Those are the ones they caught right? The smarter ones are still on the loose?
 

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What I really can't understand, talloola, is why the Canucks are so hated by so many Canadians???? Where the heck did they ever earn that much hatred?? It really stunned me when I heard a survey saying that most Canadians would rather see a US team win the Cup rather than the Canucks.

LMAO. Nice survey. Must have been a stinger for sure.

If it is any consolation I'd rather see the Blue Jays win a world series than the NY Yankees.

And besides... most of the players on any team are Canadians.

Heck... even my BC Eagles had about 5 Canadians and look what they did!


 

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Good point about the unbalanced schedule. Probably does distort the seeding. Particularly rewarding division winners with preferencial seeding.



Those are the ones they caught right? The smarter ones are still on the loose?

I think with the hundreds of pictures that were taken, the only ones still on the loose are the ones who were smart enough to evaporate as the pictures were being shot. :lol:
 

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I don't blame Sid anymore than I blame any other player who normally does not get involved in the extra-curricular stuff that goes on in the play-offs, talloola. Emotion gets the best of even the best sometimes. Hartnell -the hair guy - holding onto to Sid's stick like he did was childish....he was asking for it.

It wasn't the physical actions on the ice I was referring to, and I agree that many of them were acting
ridiculous, it is the interview with the media, as
the captain of the team, his words were not well thought out at all.
 

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Game 4 might be the last for Vancouver and all the players and coaches can take their share of blame if that's the result. One guy who I think has taken too much fall most of his career is Henrik Sedin.

There are all the jokes about Sedin Sisters etal but I'd like to know anyone in this league that's as strong on the puck as he is. When he goes into a corner and has a chance to get his stick anywhere near the puck he's coming out with it 99% of the time, and usually with someone draped over him who can't do a thing about it. The fact he doesn't fight is probably good for the health of others because if he did he'd probably kick the crap out most.
 

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Game 4 might be the last for Vancouver and all the players and coaches can take their share of blame if that's the result. One guy who I think has taken too much fall most of his career is Henrik Sedin.

There are all the jokes about Sedin Sisters etal but I'd like to know anyone in this league that's as strong on the puck as he is. When he goes into a corner and has a chance to get his stick anywhere near the puck he's coming out with it 99% of the time, and usually with someone draped over him who can't do a thing about it. The fact he doesn't fight is probably good for the health of others because if he did he'd probably kick the crap out most.

I have no problem at all with the posters who refer to Hank and Dan'l as the "Sedin Sisters", they are just exposing their ignorance for the whole wide world to see. These guys have been stellar for 13 years! Professional Sports is going down the toilet and a lot of the followers right along with it. Actually it's been going on for the last 30 years back to when they were paying Dennis Rodman $60 million a year. :lol::lol::lol:
 

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Game 4 might be the last for Vancouver and all the players and coaches can take their share of blame if that's the result. One guy who I think has taken too much fall most of his career is Henrik Sedin.

There are all the jokes about Sedin Sisters etal but I'd like to know anyone in this league that's as strong on the puck as he is. When he goes into a corner and has a chance to get his stick anywhere near the puck he's coming out with it 99% of the time, and usually with someone draped over him who can't do a thing about it. The fact he doesn't fight is probably good for the health of others because if he did he'd probably kick the crap out most.

yes, I agree, a stronger human being, both physically and mentally, I have not seen before.
and very intelligent, along with daniel.

He was knocked flat the other night, and watching him try to get up, while knocking on the bench door
was heart wrenching, then he came back out and took a 3 minute shift including a power play, and
came off the ice without even looking tired.

That guy that was sitting right behind the bench with that shirt on, with 'sisters' written on it, I
would have like to have thrown him on the ice, to be used as a puck.

The disrespect given hank and danny is very very sad. The mental strength it takes to ignore the stupidity
of others is commendable, and we have seen that quality from them for years, and others mistake that as
a weakness, they just don't 'get it'.
 

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Teams are inseparable from the city/province or state they play in.

Ah.........now I see your point, thanks for the clarification.

The key to not being disappointed is to be a team supporter and put being a "fan" (short for fanatic) to the side.

True, Petros.....when it comes to hockey, I am a supporter, though when it comes to the Riders......well I guess I can be a bit of a fanatic.:smile:

all of the teams in the nhl have played hockey since they were kids, they have learned how to win and

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team 1040 broadcast crew are in l.a. right now, and have been since the last game, and they mentioned
something rather interesting.

they said that on the jumbo tron in the rink, before the game started, the l.a. people had found
picures of certain canuck players, pictures that made them look 'less' than their best.

eg. hanrik sedin looking like he was pouting, and others such pictures, then they flash them over and
over to the fans, while the teams are warming up and getting ready.

i'm sure we would never see such pictures of any player in any canadian rink, under the same
circumstances.

pretty tacky, no class at all, but of course down there, and in other places in the u.s. they are
just babies at this game, and haven't really figured it out yet, so they resort to national enquirer
tactics.

some day they will 'get it'., but on the other hand, when it comes to 'fans', I guess they think that
is cool, and funny, at least all the children would.

During the Bruins game the other night, fans had photos of Obama with the words 'Hope' written large and at the bottom, 'you are pulled.' Didn't really get it (yeah I can be soooo slow at times) until the announcers explained they were aimed at Tim Thomas.
 

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During the Bruins game the other night, fans had photos of Obama with the words 'Hope' written large and at the bottom, 'you are pulled.' Didn't really get it (yeah I can be soooo slow at times) until the announcers explained they were aimed at Tim Thomas.

Those signs were funny, I thought it was great. I'm pretty sure Thomas was laughing about them.
 

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I'm sure the players and management don't listen to sports shows and don't read sports columnist articles, and that is the smart thing to do.

I don't know about that talloola, none of them live in a bubble and someone is going to hear about it and let the others know.......just saying. I know how I would feel about hearing such nonsense and these guys are just as human as the rest of us, it has to bother them even just a bit.

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well, they definitely have to hear many of the stupid questions put to them in
interviews, but i'm sure they never turn on team 1040, not sure about the newspaper,
guess some do and some don't.

I know when gillis is on team 1040 for the odd interview, and any of the players
who come on periodically for phone interviews, it is refreshing, because anything
they say is so totally sensible and logical and real, compared to all of the
panic and speculation caused from everyday media and fan talk, I just turned the
radio off because i'm tired of them and callers beating to death the fact that
daniel might play tonight, many accusing the team of pushing him back just because
of the importance of the game, and it doesn't matter how many times vineault and
daniel will say exactly how it is, the ears are closed, and blame game starts,
and 'what ifs'.
It is up to daniel at this point, how he is feeling today, sure he is a bit out
of shape, and he admitted that, and kind of laughed about how slow he might be, but
that has nothing to do with the concussion symptoms, he will play if he thinks
he can, because after he has practiced, today his body will tell him what he
needs to know.
 
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