How about them Canucks!

[#juan]

In the last ten or twelve games, the Canucks have started to remind me of the Edmonton oilers in their heyday. I don't by any means say that the Canucks are as strong as Edmonton was but, they are finding ways to win games that they would have lost earlier in the season. I think their success is not only due to Luongo being healthy again, but the addition of Mats Sundin that facillitated the making of another solid line to take the pressure off the Sedin line. The team can now put three pretty good lines on the ice that are all a threat to any other team. I wonder who might be available as a free agent at the deadline?.......

 

[L Gilbert]

I guess what you think is foolish, is the large contracts and salaries and ticket
prices, and, the little help for the homeless and students, and that is impossible
to deal with, many homeless are there because of their own laziness, and it
doesn't matter how much help is givlen them, they will 'take take take,
(opposite applies to sports figures, as they have put years and years of hard work and practice and drive, for success), but the student problem is more serious as
education should be easier accessible for those who want to put the same amount of study and hard work as those sports figures, and it isn't, so the government needs to work on that one.
I am also aware of students who have received a good education as a result of
loans over the years, which have never been paid back, and they have found
ways around that system, not right either, and some of these ex students have
never worked hard to improve their position and have never used that education positively, they have just 'taken' from the government and never given back.

Yes, the inequalities are what I find foolish. And homelesness CAN and IS being dealt with. So what if SOME are lazy and won't be helped? Some CAN. You don't think there are lazy sports figures? lol That's funny. I would bet that a large chunk only do the absolute minimum they need to have their job. Engineers and doctors and others don't put in years and years of hard work and drive to succeed? Where are their millions per year? They do an awful lot more for life than playing a silly game for other people's entertainment, especially when there are other forms of entertainment. So there are some parents who have paid for their kids' ed. We are exa,ples of those, but not everyone can do that, and if a student cannot find sufficient work to pay for their ed they either borrow or take up something else. Perhaps they could use some of the billions spent on gamesters salaries.
Why do they need such salaries? Aren't there people that play these games just as well that don't get millions per year? I saw a baseball game one time where a bat girl went and caught a flyball when the fielder had given up on it. Was her wage comparable to the fielder's? I really doubt it. Pro sports salaries (as well as tv personalities salaries, etc) is an insult to people who actually are of more benefit to life.

 

[L Gilbert]

I was answering your post about the homeless, doctor's salaries, and student debt, none of which have anything to do with professional athlete's salaries.

Salaries are salaries. Comparing them is relevant. I guess that didn't occur to you.

The top athletes in just about any sport can command huge salaries but they are no different from film stars, or tv personalities who can get a million dollars an episode on regular television.

Right, and that is just as foul.

As far as student debt is concerned, it depends on the student. A good number, probably a majority of students work their way through college with help from their parents. Doctors are paid what the going rate is for the hours they work. Would they do better work if we paid them each a million a year? Somehow I doubt it.

What makes you think large sums of money is a guarantee of good quality of workmanship? I have known professional firefighters that get much higher salaries than those that get less and yet aren't as good at firefighting. Pro sports is different?
For the most part I enjoy watching amateurs play more than pros. The entertainment value is just as good and a LOT cheaper.

 

[Cannuck]

Been a Medicine Hat Tigers season ticket holder for years and I find it far more entertaining than pro just because the kids are hungry.

That said, I don't begrudge the huge salaries. If I could get 20,000 people to pay $50, 40 times a year to watch me work for a couple of hours I could probably get a raise in pay.

 

[#juan]

Gilbert you have to read the post before you reply. What you've written is gibberish.

 

[talloola]

What makes you think large sums of money is a guarantee of good quality of workmanship? I have known professional firefighters that get much higher salaries than those that get less and yet aren't as good at firefighting. Pro sports is different?
For the most part I enjoy watching amateurs play more than pros. The entertainment value is just as good and a LOT cheaper.

Then, watch what you like to watch, but the amateurs will never be at
the level of the pros, will never beat them. In every walk of life those who
are striving to be the best, want to be the best, so that is the top of the heap.
The NHL is the top of the heap, better than any of the junior teams, better
than any amateur team, so it is quite simple, although there are always those
who, (and you seem to be one of them) that seem to dislike them once they
reach a peak where they are making good money, so, for you I guess it's all
about the money. The NHL players have worked their butts off since they were
little kids, and the ones who make it are the ones who have the mental and
physical qualities to 'get' there, there are many problems that could arise on the way, injuries being one of the major hurdles on the way. The NHL players make as much, as the time they are playing
in, demand, no different than any walk of life. They bring enjoyment to thousands of fans, true hockey fans, who love the game and strive and holler
at each game hoping their team will the 'the one' this year. That is canada,
today is hockey day in canada, and it really shows the true celebration of our
national game, all three games in canada today, are canadian teams playing each other, and
it is very exciting, but watch what you want, enjoy what you want, but don't
pretend that the nhl isn't what it is, the greatest league in the world.
There are many on this board who don't like professional sports at all, don't
understand it, and never will, that is 'life', so be it.
If the nhl player isn't doing what he should be, there are many waiting in the wings
to take his place, and he won't be there long, and they know it, the teams do not
drag lazy players or inept players along for the ride, if they don't or can't deliver,
they won't be there, not so with many doctors who go through their careers as second
rate doctors, and drag in lots of money along the way.
I don't go to NHL hockey games to be 'entertained' I go to see hockey at it's
highest level, and I can't get that anywhere else.

 

[talloola]

game time 4:00 CBC

For the Canucks…

Arguably the most decorated player in Leafs history, Mats Sundin makes his first trip back to Toronto as a member of the Vancouver Canucks to play his former team for the first time since leaving as a free agent at the end of the 2007.08 season. During his time in Toronto, the 38-year old Sundin was a six-time NHL All-Star and shot his way to the top of the Maple Leafs record books where he currently sits sixth on their franchise’s all-time games played list with 981, first on the all-time goals list with 420, first on the all-time game-winning goals list with 79, and first on the all-time points list with 987. His 70 playoff points as a Maple Leaf is also second on their all-time playoff points list behind only Doug Gilmour.
The native of Bromma, Sweden, who spent the final 10 of those 13 seasons in Toronto as Leafs’ first-ever European-born captain, will be looking to do something he has done plenty of times in the past: score at the Air Canada Centre. He comes into tonight’s game without a goal in his last five games and just two assists in that span. Before being dealt to the Maple Leafs from the Quebec Nordiques, Sundin had appeared in 11 career games versus Toronto recording 17 points (7-10-17) and a plus-six rating

 

[talloola]

Yes, the inequalities are what I find foolish. And homelesness CAN and IS being dealt with. So what if SOME are lazy and won't be helped? Some CAN. You don't think there are lazy sports figures? lol That's funny. I would bet that a large chunk only do the absolute minimum they need to have their job. Engineers and doctors and others don't put in years and years of hard work and drive to succeed? Where are their millions per year? They do an awful lot more for life than playing a silly game for other people's entertainment, especially when there are other forms of entertainment. So there are some parents who have paid for their kids' ed. We are exa,ples of those, but not everyone can do that, and if a student cannot find sufficient work to pay for their ed they either borrow or take up something else. Perhaps they could use some of the billions spent on gamesters salaries.
Why do they need such salaries? Aren't there people that play these games just as well that don't get millions per year? I saw a baseball game one time where a bat girl went and caught a flyball when the fielder had given up on it. Was her wage comparable to the fielder's? I really doubt it. Pro sports salaries (as well as tv personalities salaries, etc) is an insult to people who actually are of more benefit to life.

That all sounds really silly, and only proves that you have no idea at all what
those NHL players have done to reach that level, and it isn't true at all that
lazy hockey players remain on any of those teams, not for long, they will be
booted out on the butts, cause there are plenty waiting to take their place.

 

[#juan]

Well Talloola they did find a way to win. Luongo was great again and he stopped what he needed to stop. A shutout would have been nice but a win in a shoot-out gets them two points as well. There was a lot of hype for this game and I think a few Toronto players were playing above their level but the best team won.

 

[Cannuck]

Great to see Sundin win it in the end.

 

[Just the Facts]

Well Talloola they did find a way to win. Luongo was great again and he stopped what he needed to stop. A shutout would have been nice but a win in a shoot-out gets them two points as well. There was a lot of hype for this game and I think a few Toronto players were playing above their level but the best team won.

:lol: It was a tie. This shootout thingy is just an administrative formality for the extra point. Means nothing in real hockey.

 

[#juan]

:lol: It was a tie. This shootout thingy is just an administrative formality for the extra point. Means nothing in real hockey.

No. You will notice that Vancouver's points went up by two points, so the extra goal in the shoot-out did count. I don't like it, but in every hockey association in the world, they use the shoot-out to settle a tie. Better to win by a point than lose by a point.....;-):smile:

 

[Just the Facts]

No. You will notice that Vancouver's points went up by two points, so the extra goal in the shoot-out did count. I don't like it, but in every hockey association in the world, they use the shoot-out to settle a tie. Better to win by a point than lose by a point.....;-):smile:

That's what I said, an administrative formality for the extra point. Not to be confused with hockey.

 

[JLM]

:lol: It was a tie. This shootout thingy is just an administrative formality for the extra point. Means nothing in real hockey.

When it got down to five minutes left in the third, I was thinking it's not looking good and thought of talloola and how it would spoil her Saturday night, but I guess the gods were looking down.

 

[JLM]

No. You will notice that Vancouver's points went up by two points, so the extra goal in the shoot-out did count. I don't like it, but in every hockey association in the world, they use the shoot-out to settle a tie. Better to win by a point than lose by a point.....;-):smile:

In the great scheme of things it doesn't make a lot of difference, before the shootout business, a team could generally make the playoffs with about 85 points, now they generally need over 90 to be sure of making it. But it does reduce the shock in the individual game to get the one point for a loss.

 

[shadowshiv]

Well, I am glad that Vancouver won(due to Luongo being in my pool) but sad that my Leafs lost. However, they played a good game and it was tight right to the end. It is weird seeing that Sundin got the winning goal in the shootout. Kismet?

I will say that I HATE the shootout. I would much prefer extra OT periods to determine the game. If 4 on 4 doesn't solve anything, perhaps go to 3 on 3. Anything but the shootout.:roll:

 

[Kreskin]

The Leafs goalie played extremely well. I have nothing against any Leaf players or fans. Burke is another matter. Winning this game would've made him 2 hat sizes bigger.

 

[JLM]

Well, I am glad that Vancouver won(due to Luongo being in my pool) but sad that my Leafs lost. However, they played a good game and it was tight right to the end. It is weird seeing that Sundin got the winning goal in the shootout. Kismet?

I will say that I HATE the shootout. I would much prefer extra OT periods to determine the game. If 4 on 4 doesn't solve anything, perhaps go to 3 on 3. Anything but the shootout.:roll:

I think they limit the amount of O.T. time in the reg. season to keep injuries at a minimum.

 

[JLM]

The Leafs goalie played extremely well. I have nothing against any Leaf players or fans. Burke is another matter. Winning this game would've made him 2 hat sizes bigger.

Yep, Burke is a different kind of cat- I doubt if he's ever been mistaken for Fred Rogers.

 

[Kreskin]

Yep, Burke is a different kind of cat- I doubt if he's ever been mistaken for Fred Rogers.

He would be a hoot at a party. Non stop one liners and knee slappers.