How about them Canucks!

JLM

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2-0 in the second period isn't 'anything' in the bag, what do you think the other
team is going to do, give up?

No but if you check final outcomes of teams that had a 2 goal lead in the 2nd period it's very seldom that they wind up being beaten- maybe 5% chance.
 

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Luongo was great and we expect him to be great but Mason also kept his team in the game. But for Mason the score could have been much worse for St. Louis.
Another thing I did notice was how St. Louis went after Luongo time after time and no calls. I would hate to see Luongo hurt again.
 

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No but if you check final outcomes of teams that had a 2 goal lead in the 2nd period it's very seldom that they wind up being beaten- maybe 5% chance.

Are you checking regular season stats or playoff stats. But to say that a team
isn't able to play good enough to reach the finals because they gave up a 2-0
lead, half way through the game, doesn't make much sense to me.
No one knows if Canucks are going to go further or not, no one even knows
who we are going to play, and even if we did know who we are going to play,
no one would know how we will do, and that doesn't matter who it is, most
would say we would play anaheim better than the two top teams, but that
might not be so, as anaheim has risen their level of play in playoffs, look more
like the anaheim of the past few years. If we play detroit, no one know how
long osgood will play at the high level he is playing the first series, as his
play throughout the year was awful, so if another team pressures him hard
and makes him give up a few early, who knows, detroit is just another team if
their goalie lets them down.
San Jose won the presidents cup, then played crappy in the first two games,
have one win now.
Detroit played spotty coming down the stretch, Osgood was horrible, now he
is playing good.
Steve Mason played the best of all goalies all season, now he is playing at a
lower level during playoffs.
Calgary played poorly going towards playoffs, lots of injuries, they are playing
better now, but I wouldn't give a guess as to who is going to win that series,
although no one gave Calgary much of a chance going into the playoffs.
It's impossible to know how a team will play in the second round, it depends
on 'who is playing who', and injuries play a big part, and who's goalie can keep
up the good play.
Who would ever have given Rangers a chance against washington, but now they
are leading in the fourth game, and if they win it, they will be up on Washington 3 games to 1
Montreal is the only team who is continuing playing at a low level just like they
were playing at the end of the season, so Boston won't have any problem with
them, and that was predictable.
Carolina and New Jersey are very even, and no one can predict the outcome of
that one, depends again on the goalies and who's goalie plays solid.
Nabokov isn't playing his best either, so that isn't helping San Jose.
One game at a time, and one series at a time, and one shouldn't look any further
than that, just ask Vineault and his coaching staff.
 

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Vineault said the Blues in the second period were as good as anyone they have seen this year. When a team has it's back to the wall anything can happen. They were one of the hottest teams in the league going into this series.

I liked how calm and confident Luongo played after they're second goal.
 

JLM

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Are you checking regular season stats or playoff stats. But to say that a team
isn't able to play good enough to reach the finals because they gave up a 2-0
lead, half way through the game, doesn't make much sense to me.
No one knows if Canucks are going to go further or not, no one even knows
who we are going to play, and even if we did know who we are going to play,
no one would know how we will do, and that doesn't matter who it is, most
would say we would play anaheim better than the two top teams, but that
might not be so, as anaheim has risen their level of play in playoffs, look more
like the anaheim of the past few years. If we play detroit, no one know how
long osgood will play at the high level he is playing the first series, as his
play throughout the year was awful, so if another team pressures him hard
and makes him give up a few early, who knows, detroit is just another team if
their goalie lets them down.
San Jose won the presidents cup, then played crappy in the first two games,
have one win now.
Detroit played spotty coming down the stretch, Osgood was horrible, now he
is playing good.
Steve Mason played the best of all goalies all season, now he is playing at a
lower level during playoffs.
Calgary played poorly going towards playoffs, lots of injuries, they are playing
better now, but I wouldn't give a guess as to who is going to win that series,
although no one gave Calgary much of a chance going into the playoffs.
It's impossible to know how a team will play in the second round, it depends
on 'who is playing who', and injuries play a big part, and who's goalie can keep
up the good play.
Who would ever have given Rangers a chance against washington, but now they
are leading in the fourth game, and if they win it, they will be up on Washington 3 games to 1
Montreal is the only team who is continuing playing at a low level just like they
were playing at the end of the season, so Boston won't have any problem with
them, and that was predictable.
Carolina and New Jersey are very even, and no one can predict the outcome of
that one, depends again on the goalies and who's goalie plays solid.
Nabokov isn't playing his best either, so that isn't helping San Jose.
One game at a time, and one series at a time, and one shouldn't look any further
than that, just ask Vineault and his coaching staff.
Yep, I was thinking over what I said, thinking at the time I said it that a team has to be pretty well perfect to win the cup, but I guess if none of the other teams are close to perfect, there's room for a few errors. REalizing that the Canucks were the first team to qualify for the second round, that would give them a little more breathing room. Like you Talloola I hope with all my heart they can win the cup this year, they certainly have the ingredients.
 

Kreskin

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What I liked too was how Vineault didn't spend a lot of effort trying to line match. It's hard to get the flow going when everyone spends half of their ice time going back and forth to the bench.
 

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Look at all the amazing events that have shaped our season so far:

Luc Bourdon dies in the off season, which seemingly inspires his good friend Alex Burrows to play like he has never played before.

The team puts a LB symbol on the back of their helmets to commemorate the up and coming defenseman.

The team debuts sharp, new uniforms. Finally a cool logo, design and the true colours of a canuck.

Cliff Ronning hands over his #7 jersey to fans in a ceremony decreeing the 7th man!That's us!!!:cool::cool::cool:

The Canucks name Roberto Luongo as Captain of the team! Not done since the 1940's, and looked down upon by the NHL brass. We do it anyway. Why? Because! That' why!

A crowning moment: Trevor Linden's #16 retired to the rafters of the Garage! What an amazing person, I still get a little misty eyed thinking about it. If only he had one more year in him...

Our captain gets injured and upon his return we go on a nasty losing streak. Nevertheless essential to obtaining the virtures of overcoming adversity and tribulations(you can't recognize the good times unless you've been thru the bad times).

The boys completely turn it right around and tear up the league!

We beat our franchise record for home wins!

We captured the Northwest title!

We achieved a franchise first--sweep a seven game series!

I try not to make bold predictions as the Canucks have certainly been disappointing in the past, but if I may, I think this might be the year! It certainly is lining up to be a rememberable one!
Go Canucks Go!!!
 

talloola

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Yep, I was thinking over what I said, thinking at the time I said it that a team has to be pretty well perfect to win the cup, but I guess if none of the other teams are close to perfect, there's room for a few errors. REalizing that the Canucks were the first team to qualify for the second round, that would give them a little more breathing room. Like you Talloola I hope with all my heart they can win the cup this year, they certainly have the ingredients.
All the situations around the team have to be perfect, and all the chips fall
in the right places, one bad injury to a key player, and that can send a team sliding
down a slippery slope. There is luck involved for all teams involved, and it isn't all
good luck.
I'll be happy if they get through the next round, I'll be happy if they win the
first game of the next round. The layoff has 'good and bad.' The good is that
they can heal up all of their little injuries and soreness, the bad is that they
can't keep up their intensity and focus while 'not' playing, even though Vineault
knows that and will do everything in his power to prevent it, it is bound to
happen, but on the flip side of that, they will be sick of 'not' playing, and be
very eager to get back into it, so hopefully they don't look flat or slow, in their
next game.
With any luck the other teams will beat each other to a pulp, and we can
be very fresh. Detroit should be finished tomorrow, so they will be off for
a while too, and we will possibly play them.
I am totally happy with the canucks, I have enjoyed their season so much, I feel
such a bond with every player, and if they don't win another game this year, I
will still be happy with what they have done this season, but it's not over, and
on we go.

Montreal is finished now, and Boston looks very strong.
Rangers have a 3-1 lead over Washington. Pittsburg have a 3-1 lead over Philly.
Calgary and Chicago are tied 2 games a piece, now back to chicago on Sat.
Anaheim and San Jose will play their 4th game tomorrow, if San Jose win again,
they will go back to San Jose tied at 2
Detroit will finish off Columbus tomorrow most likely, unless Steve Mason comes
alive again, and plays like he did in the regular season.
 
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I am very angry at how poorly Washington is doing against the Rangers. If Theodore hadn't sucked so badly in Game #1 the series would be tied 2-2. Of course, if Washington had won game #1 I think they would have been ahead 3-1 right now. Stupid Theodore. Win or lose, you won't be seeing him play another game these playoffs(unless the rookie goalie gets hurt).

Boston absolutely schooled Montreal. I think it shows that the Boston of this year is nothing like the Boston of last year. They look like they will be playing in the finals for sure!
 

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I am very angry at how poorly Washington is doing against the Rangers. If Theodore hadn't sucked so badly in Game #1 the series would be tied 2-2. Of course, if Washington had won game #1 I think they would have been ahead 3-1 right now. Stupid Theodore. Win or lose, you won't be seeing him play another game these playoffs(unless the rookie goalie gets hurt).

Boston absolutely schooled Montreal. I think it shows that the Boston of this year is nothing like the Boston of last year. They look like they will be playing in the finals for sure!

I was a little surprised given their standing in the reg. season, but as they say the playoffs are a complete new "ballgame". To be truthful I didn't really follow the eastern conference during reg. season- too much stuff to keep track of for an old codger.
 

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I was a little surprised given their standing in the reg. season, but as they say the playoffs are a complete new "ballgame". To be truthful I didn't really follow the eastern conference during reg. season- too much stuff to keep track of for an old codger.

The problem with Washington is that they have lost even while they outplayed their opponent. It doesn't help matters that Lundqvist has stood on his head 3 out of 4 games(the 4-0 loss was the only blemish to him).
 

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Washington just have to find a way to get it done, they can't be left behind while
rangers move on, that is unacceptable, and Avery is so sickening and starting to
become completely stupid again, that he shouldn't have the priviledge of continueing playing in these playoffs.
I agree about the first game, that did set a tone and let rangers think they had a
chance.
 

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Boston absolutely schooled Montreal. I think it shows that the Boston of this year is nothing like the Boston of last year. They look like they will be playing in the finals for sure!

Yes, I think the Bruins are the class of the league this year.
It looked like the Habs withered up and died mid game last night.
 

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Yes, I think the Bruins are the class of the league this year.
It looked like the Habs withered up and died mid game last night.

So you figure it's going to come down to Boston vs. the Canucks, with the Canucks winning in what? 5, 6, 7? :lol::lol::lol: Surely not 4 again.:lol:
 

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It's really interesting trying to guess who the canucks will play next. Anaheim just
went ahead 1-0 against San Jose in tonights game,and Calgary and Chicago are tied at 2 games each. Detroit is waiting now just like us, so we'll have to wait till the rest of them
play it out.
 

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Well its 2-0 Anaheim after 2... it looks like the Big Bad Ducks are back. I wonder who's next on Pronger's list? :p Is it just me or does San Jose seem an awful lot like Ottawa over the last couple years: loads of talent but not able to do anything with it in the playoffs?

Calgary is surprising me. I thought they were reeling from all the injuries but they're digging deep and taking it to the 'Hawks. I picked Chicago in 6 but it just might be the Flames (yay!).

Detroit was looking scary until tonight: it looks like Osgood could be hurting. That leaves Ty Conklin to carry the load (remember him, Edmonton?). I've said the last couple years that Detroit had the team D to make anyone look good so this might be the true test :p

Vancouver, you Canuck faithful are gonna disagree with and hate on me but I am still cold on their goalscoring. Luongo is awesome, the D has been great but they're averaging under 3 goals a game in the post season. They NEED to shut everyone else down if they're going to carry on like this. Im not saying its impossible but Luongo will have to take that step to becoming the next Martin Brodeur.
 

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Well its 2-0 Anaheim after 2... it looks like the Big Bad Ducks are back. I wonder who's next on Pronger's list? :p Is it just me or does San Jose seem an awful lot like Ottawa over the last couple years: loads of talent but not able to do anything with it in the playoffs?

Calgary is surprising me. I thought they were reeling from all the injuries but they're digging deep and taking it to the 'Hawks. I picked Chicago in 6 but it just might be the Flames (yay!).

Detroit was looking scary until tonight: it looks like Osgood could be hurting. That leaves Ty Conklin to carry the load (remember him, Edmonton?). I've said the last couple years that Detroit had the team D to make anyone look good so this might be the true test :p

Vancouver, you Canuck faithful are gonna disagree with and hate on me but I am still cold on their goalscoring. Luongo is awesome, the D has been great but they're averaging under 3 goals a game in the post season. They NEED to shut everyone else down if they're going to carry on like this. Im not saying its impossible but Luongo will have to take that step to becoming the next Martin Brodeur.

If canucks are scoring average of 3 per game, and are winning, that shows
a complete team game, a team shouldn't have to score more than 3 to win, and
if they do, it shows that their defense/goalkeeping have weaknesses, and that
includes defensive play from the forwards. Don't forget this is playoffs, not
regular season, everyone raises the level, and the ones who don't, lose.
eg. San Jose
 

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Just watched the last half of the anaheim/san jose game, san jose just doesn't seem to understand play off hockey, their intensity isn't what it should be for
playoffs, especially thornton, as he looks very passive and slow.
Detroit's level dropped considerably tonight, as their goalkeeping dropped, but they
managed to pull out a 6-5 win.
Didn't see pittsburg game, but tv said phillys goaly raised his play, and closed the door.
New Jersey managed a 1-0 win, now the series is 3-2 for N.J.
 

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My guess is Detroit will be playing the Ducks and the Canucks will play Chicago or Calgary which would probably be good as the Canucks would still have H.I.A.
 

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My guess is Detroit will be playing the Ducks and the Canucks will play Chicago or Calgary which would probably be good as the Canucks would still have H.I.A.

It's moving in that direction, as San Jose looks very 'lame', but they aren't dead yet.
I don't really care who we play as far as competition, but Calgary would be nice,
as the travel is very easy, as that does cause wear and tear, just like everything
else, as playoffs go on. Chicago don't look quite so 'sharp' as they were, and
if Calgary can get some consistency, they can win the series, but they haven't
don't that yet, in fact they even change throughout a game, look real good
for a period, then not so good for a period, so I haven't a clue how that will
turn out, might go 7.