Homosexuality
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I gotta leave those for you and JLM. I was thinking maybe a Bible carrying cop with an Indian headdress.
I can see this is a trolling post.. but.. for the record.. about 4 - 6% of Catholic priests in the West are thought to have engaged in some form of homosexual pederasty (which is different than pedophilia).. either in a transient episode or habitually. That means 96 - 94% did not. The incidence is likely less common in the developing world where there are much stronger social strictures against homosexuality.
The Catholic Church could have avoided much of the pain, embarrasment and financial costs.. not to mention the ruined lives.. had they strictly enforced the prohibition of homosexuals in the priesthood. In many cases they did not.. and it allowed a completely uncontrollable and predatory element into the Church.. which ran rampant.
The Armed Forces in the West, which have traditionally been places of honour.. have now made the same mistake. By confusing the intrinsic evil of homosexuality with an innocuous 'lifestyle' characteristic. They will find, like the Catholic Church.. that they have made a deal with the Devil.. and he will bite the hand that feeds its unquenchable lusts and appetites.
A religious vocation.. or an honourable military one for that matter.. is simply irreconcilable with the moral pathology of homosexuality.
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There are no laws.. no rules with homosexuality. Once you have rejected God's law and natural law, no other strictures exist.. except your own gratification. Hence the undermining of marriage.. which is also.. or was.. atleast the eyes of the law.. an honourable estate. Homosexuality respects NO borders.. and respects no other person.
I think, amongst practicing male homosexuals, 25% have had sex with underage boys (the numbers vary, some much higher).. what conclusion would you draw. It's not inevitable but its 10 X and more the incidence amongst heterosexuals. Up to 75% had engaged in homosexuality as underage adolescents.
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Where is that number from - I want to ensure I am reading this correctly- are you stating that 90 % of homosexuals have sexual relations with underage children?
Basically that 90 % of homosexuals are pedophiles.
I revised the number.. the source cited was Kinsey.. which was notoriously sympathetic and unjudgemental of any sexual proclivity.
This is a source with an unsympathetic attitude to homosexuality but citing scientific studies.
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/pro-gay-bias-in-study-of-pedophilia/
This is a source with an unsympathetic attitude to homosexuality but citing scientific studies.
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/pro-gay-bias-in-study-of-pedophilia/
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Found it, it's in Michael Shermer's book How We Believe, page 73. My memory wasn't quite right, it was the National Academy of Sciences, not the AAAS, but I remembered the core fact: "...actual belief in God among eminent scientists (averaged over all fields) drops to a paltry 7 percent."
And what exactly would it be reasonable to expect a scientist to know about religion? Hope a little S.J.P. isn't rubbing off-
Depends if the scientist has examined it critically or not. It would be reasonable to expect a scientist to know the nature and value of evidence and how to assess it, to know good evidence from bad or no evidence, to distinguish testable from untestable claims, recognize and know how to make a properly reasoned argument in support of a claim, and similarly, recognize an improperly reasoned one. .
Okay, so? Results vary depending on what group of scientists is sampled, which would be expected, and the level of religiosity among scientists is consistently much lower than it is among the general population. Like I said.
And what exactly would it be reasonable to expect a scientist to know about religion? Hope a little S.J.P. isn't rubbing off-
what does anyone 'know' about religion, it is a belief, what one thinks he/she knows. Dex is a great
example of a scientific type, knowing lots about what is written about religion, so why wouldn't one expect
other scientists to also have studied and gained knowledge from religious books, and that has nothing to
do with belief.
Science and religion are like two separate pathways or wavelengths. Dogs can hear sounds that humans can't.
a scientist is a human who is capable of a well rounded style of learning, because they are scientists
doesn't make them immune to imagining and wondering and learning, but they also insist on delving
deeply into anything they are learning in a very logical and learned way.
I'm sure there are many religious people who have a rather scientific interest in life as well,
people are just people, we have our limitations and talents.
I don't agree with the doggy view, I can see and read much better than any dog, and certainly don't
want to be able to smell as well as a dog can, yuk.
I don't see that my dogs are religious at all. lol, yep their ears are more sensitive, and their smell,
and it stops there, doesn't tell me anything about the human and religion, but a cute approach all the
same.
The dog has no imagination so they wouldn't parralel any religious person at all. lol
The dog can't reason, they rely on spontanious instinct, call that what you may, the dog depends
on 'us' to guide them and lead them.
Do you think god talks to our dogs, if there could be anything like a god, why wouldn't he/she have
a bit more intelligence and talk to someone who can talk back, or at least understand.
Just send a reasonable clue or a fact and a scientist will be all over it, trying to figure out
if there is any validity to it.
Theres a new kind of proud
Hillbilly proud so throw your hands in the air and let me hear you shout!!!!
Hillbilly proud so throw your hands in the air and let me hear you shout!!!!