Holocaust survivors condemn Israel's Gaza 'genocide'

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ISTANBUL - Turkish shipbuilder Karadeniz Holding plans to send an electricity generating vessel to Gaza to provide urgently needed power in the enclave left reeling by an Israeli bombing campaign that began last month.

Look at that!! A target!!

It is a ridiculous idea, unless a ceasefire (a REAL one) is in place, and the Turks agree to withdraw the ship should hostilities break out again.

Otherwise, the IDF blockade will simply turn it away.
 

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Wonderful article!! Thank you.

Well, we know the Israelis aren't shy about attacking non-combatant ships, that's for sure.

You mean carrying out a planned attack on Israeli soldiers with knives, and iron bars is the act of a non-combatant??

So, what exactly do you have to do to be a combatant??
 

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The BBC don't like me either. Not only because I'm a white, heterosexual, Ukip-supporting, Church of England, able-bodied male (so you can't get lower down than me. I'm scum), but also because I've not been paying the TV licence.

In the United Kingdom and the Crown Dependencies, any household watching or recording live television transmissions as they are being broadcast (terrestrial, satellite, cable, or internet) is required to hold a television licence.

The licence costs £145.50p a year. Income from the licence is primarily used to fund the television, radio and online services of the BBC. The licence fee made up the bulk of the BBC's total income of £5.066 billion in 2013–2014.

However, I've been refusing to pay for my TV licence (which I have got at home but just haven't paid for) as I refuse to pay £145.50p a year for the Left Wing propaganda that the BBC pumps into homes globally on a daily basis. The numpties have sent me threatening letters, but I still refuse to pay. I love annoying the BBC.
 

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Wonderful article!! Thank you.



You mean carrying out a planned attack on Israeli soldiers with knives, and iron bars is the act of a non-combatant??

So, what exactly do you have to do to be a combatant??

Are you a complete moron? They planned an attack on armed Israeli soldiers with knives and iron bars???

Blackleaf is an embarrassment to humanity.

"bbc is so terrible, read this article by the daily mail that explains why"

Look at that!! A target!!

It is a ridiculous idea, unless a ceasefire (a REAL one) is in place, and the Turks agree to withdraw the ship should hostilities break out again.

Otherwise, the IDF blockade will simply turn it away.


Gaza's 1.8 million residents suffer from blackouts for as many as 20 hours a day. The enclave's only power plant is regularly switched off for weeks at a time because of fuel shortages.


No, it's not a ridiculous idea, it's a necessary idea.
 

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So,are you a moron, a liar, a Jew-hater, or all of the above??

Let's see:
I posted a link from a news report and in that OP I made no comments leaning one way or the other. However, I did make the comment towards people who have been through the Holocaust and their children would have a better understanding on what they are talking about compared to someone like you.

So I'm not a liar.

I never once made any comments towards hating Jews at all and during my entire time in these forums I have only directed my hatred towards the actions of the Israeli government and those who support their actions.

So I'm not a Jew-Hater.

I also have a pretty good understanding of the topic in question, as well as the conflict that has been going on for some time now and a good understanding of WWII, not just about the Holocaust, but the Western Front, the Eastern Front, the Battle of the Atlantic, the Pacific Front, etc. etc. My level of understanding of what is being talked about allows me to not have to resort to petty quips that attempt to counter any comment by others as being just "Jew-Haters" or Anti-Semitic, especially when the person who does do this, directs these quips towards actual Jews who apparently are "Jew-Haters" by their standards..... All the while completely ignoring what was actually said.

So I'm not a Moron either.

However, you Colpy, decide to respond to a post about some Holocaust survivors and attack them and their position by calling them liars while at the same time posting a photo taken during the Holocaust as if to educate them and everyone else what the Holocaust was and what Genocide is..... As if they wouldn't fk'n know any better than you, who wasn't even there.

So, are you just a really bad troll, or completely ignorant and blinded to reality and logic, or a fk'n idiot... Or all of the above?

Oh and Blackleaf:

Way to go on Neg Rep'ing the OP.... Guess you don't like news reports that screw your and Colpy's entire position and argument against the evil Muslims while continually trying to use the poor Holocaust Survivors for your arguments of letting Israel do whatever the sweet fk they want.

But hey, unless you believe everything Colpy and Blackleaf tell you without question or debate, you gotta be a Jew-Hater, even the Jews have to be Jew-Haters these days with their logic.

What a fk'n joke.

No wait, let me correct that.... You two are a fk'n joke.

Now go ahead and neg rep my post. That's the only type of counter argument you guys have anyways because you can't think out of your wet paper bag positions to formulate anything worthwhile other than your rehearsed posts you've all repeated dozens of times before.

They've been repeated and parroted so many times, you actually believe them to be true and despite any new information or news to come to light, you plug your ears, cover your eyes and go "Lalalalalalalalalaaa...." Then copy/paste the same crap again and again.

But hey, what do I know?

I and everybody else without a blind Christian-Like faith in what we're told to believe are all Morons anyways. Anybody who tries to think for themselves and formulate their own opinions rather than having their opinions spoon fed to them are morons.

Neg Rep away and prove me right.

...............and the model for George Orwell's Ministry of Truth in his book 1984.

As well as the model for the CBC.

The Table with the Tin Foil Hats is by the door when you walk in.
 

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Wonderful article!! Thank you.



You mean carrying out a planned attack on Israeli soldiers with knives, and iron bars is the act of a non-combatant??

So, what exactly do you have to do to be a combatant??
When did the Turkish generator ship attack Israeli soldiers?
 

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When did the Turkish generator ship attack Israeli soldiers?

It's Israel.... Anybody who doesn't agree with whatever they say or do is attacking them. Anybody who doesn't do as they demand is attacking them. Everybody who isn't licking the corn from their azzhole is attacking them.

Didn't Blackleaf and Colpy make it clear?

Israel can do, attack, invade, detain and kill whoever they want, whenever they want.

And when the world raises an eyebrow, Israel says they didn't deliberately do anything or harm anybody.... They'll "Investigate" the issue and let us all know their findings.... Sometime after they toss the issue into a brown folder and stick it under an unlevel desk's leg to be forgotten about like all the other incidences.
 

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Israel's whole strategy is to target civilians and the infrastructure, it's quite blatant. Yes, rockets may have been fired from those civilian areas, but Israel is responding as long as 24 hours afterwards when the perpetrators are long gone and only innocent civilians are in the area. You don't think Israel knows this? How is this even an intelligent strategy? Well it's not but that doesn't matter, because the goal is to leave Gaza in rubble and inflict much civilian misery as possible.
 

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And when the world raises an eyebrow, Israel says they didn't deliberately do anything or harm anybody.... They'll "Investigate" the issue and let us all know their findings.... Sometime after they toss the issue into a brown folder and stick it under an unlevel desk's leg to be forgotten about like all the other incidences.
To be fair, what usually happens is that when anybody raises an eyebrow, Israel starts screaming "Anti-Semite! Holocaust! Nazis!" Because anyone who questions the perfection of Israel is obviously a Nazi.
 

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Israel's whole strategy is to target civilians and the infrastructure, it's quite blatant. Yes, rockets may have been fired from those civilian areas, but Israel is responding as long as 24 hours afterwards when the perpetrators are long gone and only innocent civilians are in the area. You don't think Israel knows this? How is this even an intelligent strategy? Well it's not but that doesn't matter, because the goal is to leave Gaza in rubble and inflict much civilian misery as possible.
Your delusions are only surpassed by your absolute stupidity..................................
 

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Yeah.

Not survivors, most of them, but descendents of survivors, that never knew the horror of the Holocaust.

That's fine. They have every right to their opinion, no matter how wrong it is.

They have every right to lie and misrepresent.........which they do in spades.

THERE IS NO GENOCIDE IN GAZA.

THIS is a gentle pic of genocide: all these people are doomed:



THIS is genocide:

Six million dead in 4 years. (1941, when the "final solution" was decided on, and the end of the war in 1945) 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe murdered.

THIS is NOT genocide:

A population that quadruples in 40 years, without immigration.

An area with a life expectancy at birth HIGHER than its Arab neighbors, and in which 5 weeks of war have killed less than 2500 people.

Anyone that claims there is a "genocide" is a ****ing moron, a liar, a Jew hater, or all of the above.

Take your pick.

Colpy that is just garbage. Disagreeing with you doesn't make anyone a Jew Hater. Harken back to 1948 when Isreal was first formed. Remember the borders of that country? Those initial borders lasted for only a month or two. Back when Isreal was formed Arabs out numbered the Jews by a huge margin in Palestine....Not anymore. Where is Palestine now? It doesn't exist. Remember the Golen Heights? It's part of Isreal. A huge number of Palestinians have been forced into refugee camps and who knows what goes on in those camps.
 

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Colpy that is just garbage. Disagreeing with you doesn't make anyone a Jew Hater. Harken back to 1948 when Isreal was first formed. Remember the borders of that country? Those initial borders lasted for only a month or two. Back when Isreal was formed Arabs out numbered the Jews by a huge margin in Palestine....Not anymore. Where is Palestine now? It doesn't exist. Remember the Golen Heights? It's part of Isreal. A huge number of Palestinians have been forced into refugee camps and who knows what goes on in those camps.

It is not disagreeing with me that makes them Jew-haters.

It is smearing the only democracy in the area with an accusation that is not only ludicrous, but absolutely offensive when aimed at a people that have undergone 1,000 years of REAL genocide after genocide after genocide.

It is a blatant attempt to instill Jew-hatred in the minds of the ignorant.

"Palestine" was NEVER a country. The area you call Palestine was occupied by the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years, and then, after World War One, by Britain and France. Most of the nations in the area between Turkey and Egypt are constructs established by those two nations redrawing the map..........and the Jews were promised a nation as well.

I guess if the Arabs wanted Israel to remain tiny and peaceful, they shouldn't have invaded them immediately on the creation of the nation, and they shouldn't have tried to wipe them out over and over.

The Golan Heights were won with blood in a defensive war, and are essential to the security of Israel. Had Israel not held the Golan Heights in 1973, the nation would have ceased to exist.

Why is it OK for European nations to redraw the map of the world for convenience based on military victory, but forbidden for Israel to claim land essential to their survival?? Israel exists on 0.67% of the Arabian Peninsula..........the other 99.3% is ARAB, and that entire Peninsula is only a part of the Muslim world.

I'll tell you what goes on in the refugee camps. The ARABS treat the refugees like dirt, many countries refusing to allow then to own land, live outside the refugee camps, practice many professions....in other words, the ARABS practice the very "apartheid" that Israel is accused of..........while Arab Israelis enjoy full legal rights.

Oh, and after 1948 an equal number of Jews (750,000 at least) were driven from Muslim nations. Where are their refugee camps??
Where is the UN agency devoted to their well-being?? What about their "right of return"??

The fact is that the Israelis are the good guys, our allies, the frontier of western civilization in a land of psychotic Islamist looney states .
 

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volume warning..

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In light of continued aggression on the Gaza Strip .. Israeli army planes bombed the entire residential tower consisting of 14 floors and was completely destroyed
You are really obsessed, you can't even analyze a demolition.....It's not a bombing you fool..
In the second camera angle, it's obvious that the video camera is on a tripod because there was no camera movement during the explosion.......obvious set-up.....so how did they know that planes were gonna bomb that particular building....
Gawd, you're gullible when it comes to Gaza.....
 

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It's their "knock on the roof" warning first.. How nice of them to warn them first... "Hey better go find new homes, who cares if you have nowhere to go we're about to make a bunch of people homeless cause Hamas possibly fired a rocket nearby a day or 2 ago"
 

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Bloody swivel-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth, rabid, loony anti-Semites. Somebody call Rentokil.



It's their "knock on the roof" warning first.. How nice of them to warn them first... "Hey better go find new homes, who cares if you have nowhere to go we're about to make a bunch of people homeless cause Hamas possibly fired a rocket nearby a day or 2 ago"


Bigot.
 

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It's their "knock on the roof" warning first.. How nice of them to warn them first... "Hey better go find new homes, who cares if you have nowhere to go we're about to make a bunch of people homeless cause Hamas possibly fired a rocket nearby a day or 2 ago"

Very odd type of "genocide"., don't you think???