High school student suspended, arrested for saying only 2 genders (Canada)

Taxslave2

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I do have some questions about the veracity of the Toronto Sun. This was, after all, the paper that reported that a kid was arrested for saying there were only two genders, when in point of fact he was arrested for trespassing.
Missing the fact that the reason he was kicked out was for stating a fact that some snowflake didn't like.
 

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Missing the fact that the reason he was kicked out was for stating a fact that some snowflake didn't like.
Just as you missed the fact that he was not arrested for his statement, which is a right, but for his action, the crime of trespass.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to whimper about how oppressed y'all are.
 
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Snowflake? Or science?

So if he denied evolution, gravity or anything else, should he still be left to be in school to spread such BS?
As a Student or as a Teacher?

In this case, he’s kicked out because of his beliefs as a student. It’s not like he’s teaching others….He and the other students are there to learn if they’re not kicked out for their beliefs.

They don’t kick hard-core Christians out of school because they don’t believe in dinosaurs, do they? “I believe the world is only 6000 years old.” (?)

“Well sorry there little Johnny, but there is empirical evidence that the world is a little older than 6000 years and that’s what I’m teaching” would say the Teacher, under normal circumstances I’m assuming, & then the teacher would present the empirical evidence…. And then they go onto spelling, and then they go onto arithmetic, etc…
 
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As a Student or as a Teacher?

In this case, he’s kicked out because of his beliefs as a student. It’s not like he’s teaching others….He and the other students are there to learn if they’re not kicked out for their beliefs.

They don’t kick hard-core Christians out of school because they don’t believe in dinosaurs, do they? “I believe the world is only 6000 years old.” (?)

“Well sorry there little Johnny, but there is empirical evidence that the world is a little older than 6000 years and that’s what I’m teaching” would say the Teacher, under normal circumstances I’m assuming, & then the teacher would present the empirical evidence…. And then they go onto spelling, and then they go onto arithmetic, etc…

Valid counter-point.

I would think that a student who kept professing publicly that "No, the Earth is only 6000 years old" would have issues, for example.

But as been pointed out, he wasn't arrested for his 'beliefs', but trespass.

So even if Hypothetical student of 6000 years was told to leave, came back and still professed that belief, the school would, as with this student, have every right to get that kid arrested for trespass.
 

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A kid gets arrested for showing up at school after being suspended for a T shirt?

No freedom of thought or speech. Its all bolshevik.
Precisely. Not sure about Canada, but in the U.S. schools are in loco parentis. The rights of students are roughly the same as the rights of minor children with respect to their parents. That's why they're not allowed to come to school armed (for now).
 

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I'll accept that in Canaduh, it's all one-way: freedom-loving Cons who grant freedom and love to schoolkids without regard to what they're saying or doing, and Nazi-Commie Kenyan Muslim Soshulists oppressing good, decent White kids. Hell, what do I know? I've never been in a Canadian school.

Down hereabouts, though, it goes in all directions.

Growing up, Marielle Williamson was grossed out by milk. What she learned about animal agriculture made her uncomfortable. Why, she wondered, were we consuming the breast milk of another animal?

But when the 17-year-old tried to distribute literature sharing her views promoting nondairy milk at her Los Angeles high school, she says, administrators responded that it wasn’t allowed unless she extolled the virtues of cow’s dairy, too. Pro-dairy “Got Milk?” messages were already plastered across the hallways and even repeated on the morning announcements, she said. The directive felt like a violation of her First Amendment rights. So she sued the school district and the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees federal school meals policy.

“By compelling Marielle to simultaneously distribute the dairy misinformation that she seeks to refute, District Defendants have violated Marielle’s free speech rights,” her lawyers argued in the suit filed May 2 in District Court with the nonprofit Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine as a co-plaintiff. “More than that, [the defendants] have laid bare the extent to which [USDA] treats dairy as sacrosanct, both as a matter of law and policy.”

The USDA and the Los Angeles Unified School District declined to comment on ongoing litigation.
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Or, as Heinlein put it:

"A man wouldn't go into school teaching if he didn't enjoy exercising cheap authority. It's the natural profession of little Napoleons."
--RAH, Red Planet

Leastways that's how it is down hereabouts. I'm sure it's different in Canaduh, where there is only pure good and pure eee-vil.
 

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Growing up, Marielle Williamson was grossed out by milk. What she learned about animal agriculture made her uncomfortable. Why, she wondered, were we consuming the breast milk of another animal?
Pernam et caseum.

Its called a mutually beneficial relationship.

Has the kid ever seen what a cow would have to endure living in the wild without the benefit of a human owner?
 
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