Hey guess what...Quebec wants to separate again

[tober]

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan

The sad reality is that an organized few are speaking on behalf of the province... There comes a time when ambivalence and passiveness qualifies as support.

In that regard, if those that oppose separation do not feel a responsibility to take action, it's essentially the same as support
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You can apply that to the whole country. 40% regularly dont vote at all. Thats a huge chunk of the population.

Yeah, but next election you start over. You can't do that after separation. We should not let 49% of Canadians be disenfranchised because a small group of francophone power seekers want to become national leaders on the backs of a bunch of malcontents. The malcontents will still be unhappy wherever they are.

Yep- Problem with that?

Not at all, Yank.

 

[no color]

Yep, there are indeed many folks in Quebec who want to separate from Canada. However, these folks need to remember that if Canada is divisible, then so is Quebec. We are dealing with a double edged sword here.

If the separatists were to ever win a referendum on separation, then I believe that Montreal would in due time hold it's own referendum asking residents if they are in favor of separating from Quebec and remaining within Canada. The votes are clearly there, so Montreal would remain in Canada. This would most likely create a volatile situation. A civil war would not be out of the question. The Canadian Armed Forces would surely be engaged. The Americans would have legitimate concerns that any civil unrest would destabilize the region, and would most likely get involved in any conflict. Not to mention the natives.

So yeah, although many Quebeckers would like to separate from Canada, many of those would vote against it as they would envision a doomsday scenario that could trigger a civil war comparable with Belfast.

 

[tober]

Goober is an old Army term

Perhaps you should have chosen -BOHICA - Judging by the replies to your posts it is more than appropriate.

There is a US Civil War song called "Goober Peas". The most common usage is a US slang term for a hick from peanut country. Goober | Define Goober at Dictionary.com

 

[Goober]

There is a US Civil War song called "Goober Peas". The most common usage is a US slang term for a hick from peanut country. Goober | Define Goober at Dictionary.com

BOHICA- Good, I see that you are ready, oops, get those hands properly placed, now spread. Good.
Wrong again.

 

[CDNBear]

Wrong again.

That seems to be a habit of his.

 

[Angstrom]

Harper is deliberately pushing Quebec in this direction. Harper wants to destroy The federal government.
Alberta will be next in line to go. He is perfectly orchestrating this.

 

[tober]

Ok then, prove that marines have killed blacks and hispanics, and I don't mean one offs that can easily be attributed to some person that is/was in the marine corp and went off the deep end.

They cannot be used within the US because of the US doctrine called Posse Comitatus. Everywhere they've gone in the rest of the world their record is atrocious. Read Wicki-Leaks. Read the Pentagon Papers. Proof? I can't prove the Holocaust either but I believe it. Time you started acknowledging there is a world that others know about the same as you know about Aboriginal history.

 

[Angstrom]

One end result of all of this I would not be to mad about would be if it ends up being a vote for, less power to the federal government, and more responsibility to every province. That I'd be happy with.

Realistically I think that's what Harper wants too.

 

[Locutus]

... microphallus

Word of the day.

 

[tober]

BOKICA - get ready.
The Laws on Aboriginal ( First Nations) land title, claims and such are constantly evolving, slowly, much to slowly. One factor is the treaty signed. Another is the acceptance of Oral History as admissible testimony. It is still ongoing and will for many more years.
The case you quote is really not relevant.
Now you can adopt the erect position. No, stand up straight is what I meant. My God man.

Your argument proves what? You have made some political assertions but they do not establish any issue in question. No doubt I've punctured your shallow reservoir of political correctness. Sorry, son.

Only someone with microphallus issues has this much anger.

Typical Yank reverts to sexual name calling. You're a real son of your culture.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

 

[gerryh]

They cannot be used within the US because of the US doctrine called Posse Comitatus. Everywhere they've gone in the rest of the world their record is atrocious. Read Wicki-Leaks. Read the Pentagon Papers. Proof? I can't prove the Holocaust either but I believe it. Time you started acknowledging there is a world that others know about the same as you know about Aboriginal history.

You made the statement, now back it up. When I say that the u.s. armed forces bombed a wedding and killed innocents, or bombed Canadian soldiers while they were on maneuvers, I can back it up and do.

 

[CDNBear]

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Ya, that pretty much sums up all your posts.

You should save the typing and just post that pic instead.

 

[tober]

Harper been shafting Quebec since he's won his majority government. Maybe even before that. Quebec owns a great many of the cheese quota in Canada farming system. A monopoly they are about to lose.

You have a problem with relieving the rest of Canada from a provincial monopoly over a basic food product? Care to explain why that's a bad thing, preventing westerners from having to pay to ship cheese across Canada?

Guess what, dummy, life for europeans during that same time was "short, nasty, and brutish".

You do insist on name calling, eh? May I call you chief? Take it up with the judge; it's not my problem.

BOHICA- Adopt the position. No, a proper 270 degrees man, from the waist man. Good, now you are prepared.

Delgamuukw v. British Columbia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Supreme Court made no decision on the land dispute, insisting that another trial was necessary. Specifically, [at paragraph 74 of the Court's decision] the Court held, "I reject the submission with respect to the substitution of aboriginal title and the self-government for the original claims of ownership and jurisdiction....[paragraph 75] The content of common law aboriginal title, for example, has not been authoritatively determined by this Court...[paragraph 77] This defect in the pleadings prevents this Court from considering the merits of this appeal."

The legal significance of those passages is that the Indian "Interest" within the meaning of section 109 of the Constitution Act, 1867, was not involved in the appeal. Section 109 is the section that says the Crown's CONSTITUTIONAL "Interest" is subject to the Indian CONSTITUTIONAL "Interest" so long as the Indian "Interest" has not been sold to the Crown by a valid treaty. It confirms that Indian sovereignty, i.e., exclusive jurisdiction and sole possession, is the supreme law of the land pending treaty and, correspondingly, establishes the utter irrelevance of Crown Parliamentary legislation and Crown court recent inventions based upon the "common law".

It is widely held that "The ruling also made important statements about the legitimacy of Indigenous oral history ruling that oral histories were just as important as written testimony.[6] [7]

What's your point? That you knew how to find the case after I told you? Any Yank can do that. Nothing in your cut and paste addresses anything you and I are debating. Another triumph Colpy-style?

BOHICA- Yes again, good you have adopted the proper position, you knew it was coming and prepared yourself. Good. Here she comes.

First Nations rights have to be respected, the law of the land, in the event Quebec ever decided to separate.
You do believe in the rule of law??

So what? You wanna start a thread on F/N rights go ahead.

 

[CDNBear]

Another triumph Colpy-style?

Is that the style in which someone thoroughly proves you wrong and you go babbling about how they didn't and/or you change the topic or say you aren't discussing this or that?

 

[tober]

You made the statement, now back it up.

Oh yassuh, yassuh mastah. LMAO.

When I say that the u.s. armed forces bombed a wedding and killed innocents, or bombed Canadian soldiers while they were on maneuvers, I can back it up and do.

I didn't say US Marines did those things in the US. I said they kill black and Hispanic children, which they have done and its on the public record. The entire US military is full of atrocities, more than any western nation since the Nazis. Please do your own research.

You always provide authorities? In your dreams, you bullsh!tter.

 

[taxslave]

Save your breath, I actually proved all that to him a long time ago, he even conceded.

But here we are, right back at the beginning. Proving of course what everyone suspects, lol.

Do you supose his parents know he is playing on the computer again?

 

[CDNBear]

I didn't say US Marines did those things in the US. I said they kill black and Hispanic children, which they have done.

That's great, but you said 'still'...

What's the matter, Yank? Y'all aren't runnin' outta ammo yet. Lots of baby blacks and Hispanics left for the killin' by big, brave US Marines. Y'all glory in it.

Sort of puts it in the present.

You can always just say you misspoke if you can actually muster that kind of maturity.

 

[gerryh]

I didn't say US Marines did those things in the US. I said they kill black and Hispanic children, which they have done.

You always provide authorities? In your dreams, you bullsh!tter.

when asked, I do. Now I am asking you to "provide authorities". If you can't, then you are the bullshyter.

 

[tober]

when asked, I do. Now I am asking you to "provide authorities". If you can't, then you are the bullshyter.

I'm not going to provide authorities for something I didn't say. Time for you to stop being a name caller. You are butting into a discussion that is between two people not including you, and which is irrelevant to the thread.

 

[gerryh]

. I said they kill black and Hispanic children, which they have done and its on the public record. The entire US military is full of atrocities, more than any western nation since the Nazis. Please do your own research.

You always provide authorities? In your dreams, you bullsh!tter.

I'm not going to provide authorities for something I didn't say. Time for you to stop being a name caller. You are butting into a discussion that is between two people not including you, and which is irrelevant to the thread.

There ya go, now you said it, now back it up.