Hey guess what...Quebec wants to separate again

gerryh

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If you want your opinion respected perhaps you should respect others.


Ok then, prove that marines have killed blacks and hispanics, and I don't mean one offs that can easily be attributed to some person that is/was in the marine corp and went off the deep end.
 

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Ok then, prove that marines have killed blacks and hispanics, and I don't mean one offs that can easily be attributed to some person that is/was in the marine corp and went off the deep end.
I wish you the best of luck with that, lol.
 

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Anyone can call names. My description comes from the BC Supreme Court decision in the case that lead to the Nishgaa Land Claim settlement - Delgaamuk v Canada I think it was called although my spelling is likely wrong. Show why you think I am wrong.
BOKICA - get ready.
The Laws on Aboriginal ( First Nations) land title, claims and such are constantly evolving, slowly, much to slowly. One factor is the treaty signed. Another is the acceptance of Oral History as admissible testimony. It is still ongoing and will for many more years.
The case you quote is really not relevant.
Now you can adopt the erect position. No, stand up straight is what I meant. My God man.
 

DaSleeper

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Northern Ontario,
I think you need to change your avatar when talking to a few here......
Might I suggest this one?
 

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You do know that Canada does export deadwood. Might I suggest you apply for an export permit.

You claim to be Canadian but you don't know the quote from the BC Land Claims case where the Chief Justice of BC called native life prior to European settlement "short, nasty and brutish"? You're another Yank - you even use their flag as your avatar. You think like a Yank. The judge's statement wasn't political or racist. It was a flat statement of adjudicated fact based on evidence. You are trying to float a criticism without thinking it through. Take it up with the judge.
 

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Harper been shafting Quebec since he's won his majority government. Maybe even before that.

First time I caught wind of it was few years ago when Mr. Harper funded billions to New Brunswick for those huge power plants. Undermining Quebec Hydro contracts with the United States. And now with the free trade agreement with Europe. Quebec owns a great many of the cheese quota in Canada farming system. A monopoly they are about to lose. Emperor Harper is proceeding with his end game. This is exactly what they have been wanting all along.... Our Quebec friends are walking into a trap!!! A carefully planned trick by our good friends the Albertans. Who will likely be more then happy to open the books on how cecessation procedures will be established., for them to walk down that very same road.


Well done Mr Harper..... Very well done.
 
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gerryh

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You claim to be Canadian but you don't know the quote from the BC Land Claims case where the Chief Justice of BC called native life prior to European settlement "short, nasty and brutish"? You're another Yank - you even use their flag as your avatar. You think like a Yank. The judge's statement wasn't political or racist. It was a flat statement of adjudicated fact based on evidence. You are trying to float a criticism without thinking it through. Take it up with the judge.


Guess what, dummy, life for europeans during that same time was "short, nasty, and brutish".
 

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You claim to be Canadian but you don't know the quote from the BC Land Claims case where the Chief Justice of BC called native life prior to European settlement "short, nasty and brutish"? You're another Yank - you even use their flag as your avatar. You think like a Yank. The judge's statement wasn't political or racist. It was a flat statement of adjudicated fact based on evidence. You are trying to float a criticism without thinking it through. Take it up with the judge.

BOHICA- Adopt the position. No, a proper 270 degrees man, from the waist man. Good, now you are prepared.

Delgamuukw v. British Columbia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Supreme Court made no decision on the land dispute, insisting that another trial was necessary. Specifically, [at paragraph 74 of the Court's decision] the Court held, "I reject the submission with respect to the substitution of aboriginal title and the self-government for the original claims of ownership and jurisdiction....[paragraph 75] The content of common law aboriginal title, for example, has not been authoritatively determined by this Court...[paragraph 77] This defect in the pleadings prevents this Court from considering the merits of this appeal."

The legal significance of those passages is that the Indian "Interest" within the meaning of section 109 of the Constitution Act, 1867, was not involved in the appeal. Section 109 is the section that says the Crown's CONSTITUTIONAL "Interest" is subject to the Indian CONSTITUTIONAL "Interest" so long as the Indian "Interest" has not been sold to the Crown by a valid treaty. It confirms that Indian sovereignty, i.e., exclusive jurisdiction and sole possession, is the supreme law of the land pending treaty and, correspondingly, establishes the utter irrelevance of Crown Parliamentary legislation and Crown court recent inventions based upon the "common law".

It is widely held that "The ruling also made important statements about the legitimacy of Indigenous oral history ruling that oral histories were just as important as written testimony.[6] [7]
 

tober

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You hate Americans, all 300 million plus

That's not true and I've said so several times. Hate is far too strong. Do you really think anybody here is worth hating? Sad, man. You just rant but never focus on the actual issue. I distrust and fear fascist America. That is an entirely different notion from hating all Americans. Today I am criticizing a couple of Yanks who are trying to tell Canada what to do about Quebec. That includes you. You can't use a Yank name and fly the Yank flag, then the first time it gets uncomfortable claim to be Canadian. You could be in Pakistan for all we know, but I choose to believe what you said before today. Today you're just trying to pull our p!ssers.

, no use at all for First Nations.

Bullsh!t. Evidence? You have none.

Canada's treatment of First Nations has been horrid,including Genocide, and Canada is still at the disgusting level in the treatment of FN Peoples. And yet you claim to be a rational, caring and compassionate person.
Really.

Still name calling and calling people disgusting if you disagree with them politically, I see. Au revoir, young fellow.
 

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The "indians" were never "conquered". The Crown made treaties and promises for land. The Crown has broken the majority of those treaties and promises. At no time have the "indians" ceded their sovereignty.

So what? This thread isn't about that. Go start a native rights thread.

BTW, what do you think land claims settlements and treaties are?

I think you are confusing Goober with Gopher. Gopher is from Minnesota, Goober is from Alberta, I think.

He's flying the Yank flag as his avatar. He can't go east and west at the same time. He wants to be a Yank until the debate gets to Canada? Tough. He's Yank now too. You can't trust a turncoat.
 

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So what? This thread isn't about that. Go start a native rights thread.

BOHICA- Yes again, good you have adopted the proper position, you knew it was coming and prepared yourself. Good. Here she comes.

First Nations rights have to be respected, the law of the land, in the event Quebec ever decided to separate.
You do believe in the rule of law??
 

CDNBear

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BTW, what do you think land claims settlements and treaties are?
Since I see where you're going and I love embarrassing people like you...

Ceding title to land isn't ceding sovereignty.

He's flying the Yank flag as his avatar. He can't go east and west at the same time. He wants to be a Yank until the debate gets to Canada? Tough. He's Yank now too. You can't trust a turncoat.
Ummm...

Still name calling and calling people disgusting if you disagree with them politically, I see. Au revoir, young fellow.

 

gerryh

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Since I see where you're going and I love embarrassing people like you...

Ceding title to land isn't ceding sovereignty.


Thank you for answering that. I know he has been referring to the Nisga'a treaty so I was double checking and making sure I had it right that they had NOT ceded their sovereignty, and no, they did not.
 

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Thank you for answering that. I know he has been referring to the Nisga'a treaty so I was double checking and making sure I had it right that they had NOT ceded their sovereignty, and no, they did not.
It's a sticking for incorporating a rez, people see it as ceding their sovereignty.

I think hunboldt, tuber and PN are sharing a brain. It's the best explanation I can muster for the similar stupidity contained in their posts.