Hati gets a penny of each U.S. aid dollar
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Hati is already old news. They're being ground into even finer dust while we Canadians squander hundreds of millions on GAMES. The Olympics should have been cancelled and all the useless track stars sent to Hati to show us their atheletic prowess. I'm ashamed to be Canadian, over two-hundred thousand dead and the rest starving under military occupation and we will play games. 40 million pissed into the wind for the goddamn opening show. Excuse me I have to puke on the flag.
DB that was your most idiotic post yet. Let's curtail all other activities and ship even more people to Haiti even though they are tripping over each other now. Let's tear our clothes off and sent them to Haiti. For God's sake aircraft are stacked up over Haiti and have to reserve a time to land. What the hell has Canada done to make you ashamed? Canada is not to blame for the corrupt Haitian government that enabled this disaster to happen. Canada had aid workers in Haiti before this damned earthquake happened and some were killed. Give your head a shake DB, your brain is settling to the bottom. I'm ashamed of you.
Yep, I think that post is a little strong, at the same time I can see what he's driving at in a misguided sort of way. Because of Haiti's disaster, should we quit having fun? NO. I think Canadians have probably contributed quite well towards Haiti's recovery. DB, perhaps has the impression that Canadians (probably the luckiest and most affluent society) take for granted the wealth and good fortune we have. Perhaps you and DB can both move toward a happy medium...............:smile:
That headline is very misleading (actually bullsh*t) That is the cash amount. Generators, soap and tooth paste still count as aid. It's criminal how news can be made out of nothing. 8O8O
Hati is not a natural disaster and Canada has contributed to Hatian misery for years, and we continue to make Hati available to corporate slavers. What sane person witnesses a massive military occupation and calls it aid? The same clowns who think Iraq has been emancipated and Afghanistan is being democratized. Canada has been screwing the Hatian people for decades. The story book Canada I grew up in, never existed.
JLM was totally correct when he opined, responding to darkbeaver's post:
''That headline is very misleading (actually bullsh*t) That is the cash amount. Generators, soap and tooth paste still count as aid. It's criminal how news can be made out of nothing. :shock::shock:"
With sufficient ill will and malice even the most generous act of charity can be twisted into an act of selfish greed.
''That headline is very misleading (actually bullsh*t) That is the cash amount. Generators, soap and tooth paste still count as aid. It's criminal how news can be made out of nothing. :shock::shock:"
With sufficient ill will and malice even the most generous act of charity can be twisted into an act of selfish greed.
Canada has played a pivotal role in the installation of successive corrupt Hatian governments so spare me your indignation.
With sufficient duplicity and deceit even dog **** can be twisted into chocolate pudding. Canada has become a nation of carpet bagging flesh peddlers.
I disagree ES. I am very patriotic or I wouldn't be pissed about my countries plunge into the international toilet right behind yours.
Bull!!!
Haiti is perched on the western third of Hispaniola Island, which it shares with the Dominican Republic. When planes fly over, passengers can see the border: the Dominican side is lush and green, while the Haitian side is dull and brown. Rampant deforestation — to make charcoal so people can cook without electricity — worsens the natural disasters that hit the island every year, allowing flooding and landslides to flow unabated. In 2008, for example, four hurricanes killed 800 people, left thousands homeless and caused $1 billion in damage.
Canada alone pledged more than $14 million to help with disaster relief from 2001 to 2015, part of the $555 million allocated to the country between 2006 and 2011. That makes Haiti Canada's second-largest aid recipient, just after Afghanistan. The only country that receives more financial aid is the one to which Canada has committed a large part of its Armed Forces.
In Haiti, the amount of money committed seems to far outweigh the number of personnel. Although there are 9,000 peacekeepers there as part of MINUSTAH, the UN mission in Haiti, it is Brazil that commands the force. Canada supplies four officers, plus 87 police officers to train the Haitian National Police and eight corrections workers to mentor justice system workers. All this despite having no obvious security issues in the country and no historic link. International aid experts say that this is exactly why it's important that Canada is involved.
"Canada is by far the most welcome in the country because you're not tainted by history," says Paul Collier, an Oxford University economics professor, author of The Bottom Billion and a report on Haiti to UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon. "So you've got a very important leadership role. The Haitian government in a way, sort of trusts you more, and is comfortable in a way it's not comfortable with the others."
I'm not going bury you under hundreds of hacked & glued articles #Juan. The reason Hati has been raped over and over for a hundred years are a matter of historical record. Canadas interests in Hati are corporate and have nothing to do with humanitarian aid. The Hatians have for all that time wanted self rule and gotten nothing but abuse and slavery and death from the so called developed world. Ban Ki Moon never met a asshole he didn't lick and neither did that other useless bag of snot Collier, an economist for christ sake, how freaking much are they worth a pound these days?
With that resume it would seem that we should shy away from direct contact, rather than send the same help we have in the past (corruption basically) donate just money and materials.
Haiti could then hire countries from the area (other than the US) to do the (labor) needed repairs and install all the modern convinces (from the industrialized countries) they have been denied that makes sitting around with not much to do more entertaining, like the internet so they can follow threads such as this one.
Use the UN to help set policy concerning natural resources with the stipulation that the developer (foreign company) that comes up with an offer that best suits the locals is the one that gets the contract. Build it and then let the locals do the maintenance and upgrades.
So in reality from our past we should contribute lots but because of our past we should be involved as little as possible.
Venezuela sooner or later has to solve the problems of their 'slums'. Designing and building in Haiti's hills would also be the same solution to their problem at home. A steel-framework anchored to the hills and shipping containers used as a base for the new neighborhood.
Canada could supply some of the parts and maybe the cranes needed for such operations. Selling those items would help recover costs (after the free demonstration in Haiti)
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Spoken like a true communist.
82,000 Haitians living in Canada. Obviously all slaves
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The reason for the color difference is most likely the deforestation is a demand that is in line with food production. Most of the prime land is used for exportable products, that income is used to pay the banks mainly. Canada and France are buddies, Canada certainly said squat about Haiti being saddled with a debt that Canada never was when 'we broke free'. Under the same conditions what price would Canada have owed France for Quebec?
200 years to pay off a debt, 1950 was about when it was paid off. Haiti should be able to say 'just the material goods thanks' to any country that doesn't say that deal was nothing but robbery.