Harper's Pro-Israeli stance compared to other nations
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Harper is such a lapdog to the Americans, who are shills to the hugely and disproportionately influential Israel political lobby in America.
Where is the balance in this, specifically in recognizing the constant inflaming and exploiting of the Palestinians by bottling up Gaza in economic stagnation.. and especially in systematically colonizing the West Bank with the clear intent of incorporating it into a Greater Israel.
Stephen, you and your government are an embarrasment.. weak, imcompetent twits.. barking and pawing at the heels of your American masters (and Wall Street bankers).
Where is the balance in this, specifically in recognizing the constant inflaming and exploiting of the Palestinians by bottling up Gaza in economic stagnation.. and especially in systematically colonizing the West Bank with the clear intent of incorporating it into a Greater Israel.
Stephen, you and your government are an embarrasment.. weak, imcompetent twits.. barking and pawing at the heels of your American masters (and Wall Street bankers).
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I think it's determined in Washington.. Obama's snarling little, not too bright poodle.. is Harper. But Obama's policy is determined on Wall Street.. and that has always been pro Israel.
Israel has been allowed virtually a free hand in brutally suppressing Palestinian nationalism by way of two major demographic lobbies in the U.S. They are the wealthy Jewish political lobby, erstwhile liberals, but emphatically pro Israel. And Evangelical Christians, erstwhile conservatives.. but religious fundamentalists who view Israel as realization of Biblical prophesy.. and harbinger of the End Times.
That's the reason why the U.S. bankrolls the Israeli military to the tune of $3 billion a year, and methodically undercuts Palestinian attempts at national recognition.
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Let Palestine have it's natural gas resources and they can buy out the settlements at cost of development or does Israel have plans for their gas?
There are Trillions of $ off the Gaza coastline.
There are Trillions of $ off the Gaza coastline.
I was thinking that it won't be long until some idiots blame Israel for the downing of MH17.
And then this happened:
From the Daily Mail:
Did Israel mastermind the shoot down to divert world's gaze from its assault on Gaza?
Some people even took to MailOnline's own comment section to expound their hypotheses.
'Benji', from London wrote: 'Did Israel have something to do with it? It's incredibly convenient for the government of Israel that the day before they launch their ground attack on Gaza.
'World attention and media coverage has been diverted from that to this MH17 incident. Could Israel be behind it so they can launch their attack on Palestine, and the inevitable deaths of hundreds of civilians that is likely to come with it, without international media and governmental scrutiny?? hmmmmm.'
Benji didn't stand alone in his analysis today. Max Weedon added on Twitter: 'Missile downs flight #MH17 over Ukraine; Israel begins ground offensive against Hamas. Are the two linked?'
Comrades in alarm: Benji didn't stand alone in his analysis today
This is just one of several bizarre conspiracy theories doing the rounds on the World Wide Web about the MH17 disaster. Other theories state that it was the work of the Illuiminati; that someone was trying to assassinate Putin, whose plane supposedly took the same route not long before; that it was a hoax; that Christine Lagarde was the mastermind; and that, rather eerily, it was the same Malaysian airlines plane that disappeared back in March.
Read more: MH17 conspiracy theories begin to appear on the internet | Mail Online
And then this happened:
From the Daily Mail:
Did Israel mastermind the shoot down to divert world's gaze from its assault on Gaza?
Some people even took to MailOnline's own comment section to expound their hypotheses.
'Benji', from London wrote: 'Did Israel have something to do with it? It's incredibly convenient for the government of Israel that the day before they launch their ground attack on Gaza.
'World attention and media coverage has been diverted from that to this MH17 incident. Could Israel be behind it so they can launch their attack on Palestine, and the inevitable deaths of hundreds of civilians that is likely to come with it, without international media and governmental scrutiny?? hmmmmm.'
Benji didn't stand alone in his analysis today. Max Weedon added on Twitter: 'Missile downs flight #MH17 over Ukraine; Israel begins ground offensive against Hamas. Are the two linked?'
Comrades in alarm: Benji didn't stand alone in his analysis today
This is just one of several bizarre conspiracy theories doing the rounds on the World Wide Web about the MH17 disaster. Other theories state that it was the work of the Illuiminati; that someone was trying to assassinate Putin, whose plane supposedly took the same route not long before; that it was a hoax; that Christine Lagarde was the mastermind; and that, rather eerily, it was the same Malaysian airlines plane that disappeared back in March.
Read more: MH17 conspiracy theories begin to appear on the internet | Mail Online
Are you claiming to be 'special'?' Mental' was the only word left after I read your post.
. . . I'm on hold, I'm trying to get permission from them so I can ask Ottawa that very question.
Ottawa’s pro-Israeli message goes beyond more measured global response: Tim Harper
As the world watched the civilian death toll in Gaza climb over the weekend, the international response was largely built on three pillars.
Most capitals emphasized Israel’s right to defend itself, the need to protect innocent civilians and the need for a mutual ceasefire.
But in Canada, the tone and the message were different.
Israel had not just the right to defend itself, but the obligation, according to Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird.
The end to the conflict was the responsibility of Hamas, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said.
And neither man expressed much in the way of optimism for a cessation of hostilities or concern for the number of civilians who have perished under the Israeli bombardment, a number which could be three out of every four of the more than 160 killed so far in the Gaza.
Harper, in fact, issued a statement Sunday that made only scant reference to civilian deaths.
“It is evident that Hamas is deliberately using human shields to further terror in the region,’’ he said.
Baird mentioned nothing of this in a media briefing Friday, but did so in a statement Saturday scolding the United Nations for calling for Israeli restraint. He, too, placed the blame on Hamas.
“Canada mourns the death and suffering of innocent civilians in Gaza. Responsibility rests solely with Hamas and its allies, who launched and continue to feed this crisis,’’ he said.
The Harper government clearly believes Hamas is now so badly wounded that the Israeli offensive should continue until the terrorist organization is massively degraded, if not eliminated.
Harper’s “unequivocal” support for Israel will surprise no one here or abroad and Baird’s aggressive pushback against the United Nations has also lost its ability to surprise.
Baird is correct when he says there is no moral equivalency between a democratic state and a terrorist organization, and that Hamas militants are hiding within its civilian population is abominable.
Except that the population of Gaza is so tightly constricted, the innocents really have nowhere to run.
Israel says Hamas leaders are sending civilians back into homes, even after warnings of impending strikes, warnings delivered with either a rocket, a so-called “knock on the roof,” or a phone call.
But in some instances, death came without a calling card.
An Israeli air strike that destroyed the home of a cousin of the Gaza police chief and a neighbouring mosque came without warning, residents said. It killed 18, including children, and wounded 50.
There had been a knock on the roof at the home for those with mental and physical challenges, but staff ignored it, so certain were they that they could not possibly be on the Israeli hit list.
The attack killed two residents and wounded three.
Canada’s two opposition parties have been more circumspect, but neither was eager to take on Ottawa’s official position and that may mark a sea change in the country’s Middle East position which is less and less a Conservative position and increasingly an all-party consensus.
Both Liberal foreign affairs critic Marc Garneau and his NDP counterpart Paul Dewar preached restraint, de-escalation and protection of civilians.
One Liberal MP who is in Tel Aviv, Newfoundland’s Gerry Byrne, watched Israel’s Iron Dome repel an attack, then took to social media to praise the courage of individual Israelis in the face of terrorism.
Internationally, the tone was more measured than the end-game message from Ottawa.
British Foreign Secretary William Hague said, while Israel has the right to defend itself, the world has “deep concern” over civilian casualties and the entire world wanted to see a de-escalation.
Germany’s foreign minister is expected in Israel Monday for talks with the Israelis and the Palestinians. France has also signalled it will help broker a ceasefire.
But any sign of anything but unwavering Israeli support invites criticism from the right.
In the U.S., President Barack Obama is facing withering criticism from Republicans for what they believe is a tepid response that also spoke of the protection of civilians and a call for de-escalation.
In Ottawa, mutual ceasefires and peace talks are only for the weak-kneed and faint of heart.
Of course, we have long since forfeited any role in forging a peace in the region.
“Failure by the international community to condemn these reprehensible actions would encourage these terrorists to continue their appalling actions,’’ Harper said.
“Canada calls on its allies and partners to recognize that these terrorist acts are unacceptable and that solidarity with Israel is the best way of stopping the conflict.’’
Tim Harper is a national affairs writer. His column appears Monday, Wednesday and Friday. tharper@thestar.ca Twitternutgraf1
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news...more_measured_global_response_tim_harper.html
And the problem with this is????
Wow, the Israeli's don't want peace? Are you kidding me? I think you may have your facts wrong - for the most part, its the other way around. Unfortunately, the civilian population of Palestine are the victims and Hamas and their ilk are the true terrorists. Why don't you google the Hamas Charter (its on line) and see just who it is that doesn't want peace.
Unbelievable!