Harper warns Americans he will ship oil elsewhere

[Ron in Regina]

It would be unethical for Canada to buy oil from inhumane nations, but it's okay to sell it to them?

I think that's the idea. To not buy oil from these nations and
funding their shenanigans...but to sell to them and collect
their cash, regardless of whomever the customer happens
to be. That way Canada can start covering their trains in
24K gold leaf too, right? That's ethical, isn't it?

That way nobody is a hypocrite, and we have shiny trains,
or whatever...

 

[petros]

I like shiny trains.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I like shiny trains.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/i...03631-saudi-arabia-commissions-gold-leaf.html

 

[petros]

Probably more gold in the last spike than used in the gold leaf on that Mecca-Medina line

PS Hey Ron. Is it cold enough for ya?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Probably more gold in the last spike than used in the gold leaf on that Mecca-Medina line

PS Hey Ron. Is it cold enough for ya?

I know what the temperature really is, but it feels
chilly 'cuz I'm just not use to anything much worse
yet....& it's damp, I guess.

I'll take this over last year by any means though.;-)

 

[petros]

I'd like the see it colder and drier.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I'd like the see it colder and drier.

Drier, yes. Not so much in favour with the other choice though. Do ya'
figure Harper can deliver that for us? (Try'n to segway back onto topic)

 

[petros]

Kent failed to end la Nina at Durban and were stuck with this.

I heard the other day that in the next ten years we'll need 125,000 to fill jobs in SK

 

[mentalfloss]

I think that's the idea. To not buy oil from these nations and
funding their shenanigans...but to sell to them and collect
their cash, regardless of whomever the customer happens
to be.

Any trade between oil exporters and importers actually benefits both parties.

 

[petros]

Depends what you have to trade for oil.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Kent failed to end la Nina at Durban and were stuck with this.

I heard the other day that in the next ten years we'll need 125,000 to fill jobs in SK

I believe it. Lot's of folks retiring, and lots from the East Coast
going home to build those big boats. Six Nurses retired out'a
Pioneer Village alone this month I'm told.

 

[petros]

I believe it. Lot's of folks retiring, and lots from the East Coast
going home to build those big boats. Six Nurses retired out'a
Pioneer Village alone this month I'm told.

It's going to be a busy place until were both old and dieing. Hopefully there will be nurses to take care of us in our gold leaf retirement palaces.

 

[damngrumpy]

First of all it is not incumbent upon Canada to sell oil to any other nation should we
wish to keep it for ourselves. Having said that we should be looking closely at what
we are doing here. First we are proposing to ship jobs to America, instead of doing
the refining here. Why not look after Canadian interests first Oh right American
companies. Well the fact is if we had the guts we could say fine explore to your hearts
content, but it has to be refined here before export, that we can do. We should no be
supporting Saudi interests either. What do I mean? Many of the so called American
oil companies have been all but taken over by Saudi interests by way of open market
shares. They no longer care where the oil comes from as long as they own the over
all assets. Now is the time to say no more. If we develop our oil fields, it must be for
North Americans by north Americans period. Protectionism? Yes. Also some say its
not easy to convince workers who depend on export jobs to go along. Nonsense,
do you realize how many jobs would be created if we no longer sent out iron ore, or
lumber, and a host of other products. All or 75% of all products leaving would have to
be, you guessed it pre finished product before it left our shores. This is business they
need our stuff and we are not the worlds friend we should be a hard nosed business
group bent on serving our own needs first the resource is ours to begin with.
If you think this is harsh, I leave with this thought, do you know how hard it is to ship
so mush as one cherry into Japan. Actually it is not possible right now, for the most
part. Only if they are short of them.

 

[Tonington]

Correct he cannot - But Pipelines fall under the Feds. Were you aware of that? Enough oil to ship both East and West.

Approvals of pipelines, yes. Not building them. Not operating them. So we're back to square one. Harper has no say over to whom a company sells their oil.

Oil is already part nationalized. Look into what employee pensions, union pensions, CPP, EI, WDF, Action Plan is invested into and /or funding socially. It's oil. It's nuclear. It's coal, it's nickel, it's iron, it's gold, it's copper, it's aluminum, it's gas, it's human capital like student loans and everything under the sun is part owned by you and me. We own lots.

Being a stock holder doesn't mean making the decisions. Company executives answer to the share holders, but the choices come from the company employees.

 

[damngrumpy]

I still believe we are only about ten years or less from a national energy policy something
that has been resisted for a long time. It will become necessary. Secondly oil and other
products are world commodities only because we allow them to be. What we need is a
national self serving policy that benefits us rather than the rest of the world. We have the
energy and we should dictate the terms, just like the Arabs and others. Using food for
example, the western world has most of the excess food therefore we should be using it
like a weapon the way the Arab world uses energy.

 

[JLM]

First of all it is not incumbent upon Canada to sell oil to any other nation should we
wish to keep it for ourselves. Having said that we should be looking closely at what
we are doing here. First we are proposing to ship jobs to America, instead of doing
the refining here. Why not look after Canadian interests first Oh right American
companies.


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What you say sounds very good........................up to a point. Importing, exporting is a two way street. We have a manufacturing industry here so if we are to expect to export finished products only, wouldn't it make sense that we import finished products only? So is our manufacturing industry only to be done with home grown/produced raw materials? :smile:

 

[Spade]

Does anyone care about exponential growth?

 

[JLM]

Does anyone care about exponential growth?

Is that a viable crop in Canada?

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

First of all it is not incumbent upon Canada to sell oil to any other nation should we
wish to keep it for ourselves. Having said that we should be looking closely at what
we are doing here. First we are proposing to ship jobs to America, instead of doing
the refining here. Why not look after Canadian interests first Oh right American
companies. Well the fact is if we had the guts we could say fine explore to your hearts
content, but it has to be refined here before export, that we can do.
.

Canadians and our govts do not stand up to global capital here. We have the oil, yet we don't refine it. Why? Because we are afraid and impatient, we want our greedy grubby hands on the money right now. Oh, don't tell me, Americans will invade. China will give us hard looks. So scary.

 

[In Between Man]

Ship the oil elsewhere, time is money. Let's go!