Harper portraying himself as economic safe haven when his whole strategy is in ruins

taxslave

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I don't think you need to be elected to be Prime Minister. I'm not sure actually. I remember Harper appointing a couple of cabinet ministers who were not elected.

The normal course of events, if teh PM were to lose his seat would be to parachute him into a safe riding where he would win handily and give the poor sucker who stood aside for him a Senate seat.

If I remember correctly one does not have to be an elected MP to be PM, but in order to sit in the leg one must be elected. So an unelected PM would have to sit in the visitors gallery. There are also other places that are MPs only access.

These days being gifted a Senate seat ain't what it used to be.
 

bluebyrd35

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Typical conservative. Loves war and uses our tax money for all those nice shiny weapons. To h@ll with those struggling to make a living. Tax the middle class and the poor, hoping that the rich (which receive tax breaks along with the corporations) who are supposed to allow some of their wealth to filter down to the lower classes. Of course that never did happen but it takes a few hundred years to learn that lesson.

We had a great economy when he came into office. We rode out the last depression as the most solvent country in the world with few exceptions. What will be left when he leaves?? On the other hand the Conservatives in the US brought the US to the brink of bankruptcy before they left office and in a few short years Obama has restored the economy to almost healthy. Vote for the conservatives if you like a country on the brink of collapse.
 

JLM

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Typical conservative. Loves war and uses our tax money for all those nice shiny weapons. To h@ll with those struggling to make a living. Tax the middle class and the poor, hoping that the rich (which receive tax breaks along with the corporations) who are supposed to allow some of their wealth to filter down to the lower classes. Of course that never did happen but it takes a few hundred years to learn that lesson.

We had a great economy when he came into office. We rode out the last depression as the most solvent country in the world with few exceptions. What will be left when he leaves?? On the other hand the Conservatives in the US brought the US to the brink of bankruptcy before they left office and in a few short years Obama has restored the economy to almost healthy. Vote for the conservatives if you like a country on the brink of collapse.

Bit of a skewed outlook, I'd say. I don't think the U.S.'s financial position is that much better than ours.
 

bluebyrd35

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Oh yes, it is much better than you can imagine. People are upbeat here and they are buying. It has been a good few years since I have seen it like this. Obama's state of the union address, is on the money. If he follows through with all he wants to accomplish, the US will be riding high once more.

Just look at what has happened to their dollar compared to what has happened to ours, not just between us but in comparison with the rest of the world.
 

damngrumpy

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Betrayal has a bad habit of biting the betrayer in the **
Duffy will likely go to jail or given a suspended
sentence but he will talk and he will take down some
powerful people. Harper is struggling with going early
first who knows what the reaction to the trail will be and
secondly what other nasty stuff will fall out of the dark
and see the light of day? He will face some serious and
difficult economic questions as he led people to believe
the economy was sound and it is not sound its going to
go down fast and he knows it. Political paralyses is the
worst position for a politician to be in
 

JLM

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Betrayal has a bad habit of biting the betrayer in the **
Duffy will likely go to jail or given a suspended
sentence but he will talk and he will take down some
powerful people. Harper is struggling with going early
first who knows what the reaction to the trail will be and
secondly what other nasty stuff will fall out of the dark
and see the light of day? He will face some serious and
difficult economic questions as he led people to believe
the economy was sound and it is not sound its going to
go down fast and he knows it. Political paralyses is the
worst position for a politician to be in
I imagine Duffy will probably talk, but I'm not sure if he's credible enough to convince anyone. As for the economy in Canada I think it was fairly sound before the oil crash and I'd be interested to know what Harper could have done to change that if anything. I'm predicting looking ahead a year you won't see much has changed. The Liberals might regain the opposition and the N.D.P. might slip back toward their historical 30 - 35 seats?
 

mentalfloss

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Canadian economy too dependent on oil - Columnists - Prince George Citizen

 

mentalfloss

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You could have just said you agree with me but I understand.

Apology accepted.
 

mentalfloss

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Breaking (the economy):

@RosieBarton: Poloz: now growth is going to be significantly less than 2% for first half of year. #hw

@RosieBarton: Poloz: layoffs in oil sector won't be offset in other parts of the economy. #hw

@CBCAlerts: Stephen Poloz won't rule out further interest rate cuts if oil remains below Bank of Cda's projection of $60 US a barrel. #cdnpoli #cdnecon

Key interest rate unexpectedly lowered | CTV News
 

taxslave

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Still lots of fat to be trimmed from social programs to make a balanced budget. Low interest rates are good for the economy although there should be tighter restrictions on borrowing.
 

bluebyrd35

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Still lots of fat to be trimmed from social programs to make a balanced budget. Low interest rates are good for the economy although there should be tighter restrictions on borrowing.
Fat to be trimmed....hmmm from the old folks of course. What happened to the proven way to get a country out of recessions or depression?? The one that says ""put back a fair amount of the taxes collected back in benefits to the people the government took it from. " Those that earn those salaries cannot pay their taxes if they do not receive full value for what they agree to donate. (taxes)

This system is on the verge of collapse. The world has changed dramatically, due to the astounding advances in communications. Where it took months and sometimes years to get the truth of a situation, and even longer to correct; these days it can be virtually overnight. It takes only the same amount of time to organize a protest, a demonstration or a march to make the politicians take note.

It may take a bit longer when a public figure will not interact with the press and to control their underlings into doing the same.......but........before long someone breaks the silence. It is quite a change from when it could take several changes of government to bring the facts to light. Eventually the facts come out. The public has been learning how to counter those tactics much to the dismay of the less than honest.

Personally, I feel anyone running a country would do well to know a bit about good economic management. But heck that would be far too sensible and besides those that go into politics are not into it for such dull things as finances. Much more about fame and exercising control. This puts the onus on the voter to do the math, and to choose as best they can, who they feel has at least a minimum interest in their country's well-being.