Harper in the Arab News

[Colpy]

I apologize to all the Toronto 18 victims. Please remind me, how many people did they kill again after their RCMP informant supplied them with guns and fake explosives?

I apologize to all the families of all the Canadians who died as a Muslim terrorist attacks in Canada. Perhaps you can list their names, so i know who I am apologizing to, since I am unaware of a single Muslim extremist attack on Canadian soil.

While I am somewhat concerned about all the people who have died as a result of Muslim extremist attacks in Canada, I am very concerned by the threat posed by farm animal attacks.

If Harper really wanted to protect Canadians, he'd be doing something about the farm animal threat.

Neither the Germans nor the Japanese killed anyone on the Canadian land mass either, did they......did that make them less of a threat??

Nor did the North Koreans.

Get serious.

It is a small world.

Oh, and as for how safe we are from attack.....perhaps you could explain to me why there are Islamic terrorist attacks...in SWEDEN.

To paraphrase Ann Coulter ........leftists are very much like lemmings, just not as cute.

 

[earth_as_one]

True, true.....although we have only missed by good luck, and the efforts of a decent Muslim. As well, there was Ahmed Ressam, who entered the USA to do an attack, and who had planed an attack on the Montreal Jewish community. As well, there are a couple of guys that were supposedly planning an attack on an aircraft......

Although no Muslim has yet achieved the heights of Sikh extremeism......327 dead, no convictions......and I will forever be convinced the judge was in fear of his life.

Isn't multiculturalism WONDERFUL!!!!!!!

that's right, Sikhs and Muslims are really the same religion. Just like Christianity and Buddhism.

Isn't ignorance WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!

...However we must immediately
engage in a campaign against Lightning. We must get our priorities straight. If more
people are killed by lightning we must bring lightning to justice.... l.

I'm with you DG, Canada should declare war against lightening. Its about time we stopped ignoring the lightening threat and did something about this menace which kills innocent people every year.

 

[Colpy]

that's right, Sikhs and Muslims are really the same religion. Just like Christianity and Buddhism.

Isn't ignorance WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!


.

Before you start expressing opinions on open political sites, I suggest you learn to read.

You might be less apt to make a fool of yourself.

Go try again.

 

[petros]

Fluff!

 

[earth_as_one]

...Oh, and as for how safe we are from attack.....perhaps you could explain to me why there are Islamic terrorist attacks...in SWEDEN...

Perhaps you can explain to me why there are neoconservative attacks.... in Norway. The Oslo nutcase was motivated by an extreme version of neoconservatism. Shouldn't Canada also do something about neoconservative threat which promotes irrationally hate and fear Muslims and lead to the deaths of 77 people in Norway recently?
Anders Behring Breivik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[petros]

AFP: China sentences four to death over Xinjiang unrest

It's not just a Western problem...

 

[earth_as_one]

Farm animals are a global threat. Its about time we cracked down on cows.

 

[petros]

Farm animals are a global threat. Its about time we cracked down on cows.

Moojahideen? al Cowda?

 

[Omicron]

An article on Harper's comments about Islamic terrorism seems much more concerned with the fact Harper likes Israel....oh, and Jews.

--
An article written by Dovid Efune in The Huffington Post rated Harper as the No. 1 non-Jew having a positive influence in shaping the Jewish future.
“Harper has been a great friend to Canada’s Jewish community as well as an outspoken supporter of Israeli positions in the international political arena… saying last year, ‘When Israel, the only country in the world whose very existence is under attack, is consistently and conspicuously singled out for condemnation, I believe we are morally obligated to take a stand.’”
--

That's one of the reasons I vote Conservative!

Colpy, did you ever read the book 1984, about how after people get beat up by Big Brother they'll turn into it's biggest advocate, sitting in special cafes with their broken noses and drinking gin flavored with cloves while professing love? The author had an early insight into what is now called the Swedish Hostage syndrome.

So when did you get beat up by Big Brother?

And what would Harper say if Quebecois got gutsy enough to take on the financial responsibility of managing a large, yet smaller, economy?

You see, the thing is, I as an Anglo who can't speak one whit of French did bother to study the history. I mean, come on... you can't have seven million people screaming without getting curious.

Turns out they're right.

Currently we have a Canadian-only form of social peace-treaty best articulated by Harper's statement that Quebec is a Sovereign Society within a United Canada, and those with brains would see how adaptation of that attitude unto the United Nations might stop a lot of idiotically expensive military-crap operations from happening when the same amount of money spent on agricultural research to make crops capable of feeding people under climate change would be cheaper and more effective towards making peace, given how people tend to get belligerent only when they are hungry, so if you want to gripe about high taxes, how about looking at how it's spent?

Which leads me to say to you Colpy, ever notice how the line between left and right was drawn wrong? That it should have been between 9:00 and 3:00, such that on the upper half are the good lefties and the good righties, and underneath are the bad lefties and the bad righties?

On the lower right quadrant is Hitler, and on the lower left quadrant is Stalin.

You think the division between good and bad is drawn from 12:00 to 6:00???

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Number of Canadians killed by the Toronto 18: 0
Number of Muslim fundamentalist attacks in Canada: 0

Because we caught them in time. Do you think the statistic would still hold had the police not found out about their plans?

 

[Colpy]

Colpy, did you ever read the book 1984, about how after people get beat up by Big Brother they'll turn into it's biggest advocate, sitting in special cafes with their broken noses and drinking gin flavored with cloves while professing love? The author had an early insight into what is now called the Swedish Hostage syndrome.

So when did you get beat up by Big Brother?

And what would Harper say if Quebecois got gutsy enough to take on the financial responsibility of managing a large, yet smaller, economy?

You see, the thing is, I as an Anglo who can't speak one whit of French did bother to study the history. I mean, come on... you can't have seven million people screaming without getting curious.

Turns out they're right.

Currently we have a Canadian-only form of social peace-treaty best articulated by Harper's statement that Quebec is a Sovereign Society within a United Canada, and those with brains would see how adaptation of that attitude unto the United Nations might stop a lot of idiotically expensive military-crap operations from happening when the same amount of money spent on agricultural research to make crops capable of feeding people under climate change would be cheaper and more effective towards making peace, given how people tend to get belligerent only when they are hungry, so if you want to gripe about high taxes, how about looking at how it's spent?

Which leads me to say to you Colpy, ever notice how the line between left and right was drawn wrong? That it should have been between 9:00 and 3:00, such that on the upper half are the good lefties and the good righties, and underneath are the bad lefties and the bad righties?

On the lower right quadrant is Hitler, and on the lower left quadrant is Stalin.

You think the division between good and bad is drawn from 12:00 to 6:00???

Winston Smith is my hero!

Coherence is a wonderful thing. You should try it sometime.

 

[damngrumpy]

Terrorists are always a threat and sometimes our terrorists are someones freedom fighters.
If you think about it we as the west and certainly America supported the Nicaraguan terrorists
the Contras against Daniel Ortega a couple of decades ago.
Funny how that worked, there was a conservative government elected with the fall of Ortega's
government. Some time later Ortega was elected the President anyway and is still the leader
of that county today.
Oh I am sorry the terrorists were on our side that made them freedom fighters you know the
Contras, we must be clear here. I am not saying we should make excuses for the Muslim
Terrorists we should in fact own up to the fact we are at war with a segment of the Islamic World
and everyone tip toes around the mention of that. It is OK to kill them but not to offend them it
seems.
As for Israel, I have in laws who are from there, and a grand daughter who is Jewish however it
does not prevent me from being critical when that is what is called for. To support every move
is as bad as criticizing everything they do. Israel has some unique problems and many they
brought on themselves. On the other hand it does not give the Arab World the right to practice
the idea of kill them all let God Decide, that only continues the cycle of violence in the region.
We should as a country be urging both sides to talk and solve their problems not continue the
killing and fester the old hatreds. Supporting one side only is not the way to bring peace.

 

[Omicron]

Terrorists are always a threat and sometimes our terrorists are someones freedom fighters.
If you think about it we as the west and certainly America supported the Nicaraguan terrorists
the Contras against Daniel Ortega a couple of decades ago.
Funny how that worked, there was a conservative government elected with the fall of Ortega's
government. Some time later Ortega was elected the President anyway and is still the leader
of that county today.
Oh I am sorry the terrorists were on our side that made them freedom fighters you know the
Contras, we must be clear here. I am not saying we should make excuses for the Muslim
Terrorists we should in fact own up to the fact we are at war with a segment of the Islamic World
and everyone tip toes around the mention of that. It is OK to kill them but not to offend them it
seems.
As for Israel, I have in laws who are from there, and a grand daughter who is Jewish however it
does not prevent me from being critical when that is what is called for. To support every move
is as bad as criticizing everything they do. Israel has some unique problems and many they
brought on themselves. On the other hand it does not give the Arab World the right to practice
the idea of kill them all let God Decide, that only continues the cycle of violence in the region.
We should as a country be urging both sides to talk and solve their problems not continue the
killing and fester the old hatreds. Supporting one side only is not the way to bring peace.

You guys are loosing your minds.

You don't remember being brought up in a dry, hot peaceful place like southern Alberta before the MBA's moved in.

All your parents were hoping for was for you to have a well-educated brain capable of killing evil while maintaining dry.

Before the MBAs took over, my dad got to grow up in a place in Wyoming next to hills painted with Indian glifs and they were so free his parents were happy that he would chose to sleep out among the gliffs shooting rabbits and cooking and eating them while gosh darn what do you want to bet the lucky grandparents were finally free to make.

Anyway, your problem in the mean time is nobody will give you a job you are best at which also pays the best and creates the most stability for families and ...

... ever read the Bible?

 

[earth_as_one]

Because we caught them in time. Do you think the statistic would still hold had the police not found out about their plans?

The police not only found out about these people. They infiltrated the group with an informant who became one of the group's leaders. Through their informant, the RCMP gave these people real weapons, fake explosives and a warehouse to store everything. Obviously some of these people had the intent to become domestic terrorists and that's good enough for a conviction. We'll never know how serious that threat would have become without RCMP assistance. Its possible these losers would not have progressed beyond foul words and getting lost in the woods during their paintball war games without RCMP assistance.

BTW, I'm not saying Islamic terrorism isn't a threat to Canada. It is. But lets put it in perspective, relative to other threats.

 

[petros]

E.L.F.

1997

• March 11, 1997, Sandy, Utah: A series of pipe bombs and one firebomb claimed jointly by the ALF and the ELF destroys four trucks and leveled the offices of the Agricultural Fur Breeders Co-Op, causing about $1 million in damage.[5]

• March 14, 1997, near Eugene, Oregon: Tree spiking at Robinson-Scott timber harvest site in the Mackenzie River watershed, Willamette National Forest. Joint ALF / ELF claim.[citation needed]

• March 18, 1997, Davis, California: The "Bay Area Cell of the Earth X ALF" takes credit for setting fire to the University of California, Davis, Center for Comparative Medicine facility, which was still under construction.[6]

• July 21, 1997, Redmond, Oregon: Arson attack on the Cavel West meat packing plant. The plant was in the business of slaughtering horses and then shipping the meat to Europe to be sold there. Estimated cost over $1 million. The plant was never rebuilt. Joint ALF / ELF claim. 27 horses were burnt to death in the fire[citation needed]

• November 29, 1997, Burns, Oregon: Fire at the Bureau of Land Management Wild Horse Corrals destroys a horse barn, chutes, pens and equipment, and 400 horses are released. ELF and ALF claim joint responsibility. Damages: $474,000. 6 horses were burnt to death in the fire[citation needed]

[edit] 1998

• June 2, 1998, Olympia, Washington: The U.S. Department of Agriculture Animal Damage Control building and another U.S. Department of Agriculture wildlife station, miles apart, go up in flames on the same morning. The Earth Liberation Front and Animal Liberation Front take joint responsibility for both actions. Damages: $1.9 million.[citation needed]

• June 28, 1998, Boston, Massachusetts: ELF defaces the Mexican Consulate in Boston with red paint in support of the indigenous Zapatista Army of National Liberation uprising in the Mexican state of Chiapas. ELF paints blood-red hand prints on the walls, spills pools of red paint on the ground, and paints "VIVA E.Z.L.N." [7][citation needed]

• July 3, 1998, Middleton, Wisconsin: Break-in and release of 171 mink and ferrets from United Vaccines laboratory during a daylight raid. Holes are cut in the fence and 310 ferrets and mink are released. Equipment and windows are also destroyed. The slogan 'Independence Day for Fur Farm Prisoners' is painted at the United Vaccines laboratory during the daylight raid. Joint ALF / ELF claim. [8][citation needed]

• October 10, 1998, Rock Springs, Wyoming: Saboteurs cut the locks off horse pens at a BLM corral, freeing about 40-100 wild horses. Failed incendiaries are found next to a pickup truck and a building. The ELF and the ALF take joint responsibility.

• October 19, 1998, Vail, Colorado: The ELF claims responsibility for burning five buildings and four chair lifts at the Vail Mountain ski resort in Vail, Colorado, causing in excess of $12 million in damages. The action come only five days after a court had ruled that Vail could proceed with its planned Category III expansion into the Two Elks Roadless Area, despite the objections of local environmentalists. In a communiqué, ELF claims that the fires were set on behalf of the lynx. "If there is any critical lynx habitat in the state, this is it!" [9]

• October 26, 1998, Powers, Michigan: About 5,000 mink are released from the Pipkorn farm in the Upper Peninsula. Damages: $100,000.[citation needed]

• December 26, 1998, Medford, Oregon: Fire ravages the headquarters of U.S. Forest Industries. An ELF communiqué issued weeks later says the strike was payback to the company for razing forests and killing wild animals for profit. Damages: $700,000.[citation needed]

[edit] 1999

• August 7, 1999, Escanaba, Michigan: Two fishing boats are set ablaze in the driveway of a veterinarian who once worked as a mink rancher. A garage door is tagged with graffiti 18 inches (460 mm) high: "FUR IS MURDER. E.L.F." The ELF later claims in an Internet posting it targeted the veterinarian after finding a "Fur is Enough" sign outside his home. Damages: $15,000.[10]

• December 25, 1999, Monmouth, Oregon: Fire destroys the main office of the Boise Cascade logging company costing over $1 million. ELF claim responsibility in a communiqué.[citation needed]

• December 31, 1999, East Lansing, Michigan: Arson of the offices of Catherine Ives, Room 324, Agriculture Hall at Michigan State University. The offices are doused with gasoline and set afire. ELF says the fire was set in response to the work being done to force developing nations in Asia, Latin America and Africa to switch from natural crop plants to genetically engineered sweet potatoes, corn, bananas and pineapples. Monsanto Company and USAID are major funders of the research and promotional work being done through Michigan State University. According to local newspapers, the fire caused over $1 million in damage.[2] "Cremate Monsanto, Long live the E.L.F. On to the next GE target!"

[edit] 2000

• January 23, 2000, Bloomington, Indiana: Arson destroys a partially built luxury home. Investigators found a message spray-painted in black on a sign near the house: "No Sprawl ELF." The ELF later issues a communiqué saying it torched the home because it was in the Lake Monroe Watershed, which provides drinking water to the city of Bloomington. Damages: $200,000.[citation needed]

• February 9, 2000, Saint Paul, Minnesota: University of Minnesota, ELF Crop Destruction, $1,000+ in damages.[citation needed]

• March 24, 2000, Minneapolis, Minnesota: Highway 55 reroute, $500,000 in damages done to construction equipment.[citation needed]

• April 30, 2000, Bloomington, Indiana: At least six pieces of logging and heavy construction equipment are sabotaged and a trailer full of wood chips is set ablaze at a road construction site just outside the city. A communiqué from the Earth Liberation Front states its plan was to punish those developing wooded areas around Bloomington, which "have turned what was once forested land into parking lots, luxury houses for rich scum and expanded roads." Damages: $75,000.[citation needed]

• July 20, 2000, Rhinelander, Wisconsin: Vandals hack down thousands of experimental trees, mostly poplars, and spray-paint vehicles at a U.S. Forest Service research station. The ELF claims the attack was against bioengineering, although researchers say the trees were naturally bred (not bioengineered) to grow faster and resist diseases. Damages: $1 million.[citation needed]

• September 9, 2000, Bloomington, Indiana: Fire erupts at the headquarters of the Monroe County Republican Party Committee headquarters. Investigators say a flammable liquid was poured on the building and ignited. The arson was a reminder, according to the ELF communiqué, that the ELF would not sit quietly as politicians pushed for plans to extend Interstate 69. Damages: $1,500.[citation needed]

• October 18, 2000, Shoals, Indiana: Vandals find four pieces of heavy logging equipment in the Martin State Forest and cut hoses, slash seats, destroy gauges and pour sand in the engines, fuel tanks and radiators. They leave spray-painted graffiti including, "Earth Raper," "Go Cut in Hell," and "ELF." Damages: $55,000.[citation needed]

• November 27, 2000, Niwot, Colorado: Arson hits one of the first luxury homes going up in a new subdivision. The ELF later sends a note, made of letters clipped from magazines, to the Boulder Weekly newspaper: "Viva la revolution! The Boulder ELF burned the Legend Ridge mansion on Nov. 27th." The underground group explains in a follow-up communiqué that the arson was driven by defeat of a statewide ballot measure to control growth. Damages: $2.5 million.[11]

• December 9, 2000, Middle Island, New York: Fire erupts in a Long Island condominium under construction. The ELF claims responsibility, saying the homes were "future dens of the wealthy elite." The group, announcing "an unbounded war on urban sprawl," claims it checked for occupants—human and animal—in 16 condos before setting incendiaries in them. Damages: $200,000.[citation needed]

• December 19, 2000, Miller Place, New York: A Long Island house under construction goes up in flames. "Building homes for the wealthy should not even be a priority," the ELF writes in its communiqué. "Forests, farms and wetlands are being replaced with a sea of houses, green chemical lawns, blacktop and roadkill." Damages: $50,000.[citation needed]

• December 29, 2000, Mount Sinai, New York: Three Long Island luxury homes under construction are set ablaze, and a fourth is spray-painted with graffiti: "If you build it we will burn it." The ELF issues a communiqué saying: "Recently, hundreds of houses have been built over much of Mount Sinai's picturesque landscape and developers now plan to build a further 189 luxury houses over the farms and forests adjacent to Island Estates...This hopefully provided a firm message that we will not tolerate the destruction of our island." Damages: $160,000.[citation needed]

[edit] 2001

• May 21, 2001, Seattle, Washington: ELF sets off a firebomb that caused $7 million in damages at the University of Washington's Center for Urban Horticulture. Lacey Phillabaum and Jennifer Kolar plead guilty to the attack in 2006. Bill Rodgers, who was "considered to be one of the top organizers of the ELF and a hands-on participant who allegedly help set the fire bombs inside the UW horticulture center," later commits suicide in an Arizona jail. Justin Solondz, who allegedly helped assemble the fire bombs and joined Rodgers in setting them is now a fugitive.[3] Briana Waters, a student at The Evergreen State College at the time of the bombing, was convicted in 2008 and sentenced to six years in prison.[4]

[edit] 2002

• January 26, 2002, St. Paul, Minnesota: University of Minnesota Microbial and Plant Genomics Research Center soil-testing lab and construction trailer burned down, construction equipment, including a bulldozer damaged, $630,000 damages Claimed by ELF.

• January 29, 2002, Fairfield, Maine: ELF announced they had sabotaged a “Biotech Park” in a communiqué that read:

We are writing to inform you that there is a Biotech Park being built in Fairfield, Maine. We went there some weeks ago and put a sand/quickcrete mix in the engines, gas, and hydraulics of an excavator and a roller. These were the only machines there, plowing up the land, building bridges over creeks. So we left no trace so when the operators came to work the machines would run and then seize, costing big bucks. Now, we are letting the people know. The park is being pushed by Paul Tessier, a representative of Fairfield, and others. It is in cohoots with Jackson Labs, which is the largest breeder of mice. They grow mice with human ears there! How sick! These people want the park to be an incubator to bring more biotechnology into Maine.
We oppose this for the following reasons... Biotechnology is one more tool by the ruling class to control our lives and make more money. Only the rich can produce biotechnology and even if that wasn't so, we would want no part of it because it sees the wild as incomplete, or as lacking, needing manipulation. Our ancestors lived in harmony on this planet for a long time, now all of humanity's progress is making us sick. And we're gonna trust those that gave us cancer to create new technologies to cure it. No way!
We want to be left alone. No more development. We enjoy life here and are sick of business men coming in and trying to dupe us into trading the good life for their wage slavery. People!!! Take action!!!
The Biotech Park is on route 201 near Kennebec Valley Technical College in Fairfield. KVTC is in on it too. Solidarity to those fighting against the greedy! ELF...ALF...Together with all”[12]
​

• February 12, 2002, Washington D.C.: FBI testimony before the House Ecoterror Hearing.

Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States (or its territories) without foreign direction, committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives...During the past several years, special interest extremism, as characterized by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), has emerged as a serious terrorist threat. The FBI estimates that the ALF/ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the United States since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of 43 million dollars. [13]
​

• March 24, 2002, Erie, Pennsylvania: Hundreds of trees spiked in Wintergreen Gorge, crane, generators and pumps torched, other equipment monkey wrenched, $500,000 damages Claimed by ELF. [14]

• May 12, 2002, Harbor Creek, Pennsylvania: 200 mink released from Mindek mink farm Claimed by ALF and ELF.[15]

• August 11, 2002, Irvine, Pennsylvania: A device, containing gasoline, was thrown onto the roof of the Northeast Research Station in the Allegheny National Forest. The ensuing fire caused nearly $700,000 in damages. An e-mail from ELF's office said:

While innocent life will never be harmed in any action we undertake, where it is necessary, we will no longer hesitate to pick up the gun to implement justice, and provide the needed protection for our planet that decades of legal battles, pleading protest, and economic sabotage have failed so drastically to achieve." and that "all other US Forest Services administration and research facilities, as well as all Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR) buildings nationwide should now be considered likely targets.
​

• September 2002, Harbor Creek, Pennsylvania: more than 50 mink released Mindek mink farm Claimed by ALF and ELF.[16]

• September 28, 2002, Richmond, Virginia: 25 windows etched at 1 Burger King and 13 windows etched at each of 2 McDonalds Claimed by ELF.

• November 1, 2002, Richmond, Virginia: Vandals who left messages crediting ELF damaged SUVs in several incidents recently. Twenty-five SUVs on the lot of a Ford dealer were permanently defaced with a glass-etching cream. A week later, SUVs parked near homes were severely damaged with an ax or hatchet. Vandalism and attempted arson have also been reported recently at highway and home construction sites in the area.

• December 28, 2002, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: ELF activists attacked a housing development, severely damaging construction vehicles and the model home on the property.

[edit] 2003

• January 1, 2003, Girard, Pennsylvania: Jugs of gasoline were set under three vehicles at Bob Ferrando Ford Lincoln Mercury and set ablaze. Two pickup trucks, one Sport Utility Vehicle (SUV) and a car were destroyed causing $90,000 in damages. The ELF claimed responsibility for the attack.[5]

• January 20, 2003, Seattle, Washington: Arson at a McDonalds caused $5000 worth of damage. In September, 2005, Christopher W. McIntosh of Maple Shade, NJ, admitted he set the fire by pouring several gallons of gasoline on the roof on behalf of ALF-ELF. In an anonymous phone call he said:

[t]here was an E-L-F-A-L-F hit at McDonald's across from the Space Needle. There will be more. ... As long as Mother Earth is pillaged, raped, destroyed. As long as McDonald's keeps hurting our furry brothers, there will be more.
​

He was sentenced to eight years in prison. [17]

• March 21, 2003, Superior Township, Michigan: Two luxury homes set on fire in a Superior Township housing development in an action against urban sprawl. Claimed by the ELF. Damages estimated at $400,000. [18]

• March 28, 2003, Montgomery, Alabama: Five government vehicles were vandalized and one truck was set on fire at a Naval Recruitment Headquarters in Montgomery, Alabama. The ELF claimed responsibility for the attacks both in a communiqué and by spray-painting their initials at the scene. Messages that read, "Stop the War," "Stop killing" and "Leave Iraq" were also found along with the ELF initials. [19]

• April 8, 2003, Santa Cruz, California: The ELF claims responsibility for vandalizing 65 SUVs, including about twenty private vehicles as well forty at the North Bay Ford and Lincoln Mercury car dealership. Messages are spray-painted on the vehicles denouncing the war in [Iraq].[20]

• April 15, 2003, Santa Cruz, California: ELF activists attack 15 SUVs with bright orange paint, and in an ELF press release, complain that the local paper did not cover the story. [21]

• June 3, 2003, Chico, California: ELF claims the attempted arson of a new home. The fire burns through a PVC pipe holding water, dousing the flames so the damage was minimal, about $100. "Save our bio-region ELF" is painted on the sidewalk.[22]

• June 4, 2003, Macomb County, Michigan: ELF sets fire to two luxury homes in a Macomb County housing development in an action against urban sprawl. "ELF" and "Stop sprawl" are spray painted on nearby construction equipment. Damages estimated at $700,000.[23]

• June 5, 2003, Chico, California: An arson attempt is made at a shopping center under construction. Workers find remnants of several small fires, and ELF spray-painted on the door of a work truck at the site. The FBI explores connections with arson attempts at two McDonalds in March, and SUVs in May, in Chico. [24]

• June 14, 2003, Santa Cruz, California: Environmental activists scratch the slogan ELF into ten new SUVs, causing $15,000 worth of damage.[25]

• July 2, 2003, South Windsor, Connecticut: Signs of the Earth Liberation Front, "ELF" and "no sprawl," are spray-painted on a newly completed. An unidentified man called police and said the graffiti was done by an ELF activist. [26]

• August 1, 2003, San Diego, California: A 206-unit condominium being built is burnt down causing damage in excess of $50 million. A 12-foot (3.7 m) banner at the scene reads "If you build it, we will burn it," signed, "The E.L.F.s are mad." [27] — sympathizers often refer to themselves as "elfs" or "elves".

• August 22, 2003, West Covina, California: The ELF attacks several car dealerships in east suburban Los Angeles, burning down a warehouse and vandalizing several cars, with such phrases as "I love pollution" written on the cars. All told, more 125 SUVs and Hummers, which were targeted due to their lower than average fuel efficiency, are damaged or destroyed causing $2.3 million in damages.

• August 29, 2003, Fairbanks, Alaska: ELF spray-paints concrete walls and construction equipment at a [Wal-Mart] construction site.[28]

• September 4, 2003, Santa Fe, New Mexico: ELF action against SUV dealer in New Mexico - SUVS spray-painted with messages naming the seven deadly sins. 1/3 of the dealership's stock was marked, leaving thousands of dollars in damages.

• September 12, 2003: Federal agents arrest Pomona, California resident Joshua Thomas Connole in connection with the August 22nd 2003 Los Angeles area arsons. [29] Apparently, the FBI profiled Connole based on his anti-war protest activities. [30] He is soon released due to lack of evidence. [31] The FBI later awards Connole $100,000 and agrees to give him an apology after he files a lawsuit against the agency.[32]

• September 19, 2003, San Diego, California: ELF action against urban sprawl at three separate construction sites in the upscale Carmel Valley neighborhood of San Diego, causing an estimated $1 million in damages. Four unfinished houses were destroyed, two others were damaged and a condominium under construction sustained minor damage. A banner at the site of the first fires read, "Development = destruction. Stop raping nature. The ELFs are mad." [33]

• September 22, 2003, Martiny, Michigan: The ELF claims responsibility for planting plastic bottles containing flammable liquid at an Ice Mountain Spring Water Company (a subsidiary of Nestle) pumping station. The devices are apparently intended to start a fire at the premises but are discovered by maintenance workers before they are set ablaze.

In a written statement, the ELF stated:

We will no longer stand idly be while corporations profit at the expense of all others. To this end, we have taken action against one of the pumping stations that Perrier uses to steal water… Clean water is one of the most fundamental necessities and no one can be allowed to privatize it, commodify it, and try and sell it back to us.
​

Two months later a judge orders the company to halt pumping water from the wells. Nestle had been removing 200 gallons of water from the ground per minute and was lowering the water table.[34]

• October 6, 2003, Jemez Mountains, New Mexico: Construction equipment belonging to the US Forest has electrical wires cut, tires cut and windows broken by ELF. [35]

• October (mid), 2003; Portland, Maine: The Acadian Green Brigade of the ELF slashes the tires of 8 Boise Cascade delivery trucks and two trailers, glued locks and painted slogans across the building's main entrance. [36]

• October 24, 2003, Martinsville, Indiana: ELF activists sabotage a Wal-Mart construction site. Survey stakes are removed, and walls and machinery spray-painted. Over a dozen pieces of heavy machinery and vehicles are vandalized, with slashed tires, cut fuel hoses, and sand poured in fuel tanks. [37]

[edit] 2004

January 22, 2004, Fayetteville, Arkansas: Five Hummer SUVs are vandalized. The letters ELF are spray-painted on the vehicles, tires are slashed and windows broken. [38]

• February 7, 2004, Charlottesville, Virginia: The ELF sets fire to a bulldozer and causes damage to other equipment that is parked off Route 29. This site is to be developed into a retail, commercial and residential community. On their website, the ELF writes that the site was "targeted as part of the ELF's ongoing actions against large-scale developments going up at the expense of what little green space is left in North America." A banner left on the site read "Your construction = long term destruction - ELF" The action causes over $30,000 in damages. [39]

• February 17, 2004, North Lima, Ohio: Vandals break windows in a construction trailer, spray a fire extinguisher and scratch the initials "ELF" on the side of a piece of construction equipment at the construction site of a new showroom for a fireworks company. [40]

• April 20, 2004, Snohomish, Washington: Two homes are destroyed and attempts are made to burn two others at a housing development. A note found at the site of one of the fires is signed "ELF" and reportedly contains statements condemning suburban developments. As well, bottles of flammable liquid are found at two different housing development sites in the area. The action causes an estimated $1 million in damages. [41]

• July 30, 2004, Charlotte, North Carolina: Activists vandalize a fleet of utility trucks owned by Utiliquest, a utility contractor. All the trucks are marked with “ELF” and all have their tires slashed. [42]

• August 3, 2004, Spokane, Washington: A fire heavily damages one $55,000 Hummer SUV and nearly burns two others at the George Gee Hummer dealership. One H2 Hummer has its windows broken and is spray painted with messages that oppose the Iraq war and President Bush. An e-mail sent to local media outlets claims credit for the Eastern Washington Chapter of the Earth Liberation Front [43]

• December 27, 2004, Lincoln, California: Incendiary devises are located in three houses under construction at the Verdera Models construction site on Flores Court in the Twelve Bridges development. Graffiti is discovered on another house under construction in the same development. The graffiti found at the scene includes notations such as "Enjoy the world as is - as long as you can", "U will pay", "Evasion", "4 Q" and "Leave". This house also sustains broken windows. The letters "ELF" are printed in the cul-de-sac where these homes are located. Across the street from this house a tractor is vandalized with the notation "Disarm or die". [44]

 

[petros]

ELF Pt. II

[edit] 2005

January 12, 2005, Auburn, California: Five un-ignited incendiary devices are discovered in a commercial building under construction that, upon completion, were to be rented as doctor's offices. A letter claiming responsibility for "the actions taken in Placer County (CA)" is received by several media outlets. The return address on the letter indicates it was from "Emma Goldman." Emma Goldman is a major figure in the history of anarchism.
The rambling, two-page letter, which appears to have been computer generated, generally decries various aspects of modern life, including real-estate development, and promises that "We are setting a new precedent, where there will be at least one or more actions every few weeks.” The letter concludes, "With sincere love, 'Agent Emma Goldman and the Crimethinc Senior Officers of the Earth Liberation Front' " and also references eight websites, including http://www.crimethinc.com." The latter website describes itself as an "ex-workers' collective" and generally expresses an anarchistic philosophy. [45]

• February 7, 2005, Sutter Creek, California: The ELF sets fire to the new Pinewoods apartment complex, about 45 miles (72 km) east of Sacramento. Sutter Creek Chief of Police Robert Duke says "there were seven individual fires and some kind of incendiary device with very, very crude triggering mechanisms." graffiti found near the fire reads: "We will win -- ELF." [46]

• March 6, 2005, Fair Oaks, California: Three vehicles – two full-size pickup trucks and a Ford Expedition – are spray-painted with the initials "ELF," and their rear license plates are painted over. A total of at least seven SUVs are vandalized in the Sacramento area during the week. [47]

• April 13, 2005, Sammamish, Washington: ELF partially burns down one of two buildings it targeted in a King County, Washington development. David Ammon, a developer whose property was burned, had planned on constructing two more homes in the area. Police discover an incendiary device which had failed to ignite in a second house nearby along with a sheet condemning the rape of the Earth, clearing of trees, and claiming responsibility on behalf of ELF. It reads, "Where are all the trees? Burn, rapist, burn. E.L.F" The homes targeted are new ones located in a golf course subdivision. [48]

• May 17, 2005, Fair Oaks, California: Several SUVs and trucks are spray-painted with “ELF” and “polluter”, and many also have their tires slashed. A short distance away, the words “bomb the White House” are found spray-painted on a real estate sign. FBI, Secret Service, and a joint terrorism task force are investigating, and trying to find out if the two attacks are related. [49]

• July 27, 2005 Whatcom County, Washington: Arsonists damage two homes under construction. The first causes $100,000 in damages. The second, a few days later, completely destroys another home being built in the area. ELF has taken credit for other arsons in the area earlier in the year that police are investigating.[50]

• September 11, 2005, West Old Town, Maine: The ELF vandalizes at least a dozen large machines at the West Old Town Landfill, which is one of New England's worst polluters. The winter prior, ownership of the landfill had been transferred from the Georgia-Pacific timber company to state hands, in a behind-closed-doors deal which resulted in the expansion of the site and a sweet deal for Georgia-Pacific and Casella Waste Systems who now run the site. The machines had their ignitions ripped out, or superglue poured into them, tires were slashed, two buildings and many vehicles were spray painted, and the fuel in the equipments' tanks may have been tampered with. Officials say the damage will cost tens of thousands of dollars to repair. [51]

• October 3, 2005, Bozeman, Montana: U.S. - A construction site owned by the Kenyon Noble lumber company is vandalized by the Earth Liberation Front causing about $3000 in damage. [52]

• November 19, 2005, Hagerstown, Maryland: ELF claims responsibility for setting four fires in newly constructed unoccupied homes built by the McLean, Virginia Ryan Homes in the Hager's Crossing subdivision. One building is burned to the ground but the other three sustain less serious damage. The developer estimated the damage at more than $300,000.

Credit for the arson is claimed via an e-mail originating from the e-mail address tree_beard1234@yahoo.com. Treebeard is the name of a giant shepherd, one of a race called the Ents, in J.R.R. Tolkien's cult fantasy novel "The Two Towers." The message reads:

Last night we, the Earth Liberation Front, put the torch to a development of Ryan Homes in Hagerstown, Maryland (off Route 40, behind the Wal-Mart). We did so to strike at the bottom line of this country's most notorious serial land rapist...We warn all developers that the people of the Earth are prepared to defend what remains of the wild and the green...We encourage all who watch with sadness while developers sell out the future of us and our children to join us in resisting them in any and every possible way...The Ents are going to war. [53]
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• November 25, 2005, Bothell, Washington: Two pieces of construction equipment are destroyed by fire, causing more than $100,000 in damage. [54]

• November 29, 2005, Bothell, Washington: One piece of construction equipment is destroyed by fire. [55]

• December 14, 2005, Kenmore, Washington: Two pieces of excavation equipment are burned overnight at a housing development, causing around $180,000 in damage. Apparently this is the second fire at this construction site since November. The earlier fire caused $50,000 in damage. [56]

• December 16, 2005, Valley Springs, California: A window is broken and the letters E-L-F were spray-painted on the garage door of a partially constructed home. There is considerable opposition to new development and the required re-zoning in rural Calaveras County, where Valley Springs is located. [57]

[edit] 2006


January 17, 2006, Camano Island, Washington: ELF burns down a nearly completed 9,600-square-foot (890 m2), $3 million, trophy house. Investigators say that someone spray-painted a threatening message on a pink bedsheet and draped it across the front gate. [58]

• January 31, 2006, Guelph, Ontario, Canada: A fire destroys a partially constructed home. ELF claims credit for the blaze a few days later, in an email in which the group explains that the fire had been "A STRIKE AGAINST DEVELOPERS, FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY" and that it was done "in the memory of William C. Rodgers 'Avalon'."[59]

• March 11, 2006, Salem, Oregon: Three newly constructed upscale homes are vandalized with pro-environmental slogans which read: "Quit building ant farms," "E.L.F.," "Rent is theft," "Viva E.L.F." and "Don't kill my air." Additionally, a window is broken. According to authorities, this is the second time within the past two years that ELF vandals struck in this neighborhood.[60][61]

• June 27, 2006, Guelph, Ontario, Canada: A fire destroys a partially constructed home at 75 Summit Ridge, in view of the old Eastview Road landfill site. It caused about $200,000 of damage. ELF claims credit for the blaze a few days latter in an email which includes anti-development slogans.[62]

[edit] 2008


March 3, 2008, Street of Dreams, Washington: ELF is the primary suspect for the intentional destruction, by using explosive devices, set fire to four multi-million dollar homes from the 2007 Seattle Street of Dreams in Woodinville, Washington, costing $7 million in damage.[6] Authorities describe the act as "domestic terrorism" after finding the initials of the Earth Liberation Front spray-painted in red letters, mocking claims that the homes were environmentally friendly: "Built Green? Nope black! McMansions in RCDs r not green. ELF." [7][8]

• Tuesday the 25th to Friday the 28th of November, Mexico City, Mexico: a group calling itself eco-anarquista por el ataque directo (Eco-anarchist cell for direct attack) claimed responsibility for a number of recent actions, including: half a dozen Molotov cocktails thrown at tren férreo (metro rail) in Mexico City, Incendiary sabotage against Telmex, a Molotov cocktail thrown at a Banamex ATM. These attacks were claimed to have taken place “as a form of 'protest' against the construction of a new rail line (line 12), in Mexico City (D.F.) and Mexico State; already because of its construction many trees were cut down, entire families evicted and land expropriated with large hectares of green areas subsequently deforested.”[9]

[edit] 2009


January 29, Mexico City, Mexico: The Frente de Liberación de la Tierra (ELF) claimed responsibility for setting a fire within the College of Sciences and Humanities at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) along with setting fire to and destroying a construction crane. this was in response to the university building upon an ecological reserve.[10][11]

• March 22, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico: Frente de Liberación de la Tierra (ELF) set fire to construction equipment and broke windows of a local bank.[12]

• September 4, Everett, Washington: The ELF claims responsibility for the destruction of two broadcasting towers used by the local radio station KRKO.[13]

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

The police not only found out about these people. They infiltrated the group with an informant who became one of the group's leaders. Through their informant, the RCMP gave these people real weapons, fake explosives and a warehouse to store everything. Obviously some of these people had the intent to become domestic terrorists and that's good enough for a conviction. We'll never know how serious that threat would have become without RCMP assistance. Its possible these losers would not have progressed beyond foul words and getting lost in the woods during their paintball war games without RCMP assistance.

BTW, I'm not saying Islamic terrorism isn't a threat to Canada. It is. But lets put it in perspective, relative to other threats.

When new combat recruits enter basic training, most are like lost little sheep lacking skills to navigate a patrol, fight in a built up area, set explosives and engage the enemy. Having trained soldiers when they enter the recruit phase and seeing the inexperience you start with it is often you ask yourself, "How am I going to turn this into a soldier?" Once they begin to learn their craft and apply their knowledge they become very effective.

In the case of the Toronto 18 video, that was the early stages. Had they not been busted they could have posed a very definite threat to the Canadian public as they had the will to commit to the mission at hand.

Downplaying the threat is foolhardy. Even the most hardened Jihadists start out in this manner.

The group was preparing a large-scale terrorist attack in southern Ontario. They planned to detonate truck bombs at least three locations, and open fire in a crowded area. They also made plans to storm various buildings such as the Canadian Broadcasting Centre and the Canadian Parliament building, and take hostages. Law enforcement authorities identified other targets, including the CSIS, the Parliamentary Buildings' Peace Tower, and power grids.

According to one of the suspect's lawyers, they were also accused of planning to "behead the Prime Minister", Stephen Harper, and other leaders.]

Members of the group are also accused of ordering fertilizer to build the truck bombs, constructing a remote-control detonator, and scouting a safe house to store weapons, practice military drills, and harbor terrorists.

Thankfully, these guys were infiltrated, but terrorists aren't unpacked from a box frothing at the mouth screaming, "Allah Akbar!" They start out inexperienced and immature until that is stripped away and then they are built up to be what they are.

 

[darkbeaver]

A "hardened Jihadists" is usually made from a shepherd a mechanic or a shopkeeper whose had his living and his house and his community wreaked by filthy stinking disgusting international bankers and gutless spitlickers like Harper, the shame of Canada.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

A "hardened Jihadists" is usually made from a shepherd a mechanic or a shopkeeper whose had his living and his house and his community wreaked by filthy stinking disgusting international bankers and gutless spitlickers like Harper, the shame of Canada.

Thanks for clearing that up DB.

 

[Goober]

I apologize to all the Toronto 18 victims. Please remind me, how many people did they kill again after their RCMP informant supplied them with guns and fake explosives?

I apologize to all the families of all the Canadians who died as a Muslim terrorist attacks in Canada. Perhaps you can list their names, so i know who I am apologizing to, since I am unaware of a single Muslim extremist attack on Canadian soil.

While I am somewhat concerned about all the people who have died as a result of Muslim extremist attacks in Canada, I am very concerned by the threat posed by farm animals.

If Harper really wanted to protect Canadians, he'd be doing something about the farm animal menace.


Goober you never answered my question:
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/members-lounge/101737-more-forum-intrigue-4.html#post1473177

You have a knack for posting polls that are slanted. Much like your viewpoint. Why was CB included in that poll. Because he spanks your ass like the child you are.

Next - If the TO 18 had not been infiltrated what would the cas rate be. Yes working and supplying dummy materials thru fronts is standard operating procedure for police. Are you that dumb?