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Ahh I stand corrected Goober. The study was posted on Slate.com and included all significant ethnic groups in the US. That study said that over the last 20 years Jews have started marrying outside of their ethnic group since they felt safe and secure in Western society.
I read that as democracies. Would that be correct. In areas where they are not safe then the rates would be lower. Lots of countries in Eastern Europe have an intense dislike for Jews shall we say. Throw in the ME and it is worse for Jews there.
All children born to a mother who is Jewish are considered to be Jewish. It is not like a treaty Indian who lose their status should they marry outside of the 'forced collective'
I sometimes wonder where your info comes from. Facts certainly don't appear to be a requirement yet you demand it in others who are not Jewish. Europe has been kicking Jews around for 1700 years, apparently to the point that killing them was 'the best solution'. Yet Jews have been liking with Arabs for 3x that long and no threat of continuous persecution. If anything they were held to a 'modest lifestyle righ along with their Arab neighbors.
Do you have any proof that South African Jews defended Judge Goldstone when Israli Jews were persecuting him because of the UN report he was part of? An actual link, just like you demand of others.
I think any relationship with Israel is too expensive. The Israeli states despicable reputation should prevent any responsible parent from allowing their children to play anywhere near Israel. Unless it's to bring them to long over due trial.
Of course not.
Perhaps that is because, until recently, Jews were isolated not only by their own tendency to stick together, but by the bias against them of the larger society.
Might I suggest to you that, until recently, Blacks were unlikely to marry outside of their race.......does that mean Blacks hate everyone else?
Suddenly your hypotheses seems a little ridiculous, doesn't it???
Europeans that spent the better part of 2,000 years restricting, persecuting, exploiting, murdering Jews, culminating in the orgiastic climax of violence in which fully one third of the world population, some 5.7 million Jews, were murdered.
That is who forced them to be there.
People like you.
Zionism is only good sense to anyone that understands Jewish history.
Perhaps, somewhere, you have an argument to make?
I sincerely doubt most religious Christians would welcome a Jew into their family.....so what exactly is your point?
Mankind is zenophobic and tribal?
yep, Granted. It is a defense mechanism.
And NO culture on earth has more reason for a survival instinct.
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Here is the simple fact, ladies and gentlemen.
Israel is the frontier of western civilization.........on the other side of Israel lies the barbarians.....the adherents of the lunatic death cult that is Islam.........the followers of a violent rapist, genocidal murderer, and pedophile named Mohammed that lived 1400 years ago......and they consider him to be an example.
Israel, as the outpost of our culture, our freedom, our civilization, deserves respect and support.
Not the back-stabbing stupidity of self-righteous idiots.
Perhaps if you have an argument to make with the post, you should tackle the source..........
Like me??? You forget to get your rabies shot, you're starting to foam at the chops.
How much of that 2,000 years was spent acting like they did in the 430 years they were in Egypt before the Exodus? Just sayin, ...... a guest should be somewhat humble when seeking sanctuary in a foreign land. trying to take over all the best positions isn't going to be welcomed by those who already fill those same positions. Why not get some fake papers and just move back covertly?
How much of that 2,000 years was spent acting like they did in the 430 years they were in Egypt before the Exodus? Just sayin, ...... a guest should be somewhat humble when seeking sanctuary in a foreign land. trying to take over all the best positions isn't going to be welcomed by those who already fill those same positions. Why not get some fake papers and just move back covertly?
Excuse me? Would you have the class to offer an apology for that hideous reference?
I would suggest that Jewish tribalism causes persecution, not the other way around. That keeps the horse ahead of the cart, and implies that Jews take a little responsibility for the horrible treatment they've endured. Even today we see growing resentment towards Jews due to their tribalism, their ethnic chauvinism. Look what happend to Charlie Sheen when he used that persons real name, not his Goyim sounding screen name. Why do so many Hollywood executives make up a fake name? Why are they defensive?
Look at Wall Street, look at the Holocaust industry sponsored by Hollywood Jews. It seems being Jewish is a prerequisite to working as a Wall Street or Hollywood executive.
Zionism didn't exist 150 years ago. Jewish thought about "returning" is a relatively new thing. Prior to the 1880's no Jew would return to "that backward land" and why should they? They should feel safe and secure wherever they are. However it's interesting to see how Jews treat minorities when they are in a position of power. Perhaps this gives clues to faults in Jewish thinking and their penchant for speaking from a position of perpetual victimhood.
Perhaps you have not considered the Jews place a high value on an education. That did not appear to e considered in your racist rant.
You sound a lot like dumpy with his continuous rants about indians. Ill informed and poorly thought out even though some of the time you are on the right track.
People native to a land like education just as much as anybody, if Jews came in and suddenly they were getting the most from the country why making up the least then trouble is going to happen. Would they have lasted 400 years in Egypt if they had moved in ob the Palace jobs? I'm sure you would agree that any Nationality educated the same would be just as profenient at their profession as any Jew would be.
lol, nice of you to leave us guessing as to what point belongs with what conclusion in that some were right and some went the other way.
Man, you drank the entire bowl of kool aid.
The problem is Jews HAVE been perpetually victims since the destruction of the Temple and the diaspora 2,000 years ago.
Might I suggest you do a slight overview of the history of Jews in Europe??? You'll find that the Holocaust was simply the logical conclusion to centuries of Jew hatred, repression and murder as the Jews were "killers of Christ" and the lenders of money......
suspected of witchcraft and blamed for every negative occurance. Just as a quick learning experience, take a look at what happened to the Jewish community during the Black Death...
Black Death - Jew Massacres
As for how Jews treat minorities.........I always ask the same question:
Would you rather be an Arab in Israel, or a Jew in any Arab country?
Think about that.
To any thinking Jew, Zionism is only good sense.
And yes, that is because of people like you.
Spoken by somebody who knows all about it. Feeding people lies did not start when Christianity started.Man, you drank the entire bowl of kool aid.
If nothing else at least you are consistent. Try using arguments that help your case rather than hurt it. The first time God removed them from the land was after they sold one of their own into slavery. That is how they were released from slavery when Moses, it had nothing to do with persecution from Egypt's elite. (Moses's own mother worked in the 'Palace' as a paid servant) They did not serve in the military apparently nor did they run the upper level of businesses. God left them there for exactly 430 years and after that length of time going back to the same area they had come from was going to a new land, one that required many acts of war. Those acts of war were going on with Jewish consent even while Germans were being killed for similar acts during a time of stated war. The math is beyond you, you should be aware there is some math that needs to be done before 'in stone' conclusions can be made, if that part escapes you I can rest my case right here.
Lets examine your statement as closely as all those various exiles have been investigated.
'logical conclusion' means the killing of 6M Jewish people (using your data) was something that could be seen by 'somebody' who presumably had the ways and means to 'detour' that event yet they did nothing, even while it was going on news was kept down about that happening because it is common knowledge (written down) that the slaughter of the Jews was not known until the war was over. Yet, it was a 'conclusion' reached some time earlier, well that only goes back to when some 'radicals' got funding to do something that we would consider to be 'hostile' to an existing people in an existing land. The UN has signed documents from everybody, including Israel, that says they will act in a certain way. Hate to bring up the past past but do those documents have the same false promises as all treaties made with the Indians of the Americas? If they are made to govern only the losing side of a conflict then the losers might as well be the ones breaking the treaties, so far history will show it was not the Indians breaking them, if anything they actually tried to live within the agreements. Why not create a document that is very detailed as to what is and is not allowed so future court cases are minimal.
Let's use Israel and Palestine as an example. Through the magic of the written word the parameters are about to change. The 1947 borders are established as is the voter list as far as percentages go. Land titles are restored and if unavailable a lager portion will be given to those that say they have roots, that means they also agree to live on that land for 3 generations. Any changes means the Jews cut the Arabs a cheque for 'rent'. The opposite would happen for Gaza and the West Bank, if Jews had claims to land there and Arabs have poswession then 'rent' is due whiler the possession cases are heard. Something along those lines and that brings us upto living in the 21st century. Say in what should be south/eastern Gaza is a very small village made up of Arabs who are comfortable living the old ways and a new highway is slated to pass right by. Rather than use the current method say they were 'integrated' in a way that was as 'gentle' as possible. Send in a 'survey crew' and get it mapped out with a list that the 'elders' wanted to keep and what could be changed and then the must be changed list. Anyway, off site all the components are assembled including 21st century models of the structures that were to be preserved and all the underground was in kit form so come moving day the residents and their personal belongings were moved and demolition and reconstruction began with a large workforce going 24./7. The new mud/brick dwellings looked the same as the old but fully wired and plugged into modern conviences. The target audience are the kids, let them grow up with all the gadgets that they will use later in society. The old guys will die off content in seeing that the old ways were respevted and kept alive in memory and DVD.
Plunking new homes and new cars on reservations didn't work out as well as planned, perhaps a update to what their villages used to look like would have worked out better. Who knows an electric TeePee and a monorail public trans might have made them happy as far as integrating that part of the modern into their existing culture. Wiping people out as we move in for the resources has to be traded in for a different method, the victims have caught on and they aren't willing to let it go on. Consumers are demanding the same rights the Magana Carta gave the Merchants. (BTW the Merchants should have been putting Royalty under contract as Merchants were the most powerful at that moment, strong but somewhat dart in looking far ahead at the bigger picture)
What do you hope to achieve by becoming equal to a skipping vinyl record? In the short time since the last time you mentioned it do you expect the answers to have changed very much?
Ask a Jew living in Iran rather than using your imagination, if it was 'bad' it would be all over the news as Jews have influence in that area, even to the point of keeping something hidden that should really be widely known to help people understand the issue in the true light that only comes from facts that have a singular meaning.
You could clue us in on why you can be such a fan of Israel without wanting to move there, or at least convert to their religion.
Fine if you do not like my reply - Rebut it or Fuk off.
Here it is again
Perhaps you have not considered the Jews place a high value on an education. That did not appear to e considered in your racist rant.
Meh, when Sony bought Columbia pictures they knew how to play the Hollywood game and every executive hired was Jewish. Ever culture place high value on education. Most cultures do not have teh sense of superiority or ethnic chauvinism that Jews have. It's not education that gets you a job in Hollywood, it's your ethnic identity.
Look what happened to Rick Santorum when he ranted about John Stewart (aka Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz) hiring just Jews to run his show. He war fired within hours. When Marlon Brando asked "why hasn't hollywood made a movie about the kike" his acting career was ended. While Hollywood actors/actresses support almost every cause under the sun, you won't hear any of them supporting the Palestinians.
The Arabs in Israel don't feel so good about being there. Sure you can claim they have their own MK's (Members of the Knesset) but they have to be approved/vetted by Israeli authorities. Things aren't so democratic for them no? I wonder if Iran offered Israeli Arabs $60,000 how many of them would move? I would surmise more than none. As such I'd rather be a Jew in an Arab country. And so would you.
I'd like to change the topic here: how is it possible for 3,000,000 Jews wandering around the Sinai desert for 40 years didn't leave a single trace of their time there? Heck even Israeli archaeologists have given up trying to find a "scratch on a rock." The Exodus is just a myth. Did you know that tradesman building the pyramids were paid? It seems not all Jews were slaves or treated any differently than non-Jews. But these are all incovenient truths for you since they challenge the Jewish narrative, the perpetual victim marrative.
How did Moses communicate or convince a wagon train hundreds of miles long that they would cross teh Red Sea? Surely some of them would of taken a more logical, rational path. Surely? Yet these kids tales, after beign told for 100's of years became the narrative.
I used to visit a site called "Israeli Insider." It was a hard core Zionist site. They used to have maps of the history of Israel. Did you know Colby that prior to the last centruy Jews had political power for only 60 of the past 3500 years? It's suggest that Jews were a minority in Israel/Palestine even at the height of David or Soloman's empire - one which Prof. Norm Finkelstein desribes it as being less of an empire and more of a "cow town." Israeli Insider took the maps of the political history down - it's seems the truth was rather inconvenient.
Myths, lies, self serving narratives - these form the basis of Israeli history. Sorry for the harsh words, I just think if you become more truthful with yourselves, you'll be more truthful with others.
I wouldn't care about modern Jewish tribalism or ethnic chauvinism (just about every head of the Central Bank in every Western Country is Jewish) except taht one day people will respond violently to this. It isn't these rich, well connected Jews which will be hurt - they'll fly away, it is the average, everyday Jew like yourself which will suffer.
Why am I so well versed in this subject? Well in University I ran for student office. I came second because every Jew voted for one of their own. I know this since the executive strongly supported me, and they (illegally) shared the vote results with me.
It's the only time of my life I suffered from discrimination. But it certainly opened my eyes.
Look what happened to Rick Santorum when he ranted about John Stewart (aka Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz) hiring just Jews to run his show. He war fired within hours. When Marlon Brando asked "why hasn't hollywood made a movie about the kike" his acting career was ended. While Hollywood actors/actresses support almost every cause under the sun, you won't hear any of them supporting the Palestinians.
Well, Israel offered each Iranian Jewish family $60,000 to emmigrate, iirc none took the offer. Not a one. It's seems Jews in atleast Iran are quite content.
The Arabs in Israel don't feel so good about being there. Sure you can claim they have their own MK's (Members of the Knesset) but they have to be approved/vetted by Israeli authorities. Things aren't so democratic for them no? I wonder if Iran offered Israeli Arabs $60,000 how many of them would move? I would surmise more than none. As such I'd rather be a Jew in an Arab country. And so would you.
I'd like to change the topic here: how is it possible for 3,000,000 Jews wandering around the Sinai desert for 40 years didn't leave a single trace of their time there? Heck even Israeli archaeologists have given up trying to find a "scratch on a rock." The Exodus is just a myth. Did you know that tradesman building the pyramids were paid? It seems not all Jews were slaves or treated any differently than non-Jews. But these are all incovenient truths for you since they challenge the Jewish narrative, the perpetual victim marrative.
How did Moses communicate or convince a wagon train hundreds of miles long that they would cross teh Red Sea? Surely some of them would of taken a more logical, rational path. Surely? Yet these kids tales, after beign told for 100's of years became the narrative.
I used to visit a site called "Israeli Insider." It was a hard core Zionist site. They used to have maps of the history of Israel. Did you know Colby that prior to the last centruy Jews had political power for only 60 of the past 3500 years? It's suggest that Jews were a minority in Israel/Palestine even at the height of David or Soloman's empire - one which Prof. Norm Finkelstein desribes it as being less of an empire and more of a "cow town." Israeli Insider took the maps of the political history down - it's seems the truth was rather inconvenient.
Myths, lies, self serving narratives - these form the basis of Israeli history. Sorry for the harsh words, I just think if you become more truthful with yourselves, you'll be more truthful with others.
I wouldn't care about modern Jewish tribalism or ethnic chauvinism (just about every head of the Central Bank in every Western Country is Jewish) except taht one day people will respond violently to this. It isn't these rich, well connected Jews which will be hurt - they'll fly away, it is the average, everyday Jew like yourself which will suffer.
Why am I so well versed in this subject? Well in University I ran for student office. I came second because every Jew voted for one of their own. I know this since the executive strongly supported me, and they (illegally) shared the vote results with me.
It's the only time of my life I suffered from discrimination. But it certainly opened my eyes.
Any links on the 60 K - And why do you not expand upon your racist rant. So Jews are to blame. Really.
Perhaps people saw you for what you are, not what you think or pretend to be and they see you warts and all. How old are you, 12?
Not only a poor loser, but one behaving with a lack of ethics.
Probably will blame the joos forever because his feelings were hurt that he wasn't voted biggest asshole of the year.
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Myths, lies, self serving narratives - these form the basis of Israeli history. Sorry for the harsh words, I just think if you become more truthful with yourselves, you'll be more truthful with others.
I wouldn't care about modern Jewish tribalism or ethnic chauvinism (just about every head of the Central Bank in every Western Country is Jewish) except taht one day people will respond violently to this. It isn't these rich, well connected Jews which will be hurt - they'll fly away, it is the average, everyday Jew like yourself which will suffer.
Why am I so well versed in this subject? Well in University I ran for student office. I came second because every Jew voted for one of their own. I know this since the executive strongly supported me, and they (illegally) shared the vote results with me.
It's the only time of my life I suffered from discrimination. But it certainly opened my eyes.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't be because none of the jews were willing to vote for a racist could it?
Myths, lies, self serving narratives - these form the basis of Israeli history. Sorry for the harsh words, I just think if you become more truthful with yourselves, you'll be more truthful with others.
I wouldn't care about modern Jewish tribalism or ethnic chauvinism (just about every head of the Central Bank in every Western Country is Jewish) except taht one day people will respond violently to this. It isn't these rich, well connected Jews which will be hurt - they'll fly away, it is the average, everyday Jew like yourself which will suffer.
Why am I so well versed in this subject? Well in University I ran for student office. I came second because every Jew voted for one of their own. I know this since the executive strongly supported me, and they (illegally) shared the vote results with me.
It's the only time of my life I suffered from discrimination. But it certainly opened my eyes.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't be because none of the jews were willing to vote for a racist could it?
The people who helped Jews were those that saw through anti-Jewish propaganda and other perception manipulations. Today anti-Islam propaganda and perception manipulations are pervasive. Easily manipulated people who fall for demonizing propaganda are least like those who risked their lives to help Jews, Roma, Jehovah Witnesses, Blacks, Slavs... avoid Nazi death camps
Zionism caused a relatively peaceful corner of the world to suffer the world's longest running ethnic cleansing war. The holy lands should be the world's most popular tourist destination. Instead the Zionists have redeemed the land with walls, razor wire and guard towers to imprison the people God didn't chose.