Hamas attacks Israel
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The Special Military Operation to get those Avoz bastards out of the West Bank to rescue the Hebrew speaking people from the Arabs.
The Russians are currently the buddies of Iran (so Hezbollah, Houthi’s, Iranian National Whatever, and several other semi independent but dependent militias reliant on Iran, etc…) at this point, right? Isn’t Putin siding with not-Israel & not-USA? Generally those that haven’t criticized the Ukraine/Russia scuffle? Is a 3 day invasion that’s already stretched to over 2 years still considered a scuffle
(I doubt I’d want to live under Orthodox Jews, Orthodox Muslims, Orthodox Christians, or Orthodox Anyone else)
Anyway, back to the two state thing I guess:
Same the other way, so I’m assuming the Israelis better learn how to swim, permanently.
Hmmm…two sides (at least) to every story. Back on October 7th, from the Cell Phone & GoPro video from the Hamas Militant Wing and the participating Palestinians, and even from some of the Israelis that morning…the antagonists refer to corpses of the murdered as ”Jews,” “dogs” and “settlers.” Not once do they refer to them as Israelis. They cannot bring themselves to utter the word. The victims are utterly dehumanized and demonized. Weird that.
According to whom? On what side? Starting with the most (or is it second most?) recent breaking of the cease-fire? Some other starting point?
Paywalled article. I’ll hunt for one that’s not locked when time permits. I’m assuming, without currently having access to it, it’s a mirror reflection of the Arab side of the story wanting to rescue the world from the existence of the Jews/Zionists/etc…? Something like the special military operation the morning of Oct 7th but from the Hamas/Palestinian/Arab perspective?
For the first several decades (from the Peel thing forward) regarding a two state solution, it reads like the Israeli’s where for it and Arabs rejected it, repeatedly.
Areas enclosed within the red line were part of the proposed Jewish state. The black line with hatched area represents an "enclave" (or "corridor") that was proposed as an international zone to remain under British control and administration, in recognition of Jerusalem's religious and historical importance to Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
Peel Commission - Wikipedia
Two-state solution - Wikipedia
Proposed 2 state solutions since 1937 as far as I can see. Maybe further, but at least to 1937. Never worked. Never accepted by both sides.
Because Israel refuses to stop settling the West Bank. Same refusal for 57 years. That's why there's a Hamas.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit
By Cate Brown
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT
Israel’s far-right finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, announced the seizure of 10 square kilometers (3.8 square miles) of Palestinian territory in the West Bank on Friday. The move marks the single largest land seizure by the Israeli government since the 1993 Oslo accords, according to Peace Now, a settlement watchdog group.
“While there are those in Israel and the world who seek to undermine our right over the Judea and Samaria area and the country in general,” Smotrich said Friday, referring to the territory by its biblical name, “we are promoting settlement through hard work and in a strategic manner all over the country.”
Israeli settlements in the West Bank are considered illegal under international law. Still, Israel has used land orders like the one issued Friday to gain control over 16 percent of Palestinian-controlled lands in the West Bank. The newly seized area includes parcels in the Jordan Valley and between the settlements of Maale Adumim and Keidar.
Pay attention!
Russians in Israel or Russian Israelis are post-Soviet Russian citizens who immigrate to Israel and their descendants. As of 2022, Russian-speakers number around 1,300,000 people, or 15% of the Israeli population.[3][4] This number, however, also includes immigrants from the Soviet Union and post-Soviet states other than Russia proper.[1][5
They are Likud....
You can't blame one side in this. From what I have read, 1967 two state solution failed because the Palestinans would not accept Israel as a state. Both sides are guilty as hell at preventing any type of peace in the area. And yes, Israel is blatantly breaking. international law. They realize nobody enforces it.
Who is blaming one side? Again Israeli propaganda...how can there be a Palestinian state without recognizing Israel as a state? Pure propaganda.
They've came close to a deal numerous times and it hasn't been the propaganda heard over and over and over and over as to why they've failed. It's Israel not Palestine not wanting to settle by a long shot.
Read this to get caught up and learn about what really happened since the Oslo Accord in 91cuz what you two are claiming is far from accurate and a perfect example of regurgitated shit fed to the west.
Israel-Palestine: the real reason there’s still no peace
The long read: The possibility of a lasting deal seems as far away as ever – and the history of failed negotiations suggests it’s largely because Israel prefers the status quo
Yes Israel has no respect for international laws and gets away with it by using a 75 year old guilt trip.
Yeah yeah yeah "River to the sea" shit and blah blah blah "genocide". They can have their propaganda rally cries too can they not?
Sooooo how many Hamas remain holed up and how many dead? What's the score? Who is winning?
Why has Israel killed 200+ aid workers?
What was the purpose of bombing Iranian embassy in Syria? To trigger the Samson option when Iran retaliates? Netanyahu is a far bigger threat to the world than anyone else with nukes. He'll use them long before Putin will.
Samson Option - Wikipedia
You could say the two state idea has been around since Britian agreed during WWI to give Palestine it's own state if they helped defeat the Ottoman Empire. And Israel was already a sort of 'plan in the works' so...
Israel-Palestine: the real reason there’s still no peace
The long read: The possibility of a lasting deal seems as far away as ever – and the history of failed negotiations suggests it’s largely because Israel prefers the status quo
It's a long read but explains everything very well.
It might surprise you.
I would not willingly live under the rule of any religious fruitcakes. Which is exactly what muslims are.
So you'd have issue with the Orthodoxy in Judaism also controlling Israel?
Christians controlling the US?
Because their extreme branches - religious fruitcakes if you will - are trying real hard to get control too.
It's what they (Isreal) is waiting for. This could have over decades ago if Israel would exit the West Bank.
Taking more West Bank land 2 weeks ago says Bibi has zero intent of doing so and not only pisses Palestinians but Israel's supporting allies.
It won't be long until an international peacekeeping force enters Gaza stopping the indiscriminate slaughter.
What do you think Jews currently running Israel are but not Religious zealots? Cute little bunny rabbits?