Hamas attacks Israel

[Serryah]

Which international law?

Serious question. I want to look it up.

Legality of Israeli settlements - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Chapter 3: Israeli Settlements and International Law

www.amnesty.org

Interview with Dr. Mark Ellis : Israeli Settlements under International Law

Les clés du Moyen-Orient est un site d’information sur l’histoire et l’actualité du Moyen-Orient. Selon la ligne éditoriale du site : « Comment (...)

www.lesclesdumoyenorient.com

https://ieim.uqam.ca/IMG/pdf/Int_l_Law_and_the_Israeli-Pales.pdf

Israel’s Settlements Have No Legal Validity, Constitute Flagrant Violation of International Law, Security Council Reaffirms | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases

14 Delegations in Favour of Resolution 2334 (2016) as United States Abstains The Security Council reaffirmed this afternoon that Israel’s establishment of settlements in Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, had no legal validity, constituting a flagrant violation...

press.un.org

Now the US doesn't recognize these things as "Illegal", but it suits them to ignore the actual reality/facts of it.

But just because the US "doesn't recognize it", doesn't mean it's not illegal, especially not when the Security Council (without the US, who abstained, of course) affirmed that yes, they are illegal.



As an aside, Canada's stance:

Occupied Territories and Settlements
Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip). The Fourth Geneva Convention applies in the occupied territories and establishes Israel's obligations as an occupying power, in particular with respect to the humane treatment of the inhabitants of the occupied territories. As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.

Canada believes that both Israel and the Palestinian Authority must fully respect international human rights and humanitarian law which is key to ensuring the protection of civilians, and can contribute to the creation of a climate conducive to achieving a just, lasting and comprehensive peace settlement.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

International law is a tricky business. Generally, treaties, conventions, and such are binding only on the parties signatory to them.

The International Court of Justice, a.k.a. the World Court, can only hear cases where the parties are countries. Not subdivisions of countries, not rebel groups, not international organizations. Recognized countries only.

There is also a "common law" of nations, but that's even trickier.

Finally, let's say for a moment that "Palestine" gets recognized by enough countries that the ICJ rules that it is a country. Palestine sues Israel over Gaza, and let's say Israel (under heavy pressure) accepts the authority of the ICJ, and the ICJ finds Israel's ongoing "war" in Gaza "illegal" under the common law of nations and orders Israel to stop. Israel says "Fuck you." Now what?

Well, the UN Security Council would have to resolve to intervene, somehow getting the permanent members to all go along and not cast a veto. So they put together a "peacekeeping force" with a mandate to throw Israel out of Gaza. The force will have only units from national armies who pony up units voluntarily.

Difficult, especially with the U.S. likely to veto any Security Council action.

 

[Ron in Regina]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/gaza-israel-hamas-07-22-25

If that’s where that picture came from then thank you. So many of these pictures without context (& many that claim content) aren’t from the conflict claimed or even recent times, or are from completely unrelated situations, etc…

Photo was from Israeli news Haaretz

Ok. Did it say what that child was suffering from disease wise? Diabetes maybe? It’s ugly & thats just a little boy. Why isn’t the Doctor Dude starving?


Heart wrenching pictures.

Why aren’t the Mother & other boy starving here? Is she picking favourites?

Wait, what?

Paliwooding? Nah….but, Gaza Health Authority, etc…

There’s a couple skinny dudes. These Palestinians look like they’re starving.

 

[spaminator]

Canada to recognize Palestinian state in September
PM Carney says Canada plans on making the proclamation at the UN General Assembly this September

Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Jul 30, 2025 • Last updated 12 hours ago • 3 minute read

OTTAWA — Canada intends to officially recognize a sovereign state of Palestine at the United Nations General Assembly this September.


The announcement was made by Prime Minister Mark Carney at a last-minute press conference on Parliament Hill late Wednesday afternoon, after a cabinet meeting convened to discuss concerns with Israel’s ongoing operation in Gaza.


“This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment to much-needed reforms — including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President (Mahmoud) Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state,” Carney said.

“Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong, democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful and hopeful future.”


Carney’s announcement comes just days after British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he’d do the same if Israel didn’t take steps to reduce suffering in Gaza, enact a ceasefire and not annex any more land in the West Bank.

“The level of human suffering in Gaza is intolerable, and it’s rapidly deteriorating,” Carney said in English before switching to French.

“Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed, thousands more are on the brink of famine. Canada condemns the fact that the Israeli government has let the situation deteriorate in Gaza to this extent.”

Foreign Minister Anita Anand, who spent the week attending high-level meetings at the United Nations in New York on the topic, stood by Carney’s side during Wednesday’s press conference.


“International co-operation is essential to securing lasting peace and stability in the Middle East, and Canada will do its best to help lead that effort,” Carney said.

“Canada has long been committed to a two-state solution — an independent, viable, and sovereign Palestinian state living side-by-side with the State of Israel in peace and security.”

Those hopes, he said, have been eroded by ongoing Palestinian terrorism, including the Oct. 7 2023 terror attacks, accelerated settlements across the West Bank and East Jerusalem, recent votes in the Knesset calling for the annexation of the West Bank, and Israeli government actions in Gaza, with Carney accusing Israel of impeding access to food and medical supplies.


Addressing the explosion of antisemitism Canada’s seen since the Oct. 7 attacks, Carney said legislation would be introduced this fall to criminalize intentionally blocking access to places-of-worship, community centres and schools.

Anti-Israel activists have frequently targeted Jewish schools, synagogues and businesses since Oct. 7, staging demonstrations, intimidation marches and even opening fire.

“The heinous attacks of Oct. 7th traumatized the Jewish people in Israel, here in Canada and around the world,” Carney said.

“With each day that the remaining hostages and their remains are not returned, families live in fear and grief.”

ISRAEL REJECTS CANADA’S MOVE
In a statement, Canada’s Israeli embassy rejected the gesture, saying it rewards Hamas’ barbarism and punishes both Israeli and Palestinian victims of terror.


“Let us be clear: Israel will not bow to the distorted campaign of international pressure against it,” said Israeli Ambassador Iddo Moed.

“We will not sacrifice our very existence by permitting the imposition of a jihadist state on our ancestral homeland that seeks our annihilation.”

The Conservative Party of Canada, while supporting the idea of a two-state solution, said recognizing it in the aftermath of Oct. 7 sends the wrong message.

“A unilateral declaration of Palestinian statehood, without peace negotiations or a renunciation of violence, destroys the path to a durable, two-state solution,” read a statement.

“Worse, it legitimizes terrorism by handing political rewards to a group that rules Gaza through fear, oppression, and brutality.”

bpassifiume@postmedia.com
X: @bryanpassifiume

Canada to recognize Palestinian state in September

PM Carney says Canada plans on making the proclamation at the UN General Assembly this September

torontosun.com

 

[spaminator]

Canada to recognize Palestinian state in September
PM Carney says Canada plans on making the proclamation at the UN General Assembly this September

Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Jul 30, 2025 • Last updated 12 hours ago • 3 minute read

OTTAWA — Canada intends to officially recognize a sovereign state of Palestine at the United Nations General Assembly this September.


The announcement was made by Prime Minister Mark Carney at a last-minute press conference on Parliament Hill late Wednesday afternoon, after a cabinet meeting convened to discuss concerns with Israel’s ongoing operation in Gaza.


“This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment to much-needed reforms — including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President (Mahmoud) Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state,” Carney said.

“Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong, democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful and hopeful future.”


Carney’s announcement comes just days after British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he’d do the same if Israel didn’t take steps to reduce suffering in Gaza, enact a ceasefire and not annex any more land in the West Bank.

“The level of human suffering in Gaza is intolerable, and it’s rapidly deteriorating,” Carney said in English before switching to French.

“Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed, thousands more are on the brink of famine. Canada condemns the fact that the Israeli government has let the situation deteriorate in Gaza to this extent.”

Foreign Minister Anita Anand, who spent the week attending high-level meetings at the United Nations in New York on the topic, stood by Carney’s side during Wednesday’s press conference.


“International co-operation is essential to securing lasting peace and stability in the Middle East, and Canada will do its best to help lead that effort,” Carney said.

“Canada has long been committed to a two-state solution — an independent, viable, and sovereign Palestinian state living side-by-side with the State of Israel in peace and security.”

Those hopes, he said, have been eroded by ongoing Palestinian terrorism, including the Oct. 7 2023 terror attacks, accelerated settlements across the West Bank and East Jerusalem, recent votes in the Knesset calling for the annexation of the West Bank, and Israeli government actions in Gaza, with Carney accusing Israel of impeding access to food and medical supplies.


Addressing the explosion of antisemitism Canada’s seen since the Oct. 7 attacks, Carney said legislation would be introduced this fall to criminalize intentionally blocking access to places-of-worship, community centres and schools.

Anti-Israel activists have frequently targeted Jewish schools, synagogues and businesses since Oct. 7, staging demonstrations, intimidation marches and even opening fire.

“The heinous attacks of Oct. 7th traumatized the Jewish people in Israel, here in Canada and around the world,” Carney said.

“With each day that the remaining hostages and their remains are not returned, families live in fear and grief.”

ISRAEL REJECTS CANADA’S MOVE
In a statement, Canada’s Israeli embassy rejected the gesture, saying it rewards Hamas’ barbarism and punishes both Israeli and Palestinian victims of terror.


“Let us be clear: Israel will not bow to the distorted campaign of international pressure against it,” said Israeli Ambassador Iddo Moed.

“We will not sacrifice our very existence by permitting the imposition of a jihadist state on our ancestral homeland that seeks our annihilation.”

The Conservative Party of Canada, while supporting the idea of a two-state solution, said recognizing it in the aftermath of Oct. 7 sends the wrong message.

“A unilateral declaration of Palestinian statehood, without peace negotiations or a renunciation of violence, destroys the path to a durable, two-state solution,” read a statement.

“Worse, it legitimizes terrorism by handing political rewards to a group that rules Gaza through fear, oppression, and brutality.”

bpassifiume@postmedia.com
X: @bryanpassifiume

Canada to recognize Palestinian state in September

PM Carney says Canada plans on making the proclamation at the UN General Assembly this September

torontosun.com

i was hoping that canada would have stayed out of this mess.
i guess the liberals will be getting more palestinian votes.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Canada to recognize Palestinian state in September
PM Carney says Canada plans on making the proclamation at the UN General Assembly this September

Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Jul 30, 2025 • Last updated 12 hours ago • 3 minute read

OTTAWA — Canada intends to officially recognize a sovereign state of Palestine at the United Nations General Assembly this September.


The announcement was made by Prime Minister Mark Carney at a last-minute press conference on Parliament Hill late Wednesday afternoon, after a cabinet meeting convened to discuss concerns with Israel’s ongoing operation in Gaza.


“This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment to much-needed reforms — including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President (Mahmoud) Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state,” Carney said.

“Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong, democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful and hopeful future.”


Carney’s announcement comes just days after British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he’d do the same if Israel didn’t take steps to reduce suffering in Gaza, enact a ceasefire and not annex any more land in the West Bank.

“The level of human suffering in Gaza is intolerable, and it’s rapidly deteriorating,” Carney said in English before switching to French.

“Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed, thousands more are on the brink of famine. Canada condemns the fact that the Israeli government has let the situation deteriorate in Gaza to this extent.”

Foreign Minister Anita Anand, who spent the week attending high-level meetings at the United Nations in New York on the topic, stood by Carney’s side during Wednesday’s press conference.


“International co-operation is essential to securing lasting peace and stability in the Middle East, and Canada will do its best to help lead that effort,” Carney said.

“Canada has long been committed to a two-state solution — an independent, viable, and sovereign Palestinian state living side-by-side with the State of Israel in peace and security.”

Those hopes, he said, have been eroded by ongoing Palestinian terrorism, including the Oct. 7 2023 terror attacks, accelerated settlements across the West Bank and East Jerusalem, recent votes in the Knesset calling for the annexation of the West Bank, and Israeli government actions in Gaza, with Carney accusing Israel of impeding access to food and medical supplies.


Addressing the explosion of antisemitism Canada’s seen since the Oct. 7 attacks, Carney said legislation would be introduced this fall to criminalize intentionally blocking access to places-of-worship, community centres and schools.

Anti-Israel activists have frequently targeted Jewish schools, synagogues and businesses since Oct. 7, staging demonstrations, intimidation marches and even opening fire.

“The heinous attacks of Oct. 7th traumatized the Jewish people in Israel, here in Canada and around the world,” Carney said.

“With each day that the remaining hostages and their remains are not returned, families live in fear and grief.”

ISRAEL REJECTS CANADA’S MOVE
In a statement, Canada’s Israeli embassy rejected the gesture, saying it rewards Hamas’ barbarism and punishes both Israeli and Palestinian victims of terror.


“Let us be clear: Israel will not bow to the distorted campaign of international pressure against it,” said Israeli Ambassador Iddo Moed.

“We will not sacrifice our very existence by permitting the imposition of a jihadist state on our ancestral homeland that seeks our annihilation.”

The Conservative Party of Canada, while supporting the idea of a two-state solution, said recognizing it in the aftermath of Oct. 7 sends the wrong message.

“A unilateral declaration of Palestinian statehood, without peace negotiations or a renunciation of violence, destroys the path to a durable, two-state solution,” read a statement.

“Worse, it legitimizes terrorism by handing political rewards to a group that rules Gaza through fear, oppression, and brutality.”

bpassifiume@postmedia.com
X: @bryanpassifiume

Canada to recognize Palestinian state in September

PM Carney says Canada plans on making the proclamation at the UN General Assembly this September

torontosun.com

i was hoping that canada would have stayed out of this mess.
i guess the liberals will be getting more palestinian votes.

 

[Taxslave2]

“This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment to much-needed reforms — including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President (Mahmoud) Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state,” Carney said.

So not a snowball's chance in hell of it happening. Carnage, like turdOWE did a head count, and found there are more potential Muslim votes than Jewish votes.

 

[Ron in Regina]

So not a snowball's chance in hell of it happening. Carnage, like turdOWE did a head count, and found there are more potential Muslim votes than Jewish votes.

4:1 but why now with this announcement?