Hamas attacks Israel

Tecumsehsbones

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Despite how it might seem, I'm all for people who live in Authoritarian countries/places to do exactly that.

Russians want to stop shit happening in their country? Rise up against Poo-tinny.

People in Belarus want to stop Lukashenko? Rise up.

North Korea - same, though I can't help but wonder what'll happen now with NK sending soldiers to Ukraine.

But Gaza is different, because it not only has the internal population, but the external issue of Israel, and the fact Hamas - the Authoritarian regime - pushes terrorism against it. I used to be a staunch supporter of Israel and it defending itself against Hamas, Hezbullah and everyone else against them. But then their stance shifted from protection to retaliation and by then I easily saw that Israel was becoming what it was - supposed to be - against.

Honestly if both places want to wipe themselves off the map, go ahead, that's what they want, have at. But don't go looking for fucking sympathy for your actions when your actions are just as fucking horrible as those who you are "against".

That said I do think of the innocents caught up in the massive dick waving of Hamas and the Israeli Government/Military Complex and how they're suffering, which is why I argue for Palestinian people - not Hamas - or Israeli civilians, depending who I'm talking to.
Ham-ass set itself up as a government. Well, that has consequences.

I would feel sorry for the innocents caught in between, but that's been true of every conflict on every scale in history. Only thing I know for sure is that any government or quasi-governmental organization that claims a bleeding heart over "innocent women and children" isn't outrageously lying, it's laughably lying.
 
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Serryah

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Ham-ass set itself up as a government. Well, that has consequences.

Normally I'd agree, but again the situation there is different than other normal countries.

The majority of the population of Gaza now was either young or not even born when Hamas was put into power and since then the conflict between Hamas and Israel has made it so that the actual civilian populace don't get a chance to rise up and change Hamas, if they wanted to, because of the retaliation of Israel. Which in turn pushes people to continue to support Hamas, because the disproportionate retaliation of Israel has wiped out families, so surviving members are of course going to want to strike back at those who did that.

Israel is part of the author of it's own attacks.

I would feel sorry for the innocents caught in between, but that's been true of every conflict on every scale in history.

When I'm not sympathetic and pissed at the unfairness of it, I realize that and wash my hands of it.


Only thing I know for sure is that any government or quasi-governmental organization that claims a bleeding heart over "innocent women and children" isn't outrageously lying, it's laughably lying.

On that I think we both agree.
 

Ron in Regina

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Ham-ass set itself up as a government. Well, that has consequences.
The majority of the population of Gaza now was either young or not even born when Hamas was put into power and since…
…Then UNRWA schools…
…then the conflict between Hamas and Israel has made it so that the actual civilian populace don't get a chance to rise up and change Hamas
Hamas doesn’t/didn’t/wouldn’t allow the population to change out Hamas.
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Gotta go. I’ll have to come back to this later.