Hamas attacks Israel

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Despite how it might seem, I'm all for people who live in Authoritarian countries/places to do exactly that.

Russians want to stop shit happening in their country? Rise up against Poo-tinny.

People in Belarus want to stop Lukashenko? Rise up.

North Korea - same, though I can't help but wonder what'll happen now with NK sending soldiers to Ukraine.

But Gaza is different, because it not only has the internal population, but the external issue of Israel, and the fact Hamas - the Authoritarian regime - pushes terrorism against it. I used to be a staunch supporter of Israel and it defending itself against Hamas, Hezbullah and everyone else against them. But then their stance shifted from protection to retaliation and by then I easily saw that Israel was becoming what it was - supposed to be - against.

Honestly if both places want to wipe themselves off the map, go ahead, that's what they want, have at. But don't go looking for fucking sympathy for your actions when your actions are just as fucking horrible as those who you are "against".

That said I do think of the innocents caught up in the massive dick waving of Hamas and the Israeli Government/Military Complex and how they're suffering, which is why I argue for Palestinian people - not Hamas - or Israeli civilians, depending who I'm talking to.
Ham-ass set itself up as a government. Well, that has consequences.

I would feel sorry for the innocents caught in between, but that's been true of every conflict on every scale in history. Only thing I know for sure is that any government or quasi-governmental organization that claims a bleeding heart over "innocent women and children" isn't outrageously lying, it's laughably lying.
 
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Ham-ass set itself up as a government. Well, that has consequences.

Normally I'd agree, but again the situation there is different than other normal countries.

The majority of the population of Gaza now was either young or not even born when Hamas was put into power and since then the conflict between Hamas and Israel has made it so that the actual civilian populace don't get a chance to rise up and change Hamas, if they wanted to, because of the retaliation of Israel. Which in turn pushes people to continue to support Hamas, because the disproportionate retaliation of Israel has wiped out families, so surviving members are of course going to want to strike back at those who did that.

Israel is part of the author of it's own attacks.

I would feel sorry for the innocents caught in between, but that's been true of every conflict on every scale in history.

When I'm not sympathetic and pissed at the unfairness of it, I realize that and wash my hands of it.


Only thing I know for sure is that any government or quasi-governmental organization that claims a bleeding heart over "innocent women and children" isn't outrageously lying, it's laughably lying.

On that I think we both agree.
 

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Ham-ass set itself up as a government. Well, that has consequences.
The majority of the population of Gaza now was either young or not even born when Hamas was put into power and since…
…Then UNRWA schools…
…then the conflict between Hamas and Israel has made it so that the actual civilian populace don't get a chance to rise up and change Hamas
Hamas doesn’t/didn’t/wouldn’t allow the population to change out Hamas.
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Gotta go. I’ll have to come back to this later.
 

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Passenger calls flight attendant ‘antisemitic’ for wearing apparent pro-Palestinian pin
Author of the article:Denette Wilford
Published Jan 06, 2025 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 2 minute read

A Jewish passenger on an American Airlines flight blasted a crew member and accused her of being antisemitic for a watermelon pin on her top.


In the ongoing war in Gaza, people have been using and wearing watermelon images to communicate solidarity with Palestinians, due to the fruit’s colours matching the Palestinian flag.

Video shows the man and flight attendant in a heated argument as he slammed her for wearing the pin and not letting him leave the plane.

“You’re supporting terrorism with your pin,” the man can be heard saying. “You support terrorism, you’re antisemitic.”

“Why are you preventing me from leaving the plane, is it because I’m Jewish?” he continued, before calling her “antisemitic” once more.

The flight attendant was joined by another crew member who accused the passenger of “touching” her.

Both women are seen putting their hands up in attempts to block their faces as the man filmed the incident.

They then told the man he was not permitted to film them, according to U.S. aviation regulations, and he was not allowed to disembark until he deleted the video.


The crew members also instructed the man to wait for police to escort him out but the passenger claimed he called the cops for assistance in the matter.

“Once officers came, they told them I didn’t break any laws and they are the ones breaking the law by holding me on the plane for stupidity and they still refused to let me go so the officers got really upset and took me off the plane,” the passenger said, according to an Instagram post.

“It was very upsetting to be treated like a criminal.”


American Airlines staff is forbidden from wearing unauthorized pins, buttons and badges that are not part of the official uniform.

According to the airline’s uniform policy, employees are only allowed to wear “company-issued anniversary or award pins,” a union pin, or a pin from a “company-sponsored” organization.

American Airlines said it was investigating the incident, which occurred last week.
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Passenger calls flight attendant ‘antisemitic’ for wearing apparent pro-Palestinian pin
Author of the article:Denette Wilford
Published Jan 06, 2025 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 2 minute read

A Jewish passenger on an American Airlines flight blasted a crew member and accused her of being antisemitic for a watermelon pin on her top.


In the ongoing war in Gaza, people have been using and wearing watermelon images to communicate solidarity with Palestinians, due to the fruit’s colours matching the Palestinian flag.

Video shows the man and flight attendant in a heated argument as he slammed her for wearing the pin and not letting him leave the plane.

“You’re supporting terrorism with your pin,” the man can be heard saying. “You support terrorism, you’re antisemitic.”

“Why are you preventing me from leaving the plane, is it because I’m Jewish?” he continued, before calling her “antisemitic” once more.

The flight attendant was joined by another crew member who accused the passenger of “touching” her.

Both women are seen putting their hands up in attempts to block their faces as the man filmed the incident.

They then told the man he was not permitted to film them, according to U.S. aviation regulations, and he was not allowed to disembark until he deleted the video.


The crew members also instructed the man to wait for police to escort him out but the passenger claimed he called the cops for assistance in the matter.

“Once officers came, they told them I didn’t break any laws and they are the ones breaking the law by holding me on the plane for stupidity and they still refused to let me go so the officers got really upset and took me off the plane,” the passenger said, according to an Instagram post.

“It was very upsetting to be treated like a criminal.”


American Airlines staff is forbidden from wearing unauthorized pins, buttons and badges that are not part of the official uniform.

According to the airline’s uniform policy, employees are only allowed to wear “company-issued anniversary or award pins,” a union pin, or a pin from a “company-sponsored” organization.

American Airlines said it was investigating the incident, which occurred last week.
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the watermelon pin is also anti nig. 🍉 ;)
 

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The body of Israeli hostage Youssef Alziadana was retrieved from a tunnel in Gaza, the IDF said. His son Hamza, also held hostage by Hamas, is also feared dead. U.S. Secretary of State Blinken said that Israel and Hamas are "very close" to a cease-fire/hostage deal. Israeli strikes killed at least five people in Gaza, including two infants and a woman, medics told AP. Three Palestinians, including two children, were killed in an Israeli drone strike in the West Bank. Israel is blocking the UN from investigating crimes of sexual violence committed by Hamas on October 7, fearing it would require granting UN access to examine charges of sexual abuse against Palestinians detainees in Israel.

Here's what you need to know 460 days into the war
What happened today​
Hamza Alziadana, 22, and Youssef Hamis Alziadana, 53.
■ HOSTAGES/CEASE-FIRE: The body of Israeli hostage Youssef Alziadana was retrieved from a tunnel in southern Gaza's Rafah, the IDF said. Youssef was killed in captivity, according to the IDF. Earlier, Defense Minister Israel Katz claimed that the IDF also recovered the body of Hamza, Youssef's son. The Alziadana family said that they were informed that both bodies were found.
  • Youssef's name appeared on a list of hostages that Hamas agreed to release during the first stage of a possible cease-fire agreement. Two other members of the Alziadana family, Aisha and Bilal, were released in a hostage deal in November after 55 days in captivity. There are currently 99 hostages held in Gaza, 36 of whom have been declared dead.

  • The Lebanese newspaper Al Akhbar reported that Hamas will give Israel intelligence on hostages, including the location of those who've been killed, in exchange for a cease-fire of up to eight weeks, citing Egyptian sources. PM Netanyahu's office denied the report, calling it a "complete lie."

  • U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that Israel and Hamas are "very close to a cease-fire and hostage agreement."
■ GAZA: The IDF said that an Air Force helicopter attacked Hamas members staying in a command center previously used as a school in the northern Gazan city of Jabalya, adding that precautions were taken before the attack to minimize the risk of harming civilians.
  • Israeli airstrikes killed at least five people in Gaza, medics told AP. One strike hit a home in the central city of Deir al-Balah, killing two men and a woman, according to the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital, adding that a 4-month-old boy was also killed in a strike on his family home in the nearby Bureij refugee camp. The Hamas-run Health Ministry said that a strike on a home in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood in Gaza City killed a 3-week-old baby.

  • The IDF said it targeted "a number of terrorists who took part in the murderous October 7, 2023, massacre" in the Khan Yunis area overnight into Wednesday, adding that "numerous measures were taken before the strike to mitigate the risk of harming civilians."

  • The Hamas-run Health Ministry said 17 Palestinians were killed in the attack, nearly all of them women or children. The director of the children's ward at the Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis said that five children were killed in the strike as they sheltered together in the same tent. Their bodies were among the eight children and five women brought to the hospital.

  • A commander in the IDF's Nahal Brigade shot and killed a Palestinian who was assisting Israeli troops in the southern Gazan city of Rafah, the Hebrew-language independent investigative journalism website "The Hottest Place in Hell" reported.

  • According to the report, the Palestinian was forced to serve as a human shield and search buildings in the Khan Yunis area, and had received the IDF's permission to be present in the building. When a commander in the brigade arrived, he identified the man as Palestinian, took out a rifle and shot him to death, not knowing the man was authorized to be present in the building.

  • The Hamas-controlled Health Ministry in Gaza said that at least 45,936 Palestinians have been killed and 109,274 wounded since the start of the war.
"Opponents of a partial deal are justifiably fearful that there will be no subsequent deals and that dozens of hostages will remain in Hamas captivity, as a kind of "insurance policy," for an unknown period of time. Yet rejecting a partial deal and waiting for a complete one certainly means that even those who are still alive might die in captivity, whether due to their medical condition or because they would be killed by their captors or accidentally in an IDF bombing. At least, a partial deal would save some of the living hostages" – Zvi Bar'el
 

petros

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The demands of life and the dumpster fire in Ottawa. I have preoccupied my attention as of late, and I’ve really fallen behind on this topic. The time permits I’ll try and catch up but just stumbled across this short.😳
And here we have an Israel run by white European Seculars who call themselves Jews.

Sephardic Jews who've been there since the end of Israel and Judea in 70AD arent white.
 

petros

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What’s the highest point of observation between Israel and Syria with respect to Syria being incomplete turmoil?
Syria and the Conoco gas and oilfield is under control now that Putin and Wagner are gone. US and Turkey along with Israel will be piping natural gas to Europe in no time. If Israel wants to get its gas to market in Europe it will need to secure a corridor into Syria. Lebanon and Gaza too if deals are upheld as they were under the Islamic Friendship Pipeline agreement before Russia backed Assad killing the line.

Mt Hermon has no hostages but it does take the Jordan river watershed hostage by Israel.

Euphrates is next. Its been the goal for over 125 years.
 

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Syria and the Conoco gas and oilfield is under control now that Putin and Wagner are gone. US and Turkey along with Israel will be piping natural gas to Europe in no time. If Israel wants to get its gas to market in Europe it will need to secure a corridor into Syria. Lebanon and Gaza too if deals are upheld as they were under the Islamic Friendship Pipeline agreement before Russia backed Assad killing the line.

Mt Hermon has no hostages but it does take the Jordan river watershed hostage by Israel.

Euphrates is next. Its been the goal for over 125 years.
Has anybody told Syria that? Or the different factions & militias there? I bet they would be curious to know this, & maybe even somewhat relieved!!!
 

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Has anybody told Syria that? Or the different factions & militias there? I bet they would be curious to know this, & maybe even somewhat relieved!!!
They dont know theyre being occupied by Israel? Lebanese and Syrian Semites are morons?

Your curiousity seems to be limited.

How many Holocaustages are on Mt Hermon?

Do "secular" Jews ski?

Jewski? Atheist Polocks?
 
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Ron in Regina

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They dont know theyre being occupied by Israel? Lebanese and Syrian Semites are morons?

Your curiousity seems to be limited.

How many Holocaustages are on Mt Hermon?

Do "secular" Jews ski?

Jewski? Atheist Polocks?
Currently distracted by Canadian politics. Waiting to see what happens in the Middle East goat rodeo after January 20th.
 

petros

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Has anybody told Syria that? Or the different factions & militias there? I bet they would be curious to know this, & maybe even somewhat relieved!!!
Yes of course Syria knows. Its only been 15 years since Putin and Assad stopped the pipeline.
Are Assad and Putin still in Syria? Its also well know who "the proxies" funding the fight against Putin and Assad were/are. Any guesses? Ir just stick to known facts such as Israel buying oil from ISIS.