Hamas attacks Israel

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Give up control of the "the strip"?

WTF are are they smoking in TLV? Foreskins?
Maybe they’re smoking a serious offer towards an actual cease-fire, one that might actually work after 10 or 11 months of this ongoing rodeo.

Hamas out, Hostages from Israel released released, some of the convicts from Israel put back into Gaza, a different government in place by the Palestinians for the Palestinians….Maybe this is the way assuming Hamas actually gives a shit about the population population of Gaza?

It could be a workable starting point towards an actual agreement between the nation of Israel & the potential nation of Palestine with actual borders and everything….or….Hamas/Islamic Jihad & Friends can turn up their noses at this, Hamas gets decimated further, & a mixed bag of combatants/civilian casualties doubles, or triples, etc…to what end? Probably not an agreement with Israel with respect to a two state solution, a cease-fire, and agreement on border placement, eventual peace, etc…
 
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Pro-Palestinian activists charged with harassment while protesting Marc Miller
Author of the article:Canadian Press
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Morgan Lowrie
Published Sep 10, 2024 • 2 minute read

MONTREAL — The lawyer representing pro-Palestinian activists who are accused of criminally harassing federal Immigration Minister Marc Miller says the charges are an attempt to “criminalize free speech.”


Barbara Bedont says her three clients were protesting outside a Liberal byelection campaign office in Montreal’s Verdun borough last week when they saw Miller and two of his employees in a car and confronted them, yelling messages such as “shame on you!”

Mohanned Mansour, Samar Elkahlout and Wendy Ing were charged with criminal harassment and mischief for allegedly damaging the car Miller was in, and were given conditions Tuesday that include a requirement to stay at least 50 metres away from the minister and the two employees.

Bedont denies that her clients damaged the car or posed any threat to Miller or the others. She said the case, instead, is part of a growing trend by politicians and police of trying to suppress free speech.


“There have been cases in the past in which the judges have clearly said that freedom of speech, it’s not just for popular, happy, speech. It’s for speech that could be offensive, that could be insulting, and politicians in particular have to tolerate that,” she said.

“And instead, what’s happening is that politicians and police officers, they’re ignoring this and they’re bringing more and more cases against protesters, particularly pro-Palestinian protesters.”

Miller’s office declined to comment because the matter is before the courts.

Elkahlout — who is also known as Samar Alkhdour — had been trying to bring her daughter to Canada earlier this year, but the 13-year-old died in the Gaza Strip before permission was granted. She has previously told reporters that her daughter suffered from serious medical conditions and died of malnutrition.


Since then she has held regular sit-ins outside Miller’s Montreal riding office in protest of the Canadian government’s policies on Palestinian refugees.

Bedont said the conditions imposed Tuesday are a “compromise” that put limits on the accused while still allowing them to continue their protests, including outside the door of Miller’s office when he and the two employees aren’t there.

She said the conditions initially proposed by the Crown included staying away from Miller’s office and not denouncing him on social media, but that she challenged those on the grounds that they violate her clients’ rights protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

“They have the right to freedom of expression, freedom of assembly,” she said. “And so that’s why we challenge these conditions because the conditions basically would have infringed those rights.”


The case comes as some politicians have called for harsher penalties for those who harass MPs. In July, former public safety minister Marco Mendicino called for the creation of “protective zones” around political constituency offices to shield members of Parliament and their staff from a rising tide of threatening behaviour.

Bedont said she supports the objective of protecting politicians and civil servants from violence. “But if the objective is to just shut down criticism and free speech, then I doubt that any law would withstand a Charter challenge,” she said.

She said the case against her clients is scheduled to return to court in November, but she hopes prosecutors will decide to drop the charges before then.
 

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Maybe they’re smoking a serious offer towards an actual cease-fire, one that might actually work after 10 or 11 months of this ongoing rodeo.

Hamas out, Hostages from Israel released released, some of the convicts from Israel put back into Gaza, a different government in place by the Palestinians for the Palestinians….Maybe this is the way assuming Hamas actually gives a shit about the population population of Gaza?

It could be a workable starting point towards an actual agreement between the nation of Israel & the potential nation of Palestine with actual borders and everything….or….Hamas/Islamic Jihad & Friends can turn up their noses at this, Hamas gets decimated further, & a mixed bag of combatants/civilian casualties doubles, or triples, etc…to what end? Probably not an agreement with Israel with respect to a two state solution, a cease-fire, and agreement on border placement, eventual peace, etc…
None of your pippedream will ever happen with Bibi and Likud running the show. Palestine needs to negotiate with Jews not Zionists.
 

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None of your pippedream will ever happen with Bibi and Likud running the show. Palestine needs to negotiate with Jews not Zionists.
What If (I know it might sound crazy) the Jews & Zionists overlap in the same person or People?

Muslims or Arabs that are Nationalists, they don’t have to be three different people like the holy Trinity (which may or may not be three different entities), but it could be the same person that’s all three. What then?
 

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What If (I know it might sound crazy) the Jews & Zionists overlap in the same person or People?

Muslims or Arabs that are Nationalists, they don’t have to be three different people like the holy Trinity (which may or may not be three different entities), but it could be the same person that’s all three. What then?
Just for shits and giggles read Revelation 2:9

It goes something like this,

I know your suffering and your poverty (but you are rich), and how you are blasphemed and slandered by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan [they are Jews only by blood, and do not believe and truly honor the God whom they claim to worship].
 

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PM Netanyahu reportedly asked Israel's attorney general to open a criminal probe against himself and Defense Minister Gallant to nullify the ICC chief prosecutor's request to issue arrest warrants against them. UNRWA said six staffers were killed in Gaza, two of which the IDF claimed were Hamas members. A Washington Post probe found that an American-Turkish activist killed by the IDF during a West Bank protest was shot "more than a half-hour after the height of confrontations." The U.S. is reportedly withdrawing the USS Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier from the Middle East. The commander of the Israeli army's elite intelligence Unit 8200 announced his resignation due to what he referred to as his "personal responsibility" for the failure of his unit on October 7.

Here's what you need to know 342 days into the war
 

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You think Bibi will survive that long?
Until after this war is over, or this round of it anyway that started Oct 7th. Once it’s over so is he I’m assuming.

As long as Hamas/Islamic Jihad/Etc…are holding hostages from October 7th, even though only 40-50/100 are alive at this point, and those ringleaders that initiated it are still breathing, & Hamas is still a threat in their Oct 7th-2.0 promises…this won’t end and Bibi will remain in power.

(Offering Sinwar an out is the closest to an actual light at the end of the tunnel I’ve heard to be honest, ‘cuz nothing else has produced any viable results)

If that deal isn’t accepted, He’ll be hunted down eventually whether it’s in Gaza or elsewhere on the globe.
 

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Until after this war is over, or this round of it anyway that started Oct 7th. Once it’s over so is he I’m assuming.

As long as Hamas/Islamic Jihad/Etc…are holding hostages from October 7th, even though only 40-50/100 are alive at this point, and those ringleaders that initiated it are still breathing, & Hamas is still a threat in their Oct 7th-2.0 promises…this won’t end and Bibi will remain in power.

(Offering Sinwar an out is the closest to an actual light at the end of the tunnel I’ve heard to be honest, ‘cuz nothing else has produced any viable results)

If that deal isn’t accepted, He’ll be hunted down eventually whether it’s in Gaza or elsewhere on the globe.
Netanyahu doesn't give a shit about holocostages.

When this over Israel is going to go broke moving 550,000 out of West Bank, housing them, and paying reparations.

It aint gonna be pretty.
 

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Netanyahu doesn't give a shit about holocostages.

When this over Israel is going to go broke moving 550,000 out of West Bank, housing them, and paying reparations.

It aint gonna be pretty.
Maybe, & maybe not. First the war has to end though, or at least this latest round of it. What will it really take for that to happen?

I thought it was more like 700,000 & not 550,000?
 

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Maybe, & maybe not. First the war has to end though, or at least this latest round of it. What will it really take for that to happen?

I thought it was more like 700,000 & not 550,000?
The war ending is all in the hands of the JKK. If support starts backing off then what?

700K? Even worse.
 

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“Israel appreciates the support of the overwhelming majority of Canadians in our just war against Hamas – an Iranian-backed genocidal terrorist organization in Gaza,” he said using the official X account of the Office of the Prime Minister of Israel.
“Minister Joly’s remarks regarding blocking ammunition sales to Israel are harmful and misguided at a time of war, and are in contradiction with Canada’s position that it has the right and duty to defend itself, pointing out that currently Israel is attacked on seven fronts, all supported, trained and equipped by Iran,” spokesperson Yifah Mivtach Greenvald said in a statement.
The Israel embassy in Canada noted the Canadian government talks of supporting Israel’s right to defend itself but then conversely won’t supply it the means to do so. The Canadian federal government considers Hamas a terrorist group.
“Minister Joly’s remarks regarding blocking ammunition sales to Israel are harmful and misguided at a time of war, and are in contradiction with Canada’s position that it has the right and duty to defend itself, pointing out that currently Israel is attacked on seven fronts, all supported, trained and equipped by Iran,” spokesperson Yifah Mivtach Greenvald said in a statement.
“It is all the more disappointing as some of the permits suspended are of items that are purely for defence purposes.”
Figures released by the Department of Global Affairs this year showed that exports of military goods to Israel from Canada rose to $30-million in 2023. That was up from $21.3-million in 2022.
(Canada’s Ambassador to the UN at 5:00?)
{One week out from a byelection in a previously safe Liberal seat in Montreal where New Democrats (and their pamphlets) are pushing Canada's response to the ongoing violence in Gaza as a ballot question, Joly proactively used her scrum at the governing caucus's retreat in Nanaimo, B.C. to rebut claims the Trudeau government isn't doing enough. Joly has been campaigning in Lasalle–Emard–Verdun, a Montreal riding that — even though it's not dominated by Muslim or Jewish voters — now finds itself a test case for the fine line Liberals are struggling to walk on Gaza.}
Russia’s military casualties, the officials said, are approaching 300,000. The number includes as many as 120,000 deaths and 170,000 to 180,000 injured troops. The Russian numbers dwarf the Ukrainian figures, which the officials put at close to 70,000 killed and 100,000 to 120,000 wounded. This doesn’t include the civilian casualties on either side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AMhhisodA
 

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“Israel appreciates the support of the overwhelming majority of Canadians in our just war against Hamas – an Iranian-backed genocidal terrorist organization in Gaza,” he said using the official X account of the Office of the Prime Minister of Israel.
“Minister Joly’s remarks regarding blocking ammunition sales to Israel are harmful and misguided at a time of war, and are in contradiction with Canada’s position that it has the right and duty to defend itself, pointing out that currently Israel is attacked on seven fronts, all supported, trained and equipped by Iran,” spokesperson Yifah Mivtach Greenvald said in a statement.
The Israel embassy in Canada noted the Canadian government talks of supporting Israel’s right to defend itself but then conversely won’t supply it the means to do so. The Canadian federal government considers Hamas a terrorist group.
“Minister Joly’s remarks regarding blocking ammunition sales to Israel are harmful and misguided at a time of war, and are in contradiction with Canada’s position that it has the right and duty to defend itself, pointing out that currently Israel is attacked on seven fronts, all supported, trained and equipped by Iran,” spokesperson Yifah Mivtach Greenvald said in a statement.
“It is all the more disappointing as some of the permits suspended are of items that are purely for defence purposes.”
Figures released by the Department of Global Affairs this year showed that exports of military goods to Israel from Canada rose to $30-million in 2023. That was up from $21.3-million in 2022.
(Canada’s Ambassador to the UN at 5:00?)
{One week out from a byelection in a previously safe Liberal seat in Montreal where New Democrats (and their pamphlets) are pushing Canada's response to the ongoing violence in Gaza as a ballot question, Joly proactively used her scrum at the governing caucus's retreat in Nanaimo, B.C. to rebut claims the Trudeau government isn't doing enough. Joly has been campaigning in Lasalle–Emard–Verdun, a Montreal riding that — even though it's not dominated by Muslim or Jewish voters — now finds itself a test case for the fine line Liberals are struggling to walk on Gaza.}
Russia’s military casualties, the officials said, are approaching 300,000. The number includes as many as 120,000 deaths and 170,000 to 180,000 injured troops. The Russian numbers dwarf the Ukrainian figures, which the officials put at close to 70,000 killed and 100,000 to 120,000 wounded. This doesn’t include the civilian casualties on either side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AMhhisodA
Does the "right to defend itself" include using Canadian arms for offensive operations in West Bank or excursions into Syria and Lebanon?

How many holocaustages are in Damascus?
 

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Does the "right to defend itself" include using Canadian arms for offensive operations in West Bank or excursions into Syria and Lebanon?
Does the "right to defend itself" include long range Missile attacks into Russian territory? On how many fronts is Israel having to defend themselves on at this point? Has Hezbollah been lobbing missiles and rockets into Israel since October 8th 2023 from the Vatican or London while being headquartered in Berlin?
How many holocaustages are in Damascus?
Well, if any of them are in Damascus, they got there via tunnels to Egypt & not Lebanon.
 

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Does the "right to defend itself" include long range Missile attacks into Russian territory? On how many fronts is Israel having to defend themselves on at this point? Has Hezbollah been lobbing missiles and rockets into Israel since October 8th 2023 from the Vatican or London while being headquartered in Berlin?

Well, if any of them are in Damascus, they got there via tunnels to Egypt & not Lebanon.
Why do these people lob stuff at Israel? Shits and giggles?
 

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Why do these people lob stuff at Israel? Shits and giggles?
Maybe it’s a Muslim thing? Israel is only 17% Muslim instead of 90-100% Muslim, so that might be a factor, but you could always ask Iran who’s behind almost (if not all) the active players in the “lob stuff at Israel” circlejerk plus other militant instabilities throughout the region?
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What’s the biggest non-Muslim target in the Middle East, so that once it’s eliminated the rest can target each other?

If Israel was never created, how much larger would Jordan, Egypt, Syria, & maybe even Lebanon be with still no Palestinian Nation?