H1N1 - Think it will never really touch you?

[lindyloo646]

To tell you that there is active H1N1 in the city/community is not a breach of privacy. To tell you that the people with the masks on indeed have H1N1 is most certainly a breach ( and might I add illegal). To say that you have a cold or have been in contact with someone who has the cold or flu does NOT mean H1N1.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that, like Saskatchewan,
other provinces are going to have very similar Legislation in place like
the following: Health Information Protection Act - Health -

 

[ironsides]

Right now, they are pretty much comparing basing initial symptoms to what H1N1 causes. If I'm not mistaken it takes about 1 week to confirm if you have it or not. Of course if you do have it, it is to late for the flu shot.

The H1N1 flu is all over the place down here in FL, and with a few exceptions seems fairly mild.

 

[YukonJack]

It is not quite the same as with HIV/AIDS, but if you keep your nose clean (no pun intended), you will be OK.

 

[missile]

I've never had a flu shot, and at my age [65], don't intend to get one this year either.

 

[Outta here]

geeze the amount of misinformation surrounding this flu and the vaccine is staggering. I honestly don't know how one decides the veracity of all the conflicting info that's being thrown at us. I received the following 2 emails in the last couple days - unless this is one's field of expertise, I don't know how any of us is supposed to know with certainty how to respond to all this.

No one should take the swine flu vaccine—it is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease). This virus H1N1 kills by causing a “cytokine storm”, which means that it cause the body’s immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.

One’s best protection is vitamin D3. One should take 5000 IU a day now and when the disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day. Vitamin D3 modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils (the best is Carlson’s Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil) also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be sufficient. For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of various kins also help—this includes, quercetin, curcumin, grapeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good multivitamin/mineral such as Extend Core (www.vrp.com) is also essential.

Feel free to spread this around. People need to know how to protect themselves.

Russell
RUSSELL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D.

The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).

3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*


5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

 

[VanIsle]

Zan - If you google your Dr. Blaylock you will see he appears to have written many articles on this and other topics. One has to wonder why only his opinion seems to matter so much. He seems to be against almost anything including organic food/fluoride treatements in the water etc. etc. Our paper did state that for the first time ever in Canada, an adjuvant is included in the vaccine for H1N1. Quite a number of people have already received this vaccine. Don't you think if all he has to say is so true, the families it happened to would be speaking out loud and clear and telling people not to allow the use of this vaccine?
I received your second email as well. It makes good sense but not everyone is going to follow it and not everyone can. One of the most natural things for anyone of us to do is touch our face and particularly around the mouth area. I heard that this virus likes to attach itself to tea in particular. Then I read that drinking lots of fluids period helps clear your mouth and throat moving the "virus" into the stomach where it cannot survive.
That said - most of us work in very public areas. If I don't get the shot and my family doesn't get the shot we are at high risk. I have a grandchild with weak lungs and a daughter-in-law with asthma. I'm not really willing to take the chance that I could be the one to pass on H1N1 to either of them. There are risks in all we do. You could pass up on the shot and die or take the shot and have side effects or you could pass up on the shot and escape the flu anyway or take the shot and have no side effects. You have to do what works best for you and your family.

 

[Outta here]

I guess that was my point VI - no matter how much info they throw at us, it's still pretty much a crap shoot.

 

[Risus]

I've never had a flu shot, and at my age [65], don't intend to get one this year either.

I was going to get a shot 2 years ago, until they gave me a waver form to sign. I told them to forget it. I'm with you, I won't start this year.

 

[VanIsle]

I guess that was my point VI - no matter how much info they throw at us, it's still pretty much a crap shoot.

It really is. I am really torn as to what to do. One moment I am 100% sure that I am getting the shot. Then the next moment I hear or read something that says "don't get the shot". As I said before, I don't want to be responsible for bringing the flu to any of my family and I work in such a public place and I touch everything the customers that come to my till touch. Business has been kind of slow lately and of course everyone has been wondering why. I now realize it's probably twofold. People are home because they are very ill OR they are staying away from as many public places as they can. How long do we live our lives like this and what strain of bird flu/swine flu/etc. might we encounter next year?

 

[ironsides]

US swine flu deaths surpass 1,000

"Swine flu is more widespread now than it's ever been, and has resulted in more than 1,000 U.S. deaths so far. Flu illnesses are as widespread now as they are at the winter peak of normal flu seasons, said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091023/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu

Nothing to discuss, please get your shots.

 

[#juan]

I'm getting the ordinary flu shot tomorrow and the swine flu shot next Wednesday. There is some risk with both but according to my doctor, and a neighbor who is a doctor, you are better off if you get the shots than if you don't.

 

[VanIsle]

I'm getting the ordinary flu shot tomorrow and the swine flu shot next Wednesday. There is some risk with both but according to my doctor, and a neighbor who is a doctor, you are better off if you get the shots than if you don't.

Juan they say you should get them in the other order. I'm sure you saw in the news that they stopped giving the regular flu shot in BC because they found that people that had the regular one got H1N1 much faster.
I have today's Province paper right beside me. They state: BC is offering to administer H1N1 AND seasonal vaccine AT THE SAME TIME. It also states that people who get the seasonal shot first, may be twice as likely to contract the H1N1.
It also explains ADJUVANTED: Adjuvant is a compound that boosts the effectiveness of the vaccine and allows the administration of smaller doses. It's the first licenced flu vaccine containing adjuvant in Canada.
It also states that people with severe egg allergies should not get the vaccine. Children aged 6 months to 10 years need two half doses 21 days apart.

 

[petros]

states that people who get the seasonal shot first, may be twice as likely to contract the H1N1.

Twice as likely get H1N1 after getting the H1N1 shot or by normal means?

Without clarity that can means the shots are a source of infection.

 

[petros]

Adjuvanted means it contains Thimerosal (MERCURY).

 

[Cliffy]

Yikes! The hysteria is reaching a fever pitch. Lambs to the slaughter. You have a better chance of getting run over by a car than dying from a flu.

 

[TenPenny]

Adjuvanted means it contains Thimerosal (MERCURY).

That's not what adjuvanted means, but the vaccine does contain Thimerosal as a preservative. Which results in you getting the same amount of mercury as 1/10th of a can of tuna fish. Better run off and panic now.

 

[JLM]

Yikes! The hysteria is reaching a fever pitch. Lambs to the slaughter. You have a better chance of getting run over by a car than dying from a flu.

Well, one thing for sure Cliff, people whose worst problem is worrying about Swine flu are indeed very very lucky people.

 

[JLM]

I'm getting the ordinary flu shot tomorrow and the swine flu shot next Wednesday. There is some risk with both but according to my doctor, and a neighbor who is a doctor, you are better off if you get the shots than if you don't.

I know for a fact that is the case with flu shots in general, I've been getting them for about 20 years and have never had the flu in all that time, previous to that when I did get it I was wiped out for a week.

 

[ironsides]

Yikes! The hysteria is reaching a fever pitch. Lambs to the slaughter. You have a better chance of getting run over by a car than dying from a flu.

Never mind they dying from the flu, that is a release. The flu itself can give you the most horrible 5-10 days of your life. Shots may protect you from the "pain" as described by Westley.