Gun Violence Is In Democratic Strongholds

gopher

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Red states typically get more $$$ from the Feds than do Blue states. Let's change the system: give more to the blue states so they can hire more police then let's see how the stats change.
 

EagleSmack

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Red states typically get more $$$ from the Feds than do Blue states. Let's change the system: give more to the blue states so they can hire more police then let's see how the stats change.

Let's see... like more money to cities like Atlanta, Houston, Miami, New Orleans.

Let's see the government cut off funding to those places. I'm all for it.
 

Highball

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If they do take the weapons the major cities will all essentially be disarmed. It may even be interpreted by some as being racist in nature. Think about that for a moment.
 

EagleSmack

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If they do take the weapons the major cities will all essentially be disarmed. It may even be interpreted by some as being racist in nature. Think about that for a moment.

Oh they aren't going after the criminals and their guns in the big cities. The libbies don't want to harm their base.
 

damngrumpy

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You can go to the inner city Democrat strongholds and count the murders and shootings.
You can use a per ca-pita chart to demonstrate there is as much murder in Republican areas.
You can call each other out and blame each other till the cows come home.
You can claim all the guns should be taken away
You can claim the guns will be out there laws or no laws and likely everyone will be right.

The problem is gun violence is a problem for the society at large, not because guns are bad
but because mental health issues are not being dealt with in a meaningful way. Think about
it school shootings are really recent activities. Sure there has always been gun murders,
It is also true that gun murders have taken place in the worlds most peaceful places including
where guns are illegal.
Mental health is the single biggest problem, and that is also part of the social ills that afflict a
modern society. The world is changing too fast for some, there are those who feel estranged
from society and substance abuse issues, joblessness, and the list goes on.
But hey, we have cheap taxes and people have a right to sleep under bridges.
Until we as a people find solutions to the problem of mental illness people will act out their
fantasies and frustrations. and they will do so with guns that are legal or illegal. Again we
in North America are going to look out past the real issues and deal with the immediate symptoms
Yes automatic weapons, and large clip ammo packaging should be limited. Background checks
for mental issue gun permit applicants should be set up. That could best be done by gun clubs
on a piecework for payment basis and those computers linked. Governments don't need total
control of the agenda. There are all kinds of economical ways to check for criminals and those
with mental illness. The real problem of mental illness should be funded and a program to help
them would be far better in the long run. A crazy person can kill people in a thousand different
ways besides a gun. Do we want to feel better or do we want a safer society?
 

DaSleeper

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Eagle.....give him a break.....for someone who is on the left on most issues....admitting that violence , including gun violence is a society problem not a gun problem is something pretty monumental....
I'll accept his statement as a whole, even if I would disagree on some specific wording that maybe I am reading the wrong way:smile:
 

EagleSmack

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Eagle.....give him a break.....for someone who is on the left on most issues....admitting that violence , including gun violence is a society problem not a gun problem is something pretty monumental....
I'll accept his statement as a whole, even if I would disagree on some specific wording that maybe I am reading the wrong way:smile:

I do not see it as a whole problem of society. The facts are there. The areas with the most violent crime, most squalor, worst schools, most corruption, etc. are controlled by the Democrats and have been for many years.
 

damngrumpy

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The one thing about the political right they enter into hysteria when they are no longer
the majority. Doesn't matter the inner city and urban areas are becoming more liberal
and they hold the concentration of voters, middle and lower classes and they are now
a voting block. Youth and causes are right behind, and there are not enough rural
folks and conservative Christians as it were to outnumber them. Obama is now going
to reach out to the illegals and help them become citizens that will add several million
new votes. We are living in interesting times
 

JLM

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The one thing about the political right they enter into hysteria when they are no longer
the majority. Doesn't matter the inner city and urban areas are becoming more liberal
and they hold the concentration of voters, middle and lower classes and they are now
a voting block. Youth and causes are right behind, and there are not enough rural
folks and conservative Christians as it were to outnumber them. Obama is now going
to reach out to the illegals and help them become citizens that will add several million
new votes. We are living in interesting times

Yep, if you find it interesting to watch just exactly how the world is going to proceed down the slope to its demise!-:)
 

petros

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I do not see it as a whole problem of society. The facts are there. The areas with the most violent crime, most squalor, worst schools, most corruption, etc. are controlled by the Democrats and have been for many years.

Market researcher for parties sell falsehoods of the end of the most violent crime, most squalor, worst schools, most corruption, etc to that market demographic.

What would be the point of selling Republican tax cuts to the poor?

Each demographic is targeted through market reasearch of the demographic with the sole purpose of getting some door to door salesman getting an inside job with an office for four years.

If a broom weren't actually better than a Swiffer, you'd see ads saying brooms are better than Swiffer.

Have you ever seen an ad for a broom?

When parties become like brooms, I'll buy into one.
 

Cliffy

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My all time favourite candidate to run in a US election was in '68 when the Yippies ran a pig. Sure woulda been better than Tricky D I C K Y