The fact he was allegedly passing counterfeit is beside the point. He should have been taken into custody using the minimal force necessary to complete the task and THEN get on with trying to confirm his guilt.
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The fact he was allegedly passing counterfeit is beside the point. He should have been taken into custody using the minimal force necessary to complete the task and THEN get on with trying to confirm his guilt.
No.
Good Lord, the guy was already handcuffed. Due to the very real danger of positional asphyxiation, leaving him laying on his belly is unacceptable, much less kneeling on his neck. NINE MINUTES! You NEVER kneel on their back, much less on their neck. Accepted practice is kneel on their shoulder. Once handcuffed, you immediately sit them up, and check to ensure they are not in distress.
Yes, I've had this training.
Fortunately, the ME has stated that "underlying medical conditions" contributed to his death.
So that's probably reasonable doubt and it's time to start calling "Free Bird!"
And of course, being not guilty and all, Chauvin will have to be reinstated, and then medically retired because of the PTSD he will have undoubtedly suffered from this "tragic event."
Think I'm kidding? Google "Daniel Shavers killed." Every bit of it's true, right down to the cop being reinstated and medically retired. At age 26.
Oh dear POOR Taxme! He is SO LOST AND CONFUSED!
He even suspects that I might be a Socialist or - gasp - a ZIONIST!
As for "spitting it all out" - you are the doofus who complains about my posts!
Not only have I been "spitting it out" - I have been doing so all over YOUR CRAP!
Here is yet another article illustrating yet again that LIE-berals are deliberately ignoring mentally ill people because LIE-berals do not feel they can buy votes from useless crazy people! With some comments of my own in brackets):
'Left to fend for himself': Man killed by police had no access to mental health care, judge finds
By Meghan Grant. From CBC News. Published May 6, 2020
When David McQueen was fatally shot by police in 2016 after opening fire on his own neighbourhood, his life had spiralled into a "horrendously difficult and overwhelming" mental and physical health crisis, according to a Calgary judge whose fatality inquiry report was released Tuesday.
The inquiry took place in December 2018 and June 2019 before provincial court Judge Sharon Van de Veen. The purpose of the hearing is to identify changes which could be made in order to help prevent similar deaths in the future.
In the months leading to McQueen's suspected goal of "suicide by cop," Van de Veen heard the 53-year-old had lost his vital home health care, his beloved dog Bear died, and he had become paranoid.
(The guy is paranoid and thinks people are “out to get him”? Apparently he is not so crazy that he does not understand LIE-beral political policies! We have only to think of another news report where a dying man was ordered OUT of a hospital - to be sent back to home care SO BAD that he suffered from food poisoning and had his home accidentally SET ON FIRE by a drowsy nurse who left the electric stove running while she napped! Also the guy fell heavily to the floor when the lone nurse slipped up while transferring him from bed to wheel chair!)
(The LIE-beral run Ontari-owe hospital gave the guy a choice - either GO HOME or ACCEPT “VOLUNTARY EUTHANASIA” at the hospital - and they flatly REFUSED to let him spend his last couple of months of life in the relative safety of the hospital! Naturally LIE-beral privacy laws and news media shyness about condemning LIE-berals denies us the right to know how this mess was resolved!)
McQueen was in such a state of despair he had protested Alberta Health's lack of home care support by sitting in his own feces for 31 days, leading to a month-long hospitalization for infected wounds in 2015.
(The guy sh+t himself daily for a MONTH and nobody asks why? Oh well, here in Ontari-owe a suicidal woman was banned from calling the Suicide hot line because she was apparently not crazy enough to bother with! Later she went to a hospital seeking help and got thrown out by security in an altercation so sever she ENDED UP BACK IN HOSPITAL - with a broken arm!)
(Compare that to Richard Kashkar who was crazy enough to voluntarily commit himself - but got bored and wandered away with nobody noticing and he stole a snowplow and killed a cop with it! Yet LIE-berals INSIST that our mental health system is doing just fine!)
It was the first of two times that year he had staged such a protest.
At the time of his death, McQueen was all alone after two home care programs had terminated services.
"It appears that Mr. McQueen was left to fend for himself the last week of his life, which he would have been unable to do," wrote Van de Veen.
McQueen, a quadriplegic since a diving accident in 1994, had many health problems, including that his hands had become "clawlike."
Although Van de Veen acknowledged McQueen could be belligerent and difficult with health care workers, she noted he was "clearly a person in anguish" and said his state of mental and physical health caused him "significant suffering."
Isabelle Templeton was David McQueen's longtime caregiver. She says he was frustrated with the government and the healthcare system. The last year of McQueen's life was full of hardships. He was hospitalized four times.
In May 2015 McQueen was taken to hospital with second-degree burns after he used a blow dryer as a heater. His longtime caregiver Isabelle Templeton testified McQueen was often very cold.
Another source of distress for McQueen was his broken wheelchair. Parts were missing and it would sometimes place him in a lying position.
He couldn't get it fixed because he owed the vendor agency money, though the chair was "crucial" to McQueen's well-being.
"His wheelchair was the only thing keeping him from being bedridden twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week," wrote Van de Veen. "It cannot be underestimated how important this mobility aid was for him."
Beloved dog dies
In January 2016, (the beloved dog) Bear had died of cancer after McQueen spent all his money on treatments. In fact, he was so broke, Templeton bought supplies out of her own pocket.
McQueen suffered from numerous wounds that required regular, specialized care and dressings. Between McQueen's credit cards and his AISH payments, he didn't have enough money to cover groceries and supplies.
The compassionate and loyal woman also answered his calls for help at night, even though he had lost his funding to pay her salary.
Templeton told the judge that McQueen had been "very depressed" over his deteriorating condition.
McQueen was part of Alberta Health Services' Self-Managed Home Care Program which allowed him to be cared for in his own home.
But the program does not include mental health services and there is no evidence McQueen received any treatment in the last years of his life.
In August of 2015, McQueen was terminated from the program when he failed to provide audits for the funding he'd received. Home Care had tried to help McQueen but he didn't provide the required supporting documentation and he cancelled appointments.
An outside agency was contracted to provide care to McQueen but his relationship with its workers deteriorated to the point of termination.
The program gave McQueen one last chance. He had until Jan. 15, 2016 to supply the documents and would again receive funding to hire his own caregiver.
McQueen wanted Templeton, whom he'd known for 16 years, to continue as his caregiver. She was the only person he trusted.
The deadline passed and McQueen did not hand over the documents. The judge said his failure to cooperate was likely because of his deteriorating mental health.
Once again, the program terminated its relationship with McQueen. With no funds to hire a caregiver, the impact, wrote Van de Veen, would have been "profound."
"This would render him virtually unable to dress, bathe, tend to his wounds, tend to personal hygiene or prepare food for himself. Staying in his home could not have been a long-term viable option for Mr. McQueen."
"[McQueen's] tragic reaction to his crisis and emotional disturbances led to his death at police hands," said Van de Veen.
David McQueen opened fire on Jan. 24, 2016 into his Huntington Hills neighbourhood from inside his home. One of the shots hit this bus, narrowly missing the bus driver.
The inquiry heard from 16 witnesses; police, health care workers and Templeton.
Around 4:30 p.m., on Jan. 24, 2016, McQueen began shooting into his Huntington Hills neighbourhood from inside his home.
First he hit a bus, shattering the window and causing glass to spray into driver Sean McNabb's face.
McNabb called police while McQueen continued to shoot out the front and back of his house. In 30 minutes, he fired 30 to 40 shots including several that struck an armoured police vehicle.
When Templeton called McQueen during the incident, he told her his house was surrounded by police.
"I will not go back to hospital. They did not help me," he told her.
McQueen told Templeton not to come over. He then said goodbye and hung up the phone.
Ninety minutes after McQueen opened fire, he was shot in the head by a CPS sniper after tear gas forced him out of his home.
An Alberta Serious Incident Response Team investigation found CPS officers' use of force justified.
In an effort to prevent similar deaths in the future, Van de Veen identified four recommendations in her final report:
Alberta Health Services carry out an independent study to examine the glaring gaps in the mental health system … which contribute to police commonly being first responders to people in crisis.
Expansion of the recent collaborative partnerships attempting to bridge the gap between mental health services and police services.
Alberta Health Services facilitate access to mental health professionals in cases involving vulnerable patients like McQueen.
A liaison be established between Home Care and the Vulnerable Persons Registry to ensure updated contact information of vulnerable people.
The police did not have correct telephone numbers when they responded on Jan. 24, 2016. Despite their intention to communicate with McQueen, there was no opportunity for police to de-escalate the situation.
(LIE-berals have the most amazing belief in the ability of cops to somehow “de-escalate” any situation with a crazed gunman who wants to lash out and DIE!)
How about kneeling on him so he cannot turn around and bite you on the leg?
And DO RECALL the case here in Toronto 20 years back when some drugged up transexual prostitute objected to being
arrested for committing a sexual act in public and he BIT the arresting officer - and triumphantly told the BLEEDING COP
that "NOW YOU HAVE AIDS JUST LIKE ME"!
And of course LIE-beral privacy laws ALLOW the goof to HIDE his medical status so the cop had to be off work for six months
and take a huge course of assorted drugs and stay away from his wife and kids etc while he waited to see IF HE MIGHT
develop Aids!
An d ALL OF THAT CRAP AND WORRY could have been averted by testing the transvestite!
The cop would have had an answer to his worries in about 24 hours - but LIE-berals SPIT ON COPS!
Or- How about kneeling on the suspect so he wont KICK OUT AT YOU?
We had a case here in Toronto where a drugged up goof caused trouble at a homeless shelter and of course the cops were called
and they wrestled him into handcuffs RIGHT AFTER he punched a not so careful female officer in the face!
And after they got him in handcuffs - they put him in the back seat of a cruiser and as soon as cops backs were turned
he proceeded to start kicking out windows!
So the cops hauled him BACK OUT OF THE CRUISER and dumped him on the ground while a couple of cops SAT ON THE GUY
and a couple more tried to get leg irons on him - WHILE HE BIT AT THEIR HANDS AND LEGS!
And as already mentioned - for all the cops know the guy is suffering from AIDS but nobody will tell them!
Eventually the cops TAZERED THE POOR HELPLESS HAND CUFFED PRISONER
and eventually managed to get the leg irons on him and then dumped him back in the cruiser!
People on street drugs BE CRAZED AND FREQUENTLY OBLIVIOUS TO PAIN!
And drugged asshats do REALLY STUPID STUFF!
Why are you talking about this in a canadian gun laws thread? How will Canadian laws prevent american racism?
I read up on Shavers.
Beyond belief.
Five hits from an AR 15 while the guy was on his knees, crawling (as directed) towards the officers.
We just wanted to watch you lose your shit, volunteer hall monitor. Sure enough. . .
And there is no American racism. It's all a hoax by the Hillary Obama Kenyan Muslim Socialist Deep State to keep America from Becoming Great Again!
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Nicolas Bain and Monique Boyer: Canada’s Revolving Door Injustice System
Published June 1, 2020 by Christopher di Armani Filed Under: Crime, Firearm Prohibition Orders, Guns
Today I examine the case of two New Brunswick drug dealers and the 53 guns seized from the home where they sold cocaine, crystal meth and, yes, illegal guns.
This RCMP search warrant and subsequent seizure of drugs and guns happened because someone, upset with these career drug dealers, lit two of their vehicles on fire on May 19th, sparking an RCMP investigation.
Is this what it takes to get New Brunswick RCMP to finally pay attention?
The Facts
On May 19, 2020, New Brunswick RCMP responded to a report of two vehicles on fire in the driveway of a home on Route 635.
After executing a search warrant at this residence on May 20th, RCMP seized 53 firearms, 3 kgs of cocaine, 5.5 kgs of crystal methamphetamine, an unreported amount of ammunition and Canadian currency.
“Many of the firearms were loaded, and some had serial numbers removed,” the RCMP press release stated.
New Brunswick RCMP issued an arrest warrant for Monique Boyer, who they arrested “without incident” on May 25th. She was remanded in custody. An unnamed 41-year-old woman was also arrested and released on an undertaking.
On May 27th, New Brunswick RCMP issued an arrest warrant for Nicholas Bain in connection with the May 20th illegal drug and gun seizures.
At the time of publishing police have still not arrested Nicholas Bain. RCMP identifies him as “a suspect in the investigation and may be dangerous.”
At Issue
Both Nicholas Bain and Monique Boyer have long criminal histories for selling illegal drugs and illegally possessing guns. (see details below)
Neither Nicholas Bain nor Monique Boyer could legally possess any of the 53 firearms seized on May 20, 2020.
Both Nicholas Bain and Monique Boyer epitomize the problem of Canada’s revolving door justice system where our judges play “catch and release” with habitual offenders.
Nicholas Bain was subject to a mandatory 10-year Firearm Prohibition Order per Section 109 of the Criminal Code due to his prior drug trafficking conviction.
Why didn’t his mandatory Firearm Prohibition Order stop Nicholas Bain from illegally obtaining 53 firearms?
Because Canada’s Firearm Prohibition Order system is designed to fail.
People with a history of violent offences are a proven danger to public safety, yet these are the people our government refuses to check on or track.
If you, like me, want to see violent criminal offenders tracked, please write to the Minister of Justice and the Minister of Public Safety and demand they introduce legislation to prevent more tragedies like this.
The Honourable David Lametti
Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
284 Wellington Street
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0H8
Email the Minister of Justice
The Honourable Bill Blair
Minister of Public Safety
House of Commons
Ottawa, Canada K1A 0A6
Email the Minister of Public Safety
Lengthy Criminal Histories
Monique Boyer
On October 11, 2017, RCMP charged Monique Boyer with dangerous operation of a motor vehicle, flight from police, driving while suspended and failing to comply with a probation order. The prior criminal act(s) resulting in her probation were not disclosed.
On April 27, 2017, five people, including Monique Boyer, were arrested on drug trafficking and firearms offences.
On January 29, 2020, Monique Boyer and Jesse Todd Logue were evicted from a residence owned by Jamie Alexander under New Brunswick’s Safer Communities and Neighbo0urhoods Act (SCAN).
In his ruling to close the drug house, Judge Terrence J. Morrison wrote:
In 2015, Nicholas Bain pleaded guilty to four counts of possession for the purpose of trafficking arising from his 2014 arrest for possession of a large quantity of cocaine, marijuana, benzylpiperazine (BZP), methamphetamine and a prohibited weapon.
Bain’s conviction for drug trafficking, in addition to his 35-month prison sentence, carries a mandatory 10-year Firearm Prohibition
Order per Section 109 of the Criminal Code.
Despite this 10-year Firearm Prohibition Order, Nicholas Bain easily managed to acquire, illegally, 53 guns.
https://christopherdiarmani.com/153...TnzI5NkPljagGdK3_U_rBycVWvc8X8MEMiBTuvD-57zx0
53 guns?
Keep in mind that Trudeau's new gun ban will make it even easier for people like this to obtain more guns, as tens of thousands of firearms are driven underground.
Published June 1, 2020 by Christopher di Armani Filed Under: Crime, Firearm Prohibition Orders, Guns
Today I examine the case of two New Brunswick drug dealers and the 53 guns seized from the home where they sold cocaine, crystal meth and, yes, illegal guns.
This RCMP search warrant and subsequent seizure of drugs and guns happened because someone, upset with these career drug dealers, lit two of their vehicles on fire on May 19th, sparking an RCMP investigation.
Is this what it takes to get New Brunswick RCMP to finally pay attention?
The Facts
On May 19, 2020, New Brunswick RCMP responded to a report of two vehicles on fire in the driveway of a home on Route 635.
After executing a search warrant at this residence on May 20th, RCMP seized 53 firearms, 3 kgs of cocaine, 5.5 kgs of crystal methamphetamine, an unreported amount of ammunition and Canadian currency.
“Many of the firearms were loaded, and some had serial numbers removed,” the RCMP press release stated.
New Brunswick RCMP issued an arrest warrant for Monique Boyer, who they arrested “without incident” on May 25th. She was remanded in custody. An unnamed 41-year-old woman was also arrested and released on an undertaking.
On May 27th, New Brunswick RCMP issued an arrest warrant for Nicholas Bain in connection with the May 20th illegal drug and gun seizures.
At the time of publishing police have still not arrested Nicholas Bain. RCMP identifies him as “a suspect in the investigation and may be dangerous.”
At Issue
Both Nicholas Bain and Monique Boyer have long criminal histories for selling illegal drugs and illegally possessing guns. (see details below)
Neither Nicholas Bain nor Monique Boyer could legally possess any of the 53 firearms seized on May 20, 2020.
A warrant for Nicholas (aka Nick) Bain was issued in Fredericton Provincial Court on May 27, 2020, for possession of a prohibited or restricted firearms with ammunition, without a licence or registration.
A warrant of arrest had been issued for 27-year-old Monique Boyer for possession of a prohibited or restricted firearm with ammunition, without a licence or registration.
A warrant of arrest had been issued for 27-year-old Monique Boyer for possession of a prohibited or restricted firearm with ammunition, without a licence or registration.
Both Nicholas Bain and Monique Boyer epitomize the problem of Canada’s revolving door justice system where our judges play “catch and release” with habitual offenders.
Nicholas Bain was subject to a mandatory 10-year Firearm Prohibition Order per Section 109 of the Criminal Code due to his prior drug trafficking conviction.
Why didn’t his mandatory Firearm Prohibition Order stop Nicholas Bain from illegally obtaining 53 firearms?
Because Canada’s Firearm Prohibition Order system is designed to fail.
People with a history of violent offences are a proven danger to public safety, yet these are the people our government refuses to check on or track.
- No police agency in Canada tracks individuals with Firearm Prohibition Orders registered against them.
- There is no legal requirement for police to track individuals with Firearm Prohibition Orders registered against them or routinely check on them to ensure compliance.
- There is no legal requirement for individuals with Firearm Prohibition Orders to notify police when they move to a new residence. Police have no idea where these people are.
If you, like me, want to see violent criminal offenders tracked, please write to the Minister of Justice and the Minister of Public Safety and demand they introduce legislation to prevent more tragedies like this.
The Honourable David Lametti
Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
284 Wellington Street
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0H8
Email the Minister of Justice
The Honourable Bill Blair
Minister of Public Safety
House of Commons
Ottawa, Canada K1A 0A6
Email the Minister of Public Safety
Lengthy Criminal Histories
Monique Boyer
On October 11, 2017, RCMP charged Monique Boyer with dangerous operation of a motor vehicle, flight from police, driving while suspended and failing to comply with a probation order. The prior criminal act(s) resulting in her probation were not disclosed.
On April 27, 2017, five people, including Monique Boyer, were arrested on drug trafficking and firearms offences.
On January 29, 2020, Monique Boyer and Jesse Todd Logue were evicted from a residence owned by Jamie Alexander under New Brunswick’s Safer Communities and Neighbo0urhoods Act (SCAN).
In his ruling to close the drug house, Judge Terrence J. Morrison wrote:
The Property is owned by respondent Jamie Alexander, who has convictions for drug and firearms offences. Jesse Logue is associated with Mr. Alexander and has carried on drug operations not only at the Property but at other properties owned by Mr. Alexander. Mr. Logue eluded arrest by police after they responded to a call of shots fired at the Property. As recently as August 28, 2019 Mr. Logue was arrested and quantities of drugs and firearms were seized. Although this occurred at another property, there is a clear link between Mr. Logue, Mr. Alexander and the Property. The Property has, in the past, been heavily fortified which is consistent with an illegal drug operation.
I am satisfied that the Property has been habitually used for a specified use (the illegal sale of drugs) and that the community or neighbourhood has been adversely affected as a result and is in present need of an order for its protection.
Nicholas BainI am satisfied that the Property has been habitually used for a specified use (the illegal sale of drugs) and that the community or neighbourhood has been adversely affected as a result and is in present need of an order for its protection.
In 2015, Nicholas Bain pleaded guilty to four counts of possession for the purpose of trafficking arising from his 2014 arrest for possession of a large quantity of cocaine, marijuana, benzylpiperazine (BZP), methamphetamine and a prohibited weapon.
Bain’s conviction for drug trafficking, in addition to his 35-month prison sentence, carries a mandatory 10-year Firearm Prohibition
Order per Section 109 of the Criminal Code.
Despite this 10-year Firearm Prohibition Order, Nicholas Bain easily managed to acquire, illegally, 53 guns.
https://christopherdiarmani.com/153...TnzI5NkPljagGdK3_U_rBycVWvc8X8MEMiBTuvD-57zx0
53 guns?
Keep in mind that Trudeau's new gun ban will make it even easier for people like this to obtain more guns, as tens of thousands of firearms are driven underground.
No, they say that the pun is the lowest form of humour.
Of course, I'm quoting Shakespeare, and you're probably quoting the scholar poet on the end stool of the bar.
I think you are the one who is losing your shit, but you don't know how to admit it.
At least I'm not shining my hall monitor badge and wagging my finger at people shrieking "Get to the proper thread! I command you under my authority as a member of the cheerleading squad!"
Oh Bondo - I guess you better lecture the LIE-berals among us!
For polluting the Purity of a Cdn oriented thread with YANKEE ISSUES!
LIE-berals LOVE IRRELEVANT SEGUES as a convenient change of subject
to AVOID CDN SUBJECTS that they find uncomfortable!
As cars DO NOT usually catch fire for no reason - and because the owner of said vehicle would likely
MAKE AN INSURANCE CLAIM! It stands to reason that cops WOULD INVESTIGATE!
WE DO PAY THEM TO INVESTIGATE CRIMES - including vandalism!
While you are not wrong in this case. if my car caught on fire, I should be treated like a victim not a suspect.
And, No. If I decide to file a claim with my insurance, no the police should not be investigating - that lies on the insurance company.