Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Curious Cdn

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while hoid fuccks around with a plastic handgun, his neighbor is doing this:

We have a 3D printer. I think that I'll get my son to print one up. I don't have the nerve to fire it, though. I'm very attached to my fingers, hands, eye balls, etc.
 

Hoid

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I have no use for a plastic handgun.

I'm not a terrorist or a criminal.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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there are over 50,000 men at Fort Hood - so 5% would be 2,500
First off, there are over 50,000 SOLDIERS at Fort Hood.

so a mere 2,500 armed soldiers at any one time.
OK, let me revise my estimate. Downward. Make it 1%.

Hoid, you know I take a middle ground on gun control. But I'm not trying to persuade you of anything here. I'm just telling you how it is.

On the average military base, the only people who go armed about their daily work are MPs and sentries.

Those who are on the rifle range have their ammunition issued to them when they get to the range, fire it there, and then go back to barracks either completely unarmed, or with their rifles but no ammunition.

Seriously, you have the wrong end of the stick here. Military regulations for soldiers possessing guns on-base are extremely strict, far more strict than they are for the civilian population. For example, when I was in, I was required to keep my personal guns and ammunition in the base armory. If I wanted to go shooting, I had to sign them out, say where I was going with them, and sign them back in immediately upon return to base (or when I was shooting on-base, immediately after finishing).

Believe me, any strict gun-control supporter would absolutely love it if military regulation of firearms was imposed on the entire country.
 

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Right, Soldiers.
 

Hoid

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The last time I was on a US army base and ate at the mess there were probably 1,000 assault rifles left outside under guard while the troops ate.

So I know without question that there are oodles if not shit loads of weapons on any army base at any given time.

I cannot offhand think of any other place than here where this would even be under consideration.

The presence of guns does not preclude a terrorist attack - be it a police station or an army base.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The last time I was on a US army base and ate at the mess there were probably 1,000 assault rifles left outside under guard while the troops ate.
Any ammo? I do hope you realize that without ammo, an assault rifle is a not-particularly-effective club.

So I know without question that there are oodles if not shit loads of weapons on any army base at any given time.

I cannot offhand think of any other place than here where this would even be under consideration.

The presence of guns does not preclude a terrorist attack - be it a police station or an army base.

I did my best to smarten you up, based on my 12 years of experience on U.S. Army, Navy, and Air Force bases.

Whether or not you choose to listen is, as always, entirely up to you.
 

Hoid

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All I can say is that having guns or not having guns is not going to stop a terrorist attack.

The investigation into the truck bombing in Lebanon made this crystal clear.
 

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While I'm adamantly opposed to interfering with responsible owners having guns, I am just as adamantly opposed to this recent process of 3 D printing plastic guns. No bonafide gun lover would want one and they would only be used for nefarious activities! What say you Colpy?
 

Colpy

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While I'm adamantly opposed to interfering with responsible owners having guns, I am just as adamantly opposed to this recent process of 3 D printing plastic guns. No bonafide gun lover would want one and they would only be used for nefarious activities! What say you Colpy?


They don't seem to be much good yet, but technology marches forward, and they will get better.


And it is impossible to keep the genie in the bottle.


People forget that even modern firearms are basically 19th century technology.


The gun I carried as a service revolver was patented in 1899. (S&W M&P .38 Special)



What many consider the best combat handgun around, used by elite police tactical units, was patented in 1905. (Colt 1911)



The first semi auto centrefire sporting rifle went on sale in 1903. (Remington Model 8)



I am not thrilled by the development, but it will make "gun control" a farce, and sensible people would refocus on people control, i.e, licensing. Basically, it will make trying to control guns a complete waste of time........and only laws against unlicensed possession a sane alternative to classification and restricted access.


That's not necessarily a bad thing.


In other words, I'm divided on the subject.
 

petros

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I have no use for a plastic handgun.

I'm not a terrorist or a criminal.

If it's a download and downloads are traceable, what is there to worry about unless behind a VPN but then again the routing into a VPN is traceable which leaves the question "is it time to ditch VPNS or live with the fact that your digital life is being monitored anyway and just let spooks do what they need to do since 99.9% of us have nothing to hide?"

They don't seem to be much good yet, but technology marches forward, and they will get better.


And it is impossible to keep the genie in the bottle.


People forget that even modern firearms are basically 19th century technology.


The gun I carried as a service revolver was patented in 1899. (S&W M&P .38 Special)



What many consider the best combat handgun around, used by elite police tactical units, was patented in 1905. (Colt 1911)



The first semi auto centrefire sporting rifle went on sale in 1903. (Remington Model 8)



I am not thrilled by the development, but it will make "gun control" a farce, and sensible people would refocus on people control, i.e, licensing. Basically, it will make trying to control guns a complete waste of time........and only laws against unlicensed possession a sane alternative to classification and restricted access.


That's not necessarily a bad thing.


In other words, I'm divided on the subject.
We have the tech for a firearm to only function while in the hands of the register owner. I have no issue with being a "from here on in" scenario but giving up transgenerational iron in the gun safe just ain't gonna happen.
 

spilledthebeer

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Since you derailed the books are still audited but away from the band members and taxpayers fingertips, we are told that the bands review the income statements at their annual meetings with the rest of the band and it is none of the taxpayers business what the money is being spent on.


EXACTLY MY POINT!!!!!!


LIE-berals are IGNORING A WHOLE RANGE OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR!!!!!



And the KEY POINT made by TWIN MOOSE is this: "that it is none of tax payers business" what natives do with our money!!!!!


Thanks to the $150 million tax dollars that Atiwapiskat band council blew through without leaving a single receipt behind - and thanks to the insane LIE-beral response to the Coulton Boushie shooting we can be SURE that native "RIGHTS" will be an election issue in 2019!!!!


And thanks to the number of Muslim immigrants being exposed as racist killers wanting to destroy the west- the Young St van driver, the Edmonton attacker, and the latest Danforth shooter- we can also expect that immigration and the swarming illegals coming to Canada without ANY security checks of any sort will also be an election issue!


And as the Trump trade war expands we can be sure that national security issues that LIE-berals are completely IGNORING will also be an election issue!!!!



With idiot LIE-berals on the WRONG SIDE of each of the messes that they have made!!!!
 

JamesBondo

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I started hunting when I was 10 yrs old. I took the hunter's training course before I was 16. Firearms safety through cadets, federal firearms safety twice since 1990. I have the highest respect for human life, police and the law. Frankly if there were more people like me, we wouldn't have a problem with firearms.

I do not expect the anti-gun crowd to ever get that through their thick skulls.
 

Hoid

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They don't seem to be much good yet, but technology marches forward, and they will get better.


And it is impossible to keep the genie in the bottle.


People forget that even modern firearms are basically 19th century technology.


The gun I carried as a service revolver was patented in 1899. (S&W M&P .38 Special)



What many consider the best combat handgun around, used by elite police tactical units, was patented in 1905. (Colt 1911)



The first semi auto centrefire sporting rifle went on sale in 1903. (Remington Model 8)



I am not thrilled by the development, but it will make "gun control" a farce, and sensible people would refocus on people control, i.e, licensing. Basically, it will make trying to control guns a complete waste of time........and only laws against unlicensed possession a sane alternative to classification and restricted access.


That's not necessarily a bad thing.


In other words, I'm divided on the subject.
in other words the NRA has said shit on this issue and you don't know what to think about it until they tell you what to think about it.

I started hunting when I was 10 yrs old. I took the hunter's training course before I was 16. Firearms safety through cadets, federal firearms safety twice since 1990. I have the highest respect for human life, police and the law. Frankly if there were more people like me, we wouldn't have a problem with firearms.

I do not expect the anti-gun crowd to ever get that through their thick skulls.
your deeply emotional attachment to you guns is touching. And you are correct that if everyone loved their guns as you do things would be fine.

but what do we do about the people who misuse guns and fire them randomly (or as directed by God or their dog) into groups of innocent people. Or use them them to kill other people trying to sell the same drugs as them?
 

DaSleeper

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I started hunting when I was 10 yrs old. I took the hunter's training course before I was 16. Firearms safety through cadets, federal firearms safety twice since 1990. I have the highest respect for human life, police and the law. Frankly if there were more people like me, we wouldn't have a problem with firearms.

I do not expect the anti-gun crowd to ever get that through their thick skulls.
Just quit arguing with the fool....those anti gun global warmists have swallowed their propaganda and you'll never change their mind!
 

Colpy

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in other words the NRA has said shit on this issue and you don't know what to think about it until they tell you what to think about it.


I am increasingly impressed by the depth of your stupidity.


The NRA is an American institution.


I'm a 7th generation Canadian.


The NRA has a fit over the idea of universal background checks, and would fight the revolution over any licensing requirement...........I think background checks, training and subsequent licensing are the way to go.



Try to get that through you thick head, then maybe I will educate you further, if possible.
 

JamesBondo

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I am increasingly impressed by the depth of your stupidity.


The NRA is an American institution.


I'm a 7th generation Canadian.


The NRA has a fit over the idea of universal background checks, and would fight the revolution over any licensing requirement...........I think background checks, training and subsequent licensing are the way to go.



Try to get that through you thick head, then maybe I will educate you further, if possible.

This is where I will disagree. IMO, whenever a seemingly good idea has been put into practise, there is a responsibility to track and evaluate how effective it has been at changing the problem that it is supposed to solve.

until the antigun crowd can actually prove that all these added bureaucracies are effective, I think the policies should be reviewed and ultimately the restrictions in our freedoms should be repealed.

In other words, make things better or **** off.

lets face it, 30 years of canadian gun control needs to be repealed if it hasn't stopped 1 bullet
 

spilledthebeer

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This is where I will disagree. IMO, whenever a seemingly good idea has been put into practise, there is a responsibility to track and evaluate how effective it has been at changing the problem that it is supposed to solve.

until the antigun crowd can actually prove that all these added bureaucracies are effective, I think the policies should be reviewed and ultimately the restrictions in our freedoms should be repealed.

In other words, make things better or **** off.

lets face it, 30 years of canadian gun control needs to be repealed if it hasn't stopped 1 bullet


I suggest that the current Cdn gun legislation is working and does not need altering!


The problem we are having is with LIE-beral immigration and with LIE-beral legal system!!!


WE have to deal with our home grown criminals but there is NO reason to be importing more thugs from other places!!!!


We live next door to the most heavily armed civilian population on the planet and smuggling of weapons will ALWAYS be a problem for us unless serious efforts are made- efforts that LIE-berals REFUSE to make either because it will cost them votes or because it will cut into their supply of gravy- OR BOTH!!!!!!


And we MUST deal more effectively with our home grown thugs!


LIE-berals excuse too much too often in exchange for buying votes!!!!!


Caning for minor crimes should be the norm!!!!!


Here is how seriously LIE-berals take our legal system:


In the past- when Whitby jail was still open- it would be quickly over crowded with drugged and drunken idiots on weekends

so LIE-berals solved the crowding problem by releasing all the longer serving inmates- who had already been processed- out for the weekend- they could just go home and stay with family till Sunday midnight- just so long as they promised to come back by that time!


So there it is Sunday- 11:40pm and the idiot guy I met is trying to buy Crack to take back to jail with him!!!!


And I am shrugging -sorry have no idea.....


And then I ask him: "are you not worried about showing up at the jail with your pockets full of drugs"? Especially since it was drug offenses that got him jail time to begin with!!!!!


And he shrugs and tells me: "its no problem - I can bring anything I want into the jail because we are on the Honour System"!!!!


Yeah- NO HONOUR among either LIE-beral or thieves!!!!!!


And LIE-berals want us to believe they are really TRYING to control the drug trade???????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!


OR CONTROL CRIME??????????????????????