Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[Hoid]

Bullshit.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/canada-s-murder-rate-lowest-since-1966-1.2674016

Just a minute!

In 1966, you could walk into a store and buy a semi-auto M1 Carbine and as many 30 round magazines as you wanted, and 1,000 rounds of ammunition............as long as you looked like you were 17 years old and had the money. No license. No training. No ID required. No background check. No waiting period.

Nothing.

As long as you were 17 years old, it was as easy as buying a Mars bar.

Not sure what you mean.

I am trying to point out that violence predates gun control.

We tried having little or no control on fire arms and guess what? It doesn't work either.

That many people who "don't like guns" do want to ban them.

The question for rational people is whether guns are or are not a net social good, with all that implies.

The answer is almost certainly neither yes nor no, but rather more or less.

It seems fairly self-evident to me that limiting the ammunition capacity of guns available to the civilian populace, for example, retains the value of guns whilst making mass shootings more difficult and less effective.

As I have said before, I also approve of ammunition control. I think every gun owner should be limited to keeping 20 rounds of ammunition for each calibre of gun she owns. Plenty for hunting and self defence. If you want to shoot more, buy it at the range and shoot it there. If social order decays to the point of revolution or chaos, larger quantities of ammo will be available.

Most people believe in some sort of gun control.

ON the extreme are the people who want to ban them and the people who want no controls whatsoever.

 

[JLM]

I don't like guns.

What is wrong with guns?

 

[Hoid]

I don't like guns much either, in the urban setting. I need a shot gun where I live so I have a shot gun and I use it as required. It's a tool, nothing more.

 

[Hoid]

Friend of mine has two handguns.

Makes him feel powerful when he shoots empty oil jugs.

ya I don't get this and never have.

 

[DaSleeper]

To me target shooting is like golf, muscle control and accuracy....
A friend of mine once asked me..."what kind of fun is shooting holes in a piece of paper, or a tin can?
I turned around the question to him, "What fun do you have chasing a ball around field and hitting it with a stick until you put it in a hole in the ground....
He said. "control and accuracy"....I said...."There you go"

 

[taxslave]

Glad it's not 1966.

Why? There were no terrorists domestic or foreign shooting up schools. Also everyone had hunting rifles in the back window of their trucks parked outside the bar and none were ever stolen and no one got shot. Much safer times.

 

[taxslave]

I said no one got shot. Sign posts don't move as fast.
The point being taking away our personal property hasn't made it any safer even though e pay a lot more Bureaucrats to make us think right.

 

[Hoid]

Why? There were no terrorists domestic or foreign shooting up schools. Also everyone had hunting rifles in the back window of their trucks parked outside the bar and none were ever stolen and no one got shot. Much safer times.

There was nobody shooting up schools?

I will have to remember that you have said this because I have been informed many times by your like-minded that school shootings have always happened.

 

[JLM]

Friend of mine has two handguns.

Makes him feel powerful when he shoots empty oil jugs.

That might be a good thing..................................as long as there's a good supply of empty oil jugs!

 

[JLM]

Freedom is great, until someone else's freedom ends up in your living room.



Don't like them.

Sorry.

It's not the guns Avro, it's the Assholes behind the guns!

 

[taxslave]

There was nobody shooting up schools?

I will have to remember that you have said this because I have been informed many times by your like-minded that school shootings have always happened.

Not in my part of the world.

 

[Colpy]

Not sure what you mean.

I am trying to point out that violence predates gun control.

We tried having little or no control on fire arms and guess what? It doesn't work either.



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My point is we have a tiny murder rate.

We also have a ridiculously over-restrictive gun control regimen.

In 1966 we also had a tiny murder rate.

In 1966 we had very, very little gun control.

Violence has been around since Cain smacked Abel with that rock. The question is does gun control have any effect on the level of violence?

The answer is very little, if any.

 

[Hoid]

My point is we have a tiny murder rate.

We also have a ridiculously over-restrictive gun control regimen.

In 1966 we also had a tiny murder rate.

In 1966 we had very, very little gun control.

Violence has been around since Cain smacked Abel with that rock. The question is does gun control have any effect on the level of violence?

The answer is very little, if any.

and yet you support gun control measures such as background checks and other common sense rules as does pretty much everyone. There are not all that many people who want to totally deregulate firearms.

 

[JLM]

Friend of mine has two handguns.

Makes him feel powerful when he shoots empty oil jugs.

Might be pretending they are his Mother -in-law's head!

 

[JamesBondo]

and yet you support gun control measures such as background checks and other common sense rules as does pretty much everyone. There are not all that many people who want to totally deregulate firearms.

when any 'common sense rules' fail to demonstrate a positive trend on an already wonderful country like Canada - especially after 30 years - the rules should be scrapped, and rightly so.

 

[Hoid]

when any 'common sense rules' fail to demonstrate a positive trend on an already wonderful country like Canada - especially after 30 years - the rules should be scrapped, and rightly so.

what rules should be scrapped?

 

[JamesBondo]

what rules should be scrapped?

all that havent affected improvement to an already wonderful canada.

 

[Hoid]

all that havent affected improvement to an already wonderful canada.

uh huh.

 

[JamesBondo]

uh huh.

you still don't get it. you should look up the oakes test.

 

[Hoid]

I would rather just go along with your sweeping non specific generalizations.