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as described, what "coercive power" are you (and your militia buddies) fearful of?
as described, what "coercive power" are you (and your militia buddies) fearful of?
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Big bad NRA giving advice to Canadian gun owners .....Oh my Gawd!!
And environmentalists......hmmm
Following the (primarily U.S.) money funding Canada's anti-oil movement - Alberta Oil Magazine | Canada's leading source for oil and gas newsAlberta Oil Magazine | Canada's leading source for oil and gas news
Big bad NRA giving advice to Canadian gun owners .....Oh my Gawd!!
And environmentalists......hmmm
Following the (primarily U.S.) money funding Canada's anti-oil movement - Alberta Oil Magazine | Canada's leading source for oil and gas newsAlberta Oil Magazine | Canada's leading source for oil and gas news
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Gee Whiz!! They came here to talk!!! The HORROR that Canadians might be exposed to a foreign IDEA!!!!!!
You'll have to do better than that. They have no involvement in Canada, in fact their constitution forbids them spending money outside the USA.
Did you read the article?
What are you talking about?
So many misconceptions.......
Canada has a homicide rate of 1.6 per 100,000.........very low.
Those who hold a firearms license are statistically less than half as apt to kill as the population at large. Look out your window. The first person you see, man, woman, child, babe in stroller, is statistically twice as apt to murder you as is a licensed gun owner, with or without handguns or military-style rifles.
There is no problem with legally held firearms.
You can most certainly hunt with a handgun anywhere that it is not illegal...you MAY not hunt with a handgun in Canada, but there are dozens of types of handguns made specifically for hunting.
Legal gun owners, of handguns or any other type of gun, are not the problem.
Quick follow-up shots from a semi-auto or pump action repeater can very much be an advantage in the field.
Assault rifles are selective-fire, semi and full auto.
The non restricted military-style semi-autos sold in Canada are chambered in some of the most popular hunting rounds available.
The SKS and VZ 58 are chambered in 7.62 x 39, a decent short range deer cartridge.
The Tokarev rifle is chambered in 7.62 x 54, a very good deer or moose cartride.
The M14 (and others) is chambered for the 7.62 x 51 NATO, the same as .308 Winchester, perhaps the best deer round out there.
The Mini 14 is chambered in 5.56 x 45 NATO, the same as .223 Remington...........a very popular varmit cartridge, and one of the most popular rifles around.
Restricted or prohibited for absolutely no reason other than appearance, but with the possibility of being excellent field guns are firearms like the AR 15, the AR 10, the FN FAL, the AK family, the H&K family, etc..
Gee Whiz!! They came here to talk!!! The HORROR that Canadians might be exposed to a foreign IDEA!!!!!!
You'll have to do better than that. They have no involvement in Canada, in fact their constitution forbids them spending money outside the USA.
Did you read the article?
What are you talking about?
So many misconceptions.......
Canada has a homicide rate of 1.6 per 100,000.........very low.
Those who hold a firearms license are statistically less than half as apt to kill as the population at large. Look out your window. The first person you see, man, woman, child, babe in stroller, is statistically twice as apt to murder you as is a licensed gun owner, with or without handguns or military-style rifles.
There is no problem with legally held firearms.
You can most certainly hunt with a handgun anywhere that it is not illegal...you MAY not hunt with a handgun in Canada, but there are dozens of types of handguns made specifically for hunting.
Legal gun owners, of handguns or any other type of gun, are not the problem.
Quick follow-up shots from a semi-auto or pump action repeater can very much be an advantage in the field.
Assault rifles are selective-fire, semi and full auto.
The non restricted military-style semi-autos sold in Canada are chambered in some of the most popular hunting rounds available.
The SKS and VZ 58 are chambered in 7.62 x 39, a decent short range deer cartridge.
The Tokarev rifle is chambered in 7.62 x 54, a very good deer or moose cartride.
The M14 (and others) is chambered for the 7.62 x 51 NATO, the same as .308 Winchester, perhaps the best deer round out there.
The Mini 14 is chambered in 5.56 x 45 NATO, the same as .223 Remington...........a very popular varmit cartridge, and one of the most popular rifles around.
Restricted or prohibited for absolutely no reason other than appearance, but with the possibility of being excellent field guns are firearms like the AR 15, the AR 10, the FN FAL, the AK family, the H&K family, etc..
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Is there a reason why the Mods don't combined the two threads titled "Gun Control is Completely Useless. ??"
The OP is Completely Useless.
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BOYS CLUB NO LONGER: Millions Of Women Are Buying Guns, Taking Up Shooting
It’s no secret to those of us in the industry that gun ownership in the United States is booming… so to speak.
While fewer Americans are willing to talk to unknown pollsters over the phone about their firearms, it is well-documented that gun companies are seeing record sales, that new and expansive ranges are being built by private businesses and government alike to meet the demand for firing line spaces, and training companies are seeing courses of almost every kind of sold-out on a frequent basis.
Data continuing to pour in suggests that these new shooters aren’t the traditional while, male, rural gun owners, either.
The number of women going to gun ranges has jumped roughly 60 percent since 2001 to more than five million, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
“I work third shift and it’s just, you get that ware on your body and the little things in life that you can handle but it adds a weight onto you that you can’t keep off, but when I come in here and shoot it flows right off and I feel like I’ve restarted,” said Harknett.
For the majority of female gun owners it’s more than just a way to unwind. It means being equal because for thousands of years weapons like swords and spears required strength to operate, meaning a man usually held the power… but not so with a gun. “Firearms only rely on chemical reactivity to provide the power to fire the weapon so women can now be equivalent to men when it comes to confronting a violent situation and succeeding,” said Leola University psychology professor David Crough.
Crough said that back in the days when we were hunter-gatherers people stayed in groups of about a hundred, making it easy to identify those who were dangerous. Now a days with bigger cities and denser populations people can be anonymous more easily, creating a greater need for defense, which he says is one of the reasons why as many as 20 million American women own guns. Businesses like Freedom Armory are starting to take advantage of this emerging demographic in the products they sell.
Perhaps one of the most interesting trends among female shooters is a rise in the number of young women—including pre-teen girls—becoming active in the shooting sports.
The last few Appleseeds I’ve attended as an instructor, I’ve actually seen more young female shooters on the firing line than young men, and while that is admittedly anecdotal and only apply to the one range over a random series of events, other instructors and firearms trainers in other disciplines are reporting a rise in women in concealed carry, defensive pistol, hunting safety, carbine classes, etc.
Shooting has historically been thought of as a pasttime for men, but it is clearly and increasingly a place where women are finding a home.
This new reality is critical to the growth of gun ownership and the expansion of gun rights. As these women join the ranks of shooters, they typically start including their families with them if they didn’t shoot already. Instead of firing lines being of fathers and sons as they were in the past, we’re seeing fathers and sons and mothers and daughters… and a need to build new ranges to accommodate them all.
This is an incredibly important development in the preservation and reapplication of our Second Amendment rights.
Once upon a time in America, gun control laws were nearly non-existent. Anti-gun Democrats spent much of the 20th century imposing these ever-more stringent gun laws, in hopes of gutting the Second Amendment or abolishing it entirely.
As more citizens get involved in shooting, the electoral power base of the gun control movement is rapidly beginning to erode. While the fight is far from over, we are not only winning the fight, but are on a long term trend that may seem the majority of the 20th Century’s draconian gun control laws wiped away entirely.
Ladies, thank you for being part of this fight.
source: Bearing ArmsBOYS CLUB NO LONGER: Millions Of Women Are Buying Guns, Taking Up Shooting - Bearing Arms
It's nice to see women empowering themselves.. self defense and no more rapes!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQHWTfFV3Vc
Is there a reason why the Mods don't combined the two threads titled "Gun Control is Completely Useless. ??"
The OP is Completely Useless.
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BOYS CLUB NO LONGER: Millions Of Women Are Buying Guns, Taking Up Shooting
It’s no secret to those of us in the industry that gun ownership in the United States is booming… so to speak.
While fewer Americans are willing to talk to unknown pollsters over the phone about their firearms, it is well-documented that gun companies are seeing record sales, that new and expansive ranges are being built by private businesses and government alike to meet the demand for firing line spaces, and training companies are seeing courses of almost every kind of sold-out on a frequent basis.
Data continuing to pour in suggests that these new shooters aren’t the traditional while, male, rural gun owners, either.
The number of women going to gun ranges has jumped roughly 60 percent since 2001 to more than five million, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
“I work third shift and it’s just, you get that ware on your body and the little things in life that you can handle but it adds a weight onto you that you can’t keep off, but when I come in here and shoot it flows right off and I feel like I’ve restarted,” said Harknett.
For the majority of female gun owners it’s more than just a way to unwind. It means being equal because for thousands of years weapons like swords and spears required strength to operate, meaning a man usually held the power… but not so with a gun. “Firearms only rely on chemical reactivity to provide the power to fire the weapon so women can now be equivalent to men when it comes to confronting a violent situation and succeeding,” said Leola University psychology professor David Crough.
Crough said that back in the days when we were hunter-gatherers people stayed in groups of about a hundred, making it easy to identify those who were dangerous. Now a days with bigger cities and denser populations people can be anonymous more easily, creating a greater need for defense, which he says is one of the reasons why as many as 20 million American women own guns. Businesses like Freedom Armory are starting to take advantage of this emerging demographic in the products they sell.
Perhaps one of the most interesting trends among female shooters is a rise in the number of young women—including pre-teen girls—becoming active in the shooting sports.
The last few Appleseeds I’ve attended as an instructor, I’ve actually seen more young female shooters on the firing line than young men, and while that is admittedly anecdotal and only apply to the one range over a random series of events, other instructors and firearms trainers in other disciplines are reporting a rise in women in concealed carry, defensive pistol, hunting safety, carbine classes, etc.
Shooting has historically been thought of as a pasttime for men, but it is clearly and increasingly a place where women are finding a home.
This new reality is critical to the growth of gun ownership and the expansion of gun rights. As these women join the ranks of shooters, they typically start including their families with them if they didn’t shoot already. Instead of firing lines being of fathers and sons as they were in the past, we’re seeing fathers and sons and mothers and daughters… and a need to build new ranges to accommodate them all.
This is an incredibly important development in the preservation and reapplication of our Second Amendment rights.
Once upon a time in America, gun control laws were nearly non-existent. Anti-gun Democrats spent much of the 20th century imposing these ever-more stringent gun laws, in hopes of gutting the Second Amendment or abolishing it entirely.
As more citizens get involved in shooting, the electoral power base of the gun control movement is rapidly beginning to erode. While the fight is far from over, we are not only winning the fight, but are on a long term trend that may seem the majority of the 20th Century’s draconian gun control laws wiped away entirely.
Ladies, thank you for being part of this fight.
source: Bearing ArmsBOYS CLUB NO LONGER: Millions Of Women Are Buying Guns, Taking Up Shooting - Bearing Arms
It's nice to see women empowering themselves.. self defense and no more rapes!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQHWTfFV3Vc
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I'm going to go out on a limb and state that ;"gun owners donate more money and time to wildlife and environmental conservation than any other self identitified group".
Any of you googlenauts care to disprove?
I'm going to go out on a limb and state that ;"gun owners donate more money and time to wildlife and environmental conservation than any other self identitified group".
Any of you googlenauts care to disprove?
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The HORROR that they may not accept your foreign idea.
Ya think that we haven't been exposed to that idea?
or any other idea from south of the border? They come to us load, clear, repeatedly again and again and louder the next time. Be are BOMBARDED with American ideas 24/7. It is relentless.
You're just shocked because we don't buy into some of them ... or a lot of them. It isn't a lack of information reaching Canadian ears (as is the situation in reverse). It is a fundamental difference in culture and values, hence the border.
The HORROR that they may not accept your foreign idea.
Ya think that we haven't been exposed to that idea?
or any other idea from south of the border? They come to us load, clear, repeatedly again and again and louder the next time. Be are BOMBARDED with American ideas 24/7. It is relentless.
You're just shocked because we don't buy into some of them ... or a lot of them. It isn't a lack of information reaching Canadian ears (as is the situation in reverse). It is a fundamental difference in culture and values, hence the border.
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Your education continued:
The principle of the right to keep and bear arms is an English construct, not an American one. It existed in English common law before the Magna Carta, and was recognized in the 1689 English Bill of Rights, 100 years before the US Bill of Rights was written. As subjects of the Crown, the idea comes to us directly from our constitutional history, totally apart from US history.
We'll let you digest that for awhile. I know it must be a shock.
Oh, perhaps you could explain to me the difference between Canadian and american culture and values? I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just curious to see how you describe them.
Your education continued:
The principle of the right to keep and bear arms is an English construct, not an American one. It existed in English common law before the Magna Carta, and was recognized in the 1689 English Bill of Rights, 100 years before the US Bill of Rights was written. As subjects of the Crown, the idea comes to us directly from our constitutional history, totally apart from US history.
We'll let you digest that for awhile. I know it must be a shock.
Oh, perhaps you could explain to me the difference between Canadian and american culture and values? I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just curious to see how you describe them.
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Drops back to pass. . . he's open. . . he heaves it. . . TOUCHDOWN! And the crowd goes wild!
Drops back to pass. . . he's open. . . he heaves it. . . TOUCHDOWN! And the crowd goes wild!
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Rabid gun-love and general ultra violence, for one. My people have lived on both sides of the border for over 300 years and I will tell you, child, that some of the differences are profound and some VERY subtle. You haven't lived very long, have you?
Rabid gun-love and general ultra violence, for one. My people have lived on both sides of the border for over 300 years and I will tell you, child, that some of the differences are profound and some VERY subtle. You haven't lived very long, have you?
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I agree in part, the long gun is by far the more important of the two for hunting, defense, resistance to tyranny. But there we part company. The value of a handgun for defense is not so much concealability as it is portability. The handgun is there on your hip when you need it. The long gun is probably not on your person if you are engaged in immediate activities other than hunting, defense, or resistance to tyranny.
I agree in part, the long gun is by far the more important of the two for hunting, defense, resistance to tyranny. But there we part company. The value of a handgun for defense is not so much concealability as it is portability. The handgun is there on your hip when you need it. The long gun is probably not on your person if you are engaged in immediate activities other than hunting, defense, or resistance to tyranny.
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'cause you ain't got enough downs to "run" the ball in our game!
Your education continued:
You're as arrogant as a Nazi.
'cause you ain't got enough downs to "run" the ball in our game!
Your education continued:
You're as arrogant as a Nazi.
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I still envision an expansion to 16 teams, 10 in Canada, 6 in the U.S. NO RULE WAIVERS! By which I mean even the U.S. teams have to meet the Canadian roster requirements.
Damn straight. Hope this doesn't disappoint you, Curious, but I'm a HUGE fan of the Canadian game, and particularly the Roughriders. I became a fan during the ill-fated expansion of 94 and 95, when the Baltimore Stallions were big in the CFL.
I still envision an expansion to 16 teams, 10 in Canada, 6 in the U.S. NO RULE WAIVERS! By which I mean even the U.S. teams have to meet the Canadian roster requirements.
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CHILD????
LoL
You're an idiot.
I've been lugging guns around for over 45 years. Do the math, if you are capable.
I have a degree in history and political science, and have spent my life reading history on my own. I am also a bit of a political junkie.
I have been a hunting safety instructor for the province of New Brunswick..
I have been an instructor for the Canadian Firearms Safety Program, both for long guns and for handguns.
I carried sidearms as a professional for over a decade.
I taught combat handgun and combat shotgun to armoured car guards when I became the provincial firearms instructor for the armoured services that employed me.
Now, you insolent puppy, perhaps you should STFU and listen to those who actually know something.
The American murder rate is currently 4.5 per 100,000 (2013). It has fallen 50% in the past 20 years, as gun laws became looser, not stricter.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state
http://www.ricknevin.com/uploads/USA_Murder_Rate_at_Historic_Record_Low.pdf
The world average is 6.2 per 100,000. The USA is a lot better than the world average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
The American murder rate is largely the product of the "ulta-violent" culture of inner cities (witness Baltimore) and is typically higher in places with strict gun control, and lower out where the guns are plentiful and easily obtained.
In the USA, you are much more apt to be beaten to death than killed with ANY type of rifle, including the military style ones........btw, the AR 15 (semi-auto M16) is the best selling rifle in the USA.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...able_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls
CHILD????
LoL
You're an idiot.
I've been lugging guns around for over 45 years. Do the math, if you are capable.
I have a degree in history and political science, and have spent my life reading history on my own. I am also a bit of a political junkie.
I have been a hunting safety instructor for the province of New Brunswick..
I have been an instructor for the Canadian Firearms Safety Program, both for long guns and for handguns.
I carried sidearms as a professional for over a decade.
I taught combat handgun and combat shotgun to armoured car guards when I became the provincial firearms instructor for the armoured services that employed me.
Now, you insolent puppy, perhaps you should STFU and listen to those who actually know something.
The American murder rate is currently 4.5 per 100,000 (2013). It has fallen 50% in the past 20 years, as gun laws became looser, not stricter.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state
http://www.ricknevin.com/uploads/USA_Murder_Rate_at_Historic_Record_Low.pdf
The world average is 6.2 per 100,000. The USA is a lot better than the world average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
The American murder rate is largely the product of the "ulta-violent" culture of inner cities (witness Baltimore) and is typically higher in places with strict gun control, and lower out where the guns are plentiful and easily obtained.
In the USA, you are much more apt to be beaten to death than killed with ANY type of rifle, including the military style ones........btw, the AR 15 (semi-auto M16) is the best selling rifle in the USA.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...able_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls
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Well, the math tells me that if you were lugging a .45, that's .01 per year.
Oh, expertise. Pffff! Who cares? We got CONVICTION!
Wowsers. "Insolent puppy." Me rikey!
This may be a good time to post this again.....
Canadian Firearms Program - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
The firearms act itself in PDF..... http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/F-11.6.pdf
Canadian Firearms Program - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
The firearms act itself in PDF..... http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/F-11.6.pdf
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Handgun owners are subjected to an automated police records check that runs on a daily basis. I would say it is your .303 british buddies that must be the problem, how often are they given a police records check?
Nobody needs a residential swimming pool yet they are responsible for 114 child drownings for every child accidentally killed by a firearm.
Most gun clubs don't want your cop killing, armor piercing, hunting rounds on their premises.
Did you get permission to speak for Nobody?
So you want people that are bad shots to stop practising.
The term assault rifle is overused by people that don't know what they are talking about. Please be more specific.
Handgun owners are subjected to an automated police records check that runs on a daily basis. I would say it is your .303 british buddies that must be the problem, how often are they given a police records check?
Nobody needs a residential swimming pool yet they are responsible for 114 child drownings for every child accidentally killed by a firearm.
Most gun clubs don't want your cop killing, armor piercing, hunting rounds on their premises.
Did you get permission to speak for Nobody?
So you want people that are bad shots to stop practising.
The term assault rifle is overused by people that don't know what they are talking about. Please be more specific.
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LOL!!
Perhaps I should be nicer to the puppy....maybe a scratch behind the ears?
LOL!!
Perhaps I should be nicer to the puppy....maybe a scratch behind the ears?