Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Cannuck

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It's okay Cannucklehead, you don't have to be so jealous that this idiot truck driver has more money than you and is more successful than you.

Calm down. You’ve been pissy ever since you found out I can afford to retire in a nicer place than you. It’s only money.
 

spilledthebeer

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Why not?

Because nobody says "OK everybody lets put on our football shirts"




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nobody HAS TO SAY: "Ok everybody lets put on our football shirts"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Players do it automatically when they get ready to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What a lame ass attempt........................................................


to divert from the real issue of gun control.................................................


and more important -the CRITICAL ISSUE OF CRIME CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Typical HOID LIE-beral CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are totally ineffective at EVERYTHING....................................


except grabbing gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our environment minister Climate Barbie McKenna


points out that Canada is BLESSED with natural resources ............................................



and then she supports insane environmental assessment bills that will ENSURE we never get to USE or export any of the resources!!!!!!!!!!!


People are AFRAID to drink their tap water for fear of how much toxic lead pipe is STILL BEING USED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because it would cut into the HOG gravy supply if they had to dig up all that lead pipe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals boast of their concern for the environment ......................................................


and then shrug off millions of gallons of sewage over flowing from obsolete waste treatment plants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals refuse to do anything to halt the over flows because it would cut into their supply of gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The quality of our food is being constantly degraded by all these Salmonella and Listeria recalls........................................


that are nothing more than the result of SLOPPY handling that LIE-berals refuse to regulate effectively because it might cut into their gravy supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are SO SLOPPY you take risks even buying bottled water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:::::::







Here is an article illustrating how little interest LIE-berals have in the quality of the food we eat and the water we drink! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Customers flag bottled water smelling of 'old socks' and 'urine,' but CFIA says it poses no health risk

By Chris Arsenault. CBC.

Published March 3, 2019

In Canada, tap and bottled water are generally safe for consumers, says food policy professor Sylvain Charlebois.

(“Generally safe” says the expert- leaving out the details! Such as- testing water quality at the city water treatment plant indicates the water is safe- but NOBODY is looking into what kind of water is being delivered to city houses after it has been passed through a series of TOXIC LEAD WATER PIPES - on the way to our houses - that the city has not bothered to replace because it would cut into their gravy supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Over ten percent of Toronto houses are being supplied with water containing toxic levels of lead- with another batch of houses getting water with lower lead levels - all thanks to Hogs refusal to replace waste THEIR GRAVY replacing lead pipe!!!!)

Some of Canada's big brands have sold bottled water that smells like "urine," tastes like "old socks" or reeks of "diarrhea," according to four years' worth of government inspection reports obtained by CBC News.

(Oh it sounds great- drink up! Lots of people drink bottled water because THEY DO NOT TRUST tap water! And LIE-berals long ago stopped telling us how much they spend on bottled water for HOGS at Queens Park! Though it does not stop them telling us how wasteful we are to drink bottled water!!!!!!!!!!!)

Dasani, owned by Coca-Cola; Real Canadian natural spring water, owned by Loblaws, one of Canada's largest grocery-store chains; and Refreshe spring water, from the Safeway grocery chain, are just some of the brands whose water has been hit with complaints over foul smells, tastes or unusually high levels of sulphur, the reports said.

(It makes one wonder what source for water is being used? Water supplies near cities are always of lower quality- yet hauling water from more pristine sources much further away puts up costs! Companies balance cost and quality and it sounds like cost is winning?? )

(Not to mention that the LIE-beral carbon tax SCAM makes it ever more costly to ship products long distance!! Is the quality of bottled water one of the first casualties of the carbon tax scam?????????)

Consumers complained that water sold at a Safeway Canada store smelled like 'sulphur,' and the company who produced the water pledged to make improvements at its manufacturing facilities. Safeway's Canadian operations were purchased by Sobeys in 2013.

(The state of California, along with LIE-beral Ontari-owe and Quebec formed a carbon tax scam alliance several years back to sell carbon “credits” to business and such a tax makes it prohibitive to ship products long distance!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Ontari-owe under Ford has opted out of the carbon credit crap- but California and Quebec have stayed in it- with California- starting its carbon credits at $10 per megatonne in 2017- and the price jumping to $20 in 2018 and with other major jumps in carbon credit price expected each year into the future!!!!!!!!!!)

Other firms were found to be bottling water in "filthy conditions." Toronto-area operator Canadian Shield Natural Spring Water was pumping water behind an amusement park with no safety testing facilities, bathroom or hand washing station for employees, one of the inspection reports found.

(So the problem is not just sketchy water supplies- the conditions inside the bottling facility are also disgusting!!!!)

The firm couldn't be reached for comment as the address listed for the company in inspection reports no longer houses a bottled water company.

(So exactly what sort of fly by night operators have our major store chains contracted out their water bottling operations over to?? Cost saving is apparently driving all corporate choices- and doing the same for lazy govt inspectors as well!!)

(If complaints about bottled water are made- the store can assure customers it will discuss the issue with suppliers! That nasty “don’t ask and dont tell” philosophy is poisoning our water supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The problems were documented in nearly 800 pages of Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) reports from 2014 until 2018, obtained under the Access to Information Act.

The inspection reports underscore sporadic problems at bottling facilities, including excess moisture trapped under the caps of bottles; complications related to factory air compressors; and conspicuous levels of sulphur.

However, the CFIA didn't identify any structural health or safety problems in the industry and said the stinky water some consumers had complained about did not pose a danger.

'There were issues' "Yes, there were issues, but all of them were resolved," said Elizabeth Griswold, executive director of the Canadian Bottled Water Association, who reviewed the CFIA inspection reports for CBC News.

"Health Canada and the CFIA do a great job ensuring bottled water sold is safe. And this report confirms it."

Of the 24 complaints investigated by CFIA over four years, only two resulted in voluntary recalls related to health and safety issues, Griswold said.

One concerned Edmonton-based company All 4 Water and came after blue strands of plastic were found in four-litre jugs of Mountain Park water distributed to 17 locations in Alberta in 2016. The CFIA asked for maintenance records from the firm as the problem was linked to its bottle capping machine, but it did not alert the pubic about the voluntary recall.

The other recall involved Island Springs Water Company in Prince Edward Island after unacceptable levels of coliform bacteria were detected in its water in 2015, which was sold directly to consumers and not in retail outlets.

The unsold water from the contaminated batch of 100 bottles was dumped, but water already sold was not recalled. The firm pledged to improve its washing facilities.

(It seems clear that LIE-berals are providing bottled water companies with the same sort of not so rigorous oversight that has produced such things as the fatal Listeria poisoning from that Maple Leaf meat processing plant and the same govt attention to detail is producing ongoing contamination of our food with things like Salmonella!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And what of the recent report from university students revealing how many brands of fish sold in Toronto are miss-labeled - cheap stuff claiming to be more expensive types- and even worse- often contaminated with assorted disgusting stuff- in one case the fish sample had LICE on it!!!!!!!!!!!)

The CFIA said it has not issued any mandatory recalls for bottled water since 2014 and that health and safety issues at water bottling companies aren't common.

Sylvain Charlebois, a food policy professor at Dalhousie University, said there is "not much difference" between bottled water and tap water from a health and safety perspective.

(Yes- but most municipalities ALSO have those MILES of toxic lead water pipe!!!!)

"Most municipalities have very strong water systems ... whether bottled water is superior is open for debate. It boils down to the assurance of the brand itself and what kind of assurance you need as a consumer."

Large, popular brands, however, haven't been immune to quality-control issues.

After receiving a complaint in 2015 from a consumer in Manitoba who purchased a bottle of Dasani water at a local supermarket that smelled like "old socks," CFIA investigators opened five bottles that had come from the same factory in Brampton, Ont.
They agreed the water had an "off odour" that was "very strong."

In its correspondence with the CFIA, the company said it had received four complaints about "moldy/musty odour" in 500 ml Dasani water bottles from that factory over the previous six months.

"Canadians can be confident in the safety and quality of all Coca-Cola products, including Dasani water," company spokesperson Shannon Denny said in written responses to questions about the smell.


"We concluded that the unusual odour was from additional moisture on the bottles from rinsing prior to being packaged into cases.… Incidents such as this one are isolated," she said.

(Mass production of a product may also means mass contamination of a product!!!!!)

CFIA was satisfied appropriate action had been taken to fix the problem, Denny said.

In 2015, a customer went shopping for Real Canadian bottled water at a No Frills store in Vancouver.

"I bought a pack of 24 500 ml bottles. The water smells like poo," the consumer wrote to the CFIA.

"I got it exchanged once. The second pack has the same problem. I wonder what kind of shitty bugs I have been consuming."

Half a dozen similar complaints were found in the CFIA database about water sold by No Frills parent company Loblaw Companies Ltd. at various stores. Consumers reported that the Real Canadian water they had bought smelled like "garbage," "diarrhea" and "toilet water."

Those smells "are typically associated with spoilage microorganisms and are not considered [indicative of] pathogens of public health concern," the CFIA said.

(Oh a nice bottle of SPOILAGE to enjoy on a hot day! Yummy!!!!!!!!!!)

Catherine Thomas, senior director of external communication for Loblaw Companies, told CBC News the firm launched an investigation following a few customer complaints.

The cause of smell in the bottles likely came from a compressed air filtering system in the facility that produced the water, according to CFIA files. The air tank was replaced with a new system later in 2015.

"Our vendor identified the source of the issue as part of the manufacturing process and immediately took action to resolve it," Thomas said. "We have high standards for our products, as we know Canadians do."

A person who purchased a case of Refreshe spring water at a Safeway in British Columbia in 2014 said it smelled like "urine" or "sulphur" and was subsequently offered a $50 certificate to the grocery store chain after making a complaint. The person contacted the CFIA.

Inspectors began looking into other bottles of water from the same production line and found a series of "off-odours," including "egg-like," "algae-like" "sulphur-like" and "fecal-like" smells. The same brand of water received complaints from consumers shopping at Loblaws and Canadian Tire, the CFIA said.

Samples were sent to experts at Guelph University, who concluded that the proportion of sulphur was unusually high.

When presented with the lab report, a spokesperson for the bottling company said: "To be honest with you, no idea why it is high. Concerning our source, nothing changed, and all the parameters are good."

(High sulphur levels are common in some water sources- depending on local geography! Should we ask if the company has taken so much water from its wells that it is now pulling in lower quality water from distant sources with high sulphur content??????

The company pledged to continue investigating and to change filters in its production facility and conduct other types of maintenance.

Sobeys purchased Safeway Canada's stores in 2013 and stopped buying water from that supplier two years later as part of its broader corporate integration, a company official told CBC News.

"Whenever we receive a product complaint, we immediately contact the supplier," said Sobey's spokesperson Jacquelin Weatherbee.

(Yes- that is classic buck passing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The company did that in December 2014.

"The CFIA would have then completed the investigation directly with the supplier," she said.

(Uh huh- and virtually all the problems listed seem to have casual maintenance work as the ultimate source of the trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

JLM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nobody HAS TO SAY: "Ok everybody lets put on our football shirts"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Players do it automatically when they get ready to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Hey, STB who in his right mind do you think is going to read that screed?
 

spilledthebeer

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Who's arguing?




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOID ARGUES......................................................


about arguing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral Fake News spreader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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Continued strong public support - two thirds - for more and better gun control.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/public-support-federal-gun-control-legislation

Like plastic recycling this is something the average Canadian agrees with in principle and would support if given the option.

Step one for the anti-everythings is therefore to make sure no option is presented.




OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BAG that LIE-beral fertilizer and sell it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdns insist on CRIMINAL CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Only a small cabal of LIE-berals actually want gun control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are increasingly OUT OF STEP with Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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Hey, STB who in his right mind do you think is going to read that screed?




People who want an antidote to the nasty Fake News that LIE-berals spew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals themselves read EVERY WORD I WRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They seek frantically and desperately for a flaw or weakness in the anti LIE-beral argument!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals and their polices are FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!