Gun Control is Completely Useless.

JamesBondo

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But whatabout ladders?

no one should be allowed to privately own a residential ladder. only the government, military, criminals, and heavily regulated trades workers shall have them.

And, every time someone is injured we will claim that the laws are not strict enough because it is universally understood by liberal arts graduates that ultimately if no one moves, no one will be hurt.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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no one should be allowed to privately own a residential ladder. only the government, military, criminals, and heavily regulated trades workers shall have them.

And, every time someone is injured we will claim that the laws are not strict enough because it is universally understood by liberal arts graduates that ultimately if no one moves, no one will be hurt.

I'm glad we were able to come to agreement on this. They should sell guns, no ID, no checks, no questions at 7-11, and ladders should be limited to licensed professionals working for the government.

Imagine the horror if people start 3D printing ladders!
 

hifigadget

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Good to know that you can tell the difference. Being a gun nut can be a lonely existence.

America desperately wants and needs a new gun policy.==
NO, I think they should follow / enforce the laws already on the books. In the latest Texas case, the military didn’t tell the FBI that the thug had been dishonorably discharged for domestic abuse. His name should have been flagged as ineligible to buy a gun.
 

Colpy

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I agree. Canadian guns laws should be more restrictive.


Which means either you do not have a clue about the extensive restrictions we have now, or you don't care about actual effective gun laws, you just want to harass gun owners because it makes you feel virtuous.


You know the gov't you support is pushing through C-71, which is simply harassment to no logical benefit, and talking about handgun bans.....


While at the same time pushing C-75, which lowers criminal penalties for gang affiliation and gun smuggling.


In other words, you people are drooling morons.
 

spilledthebeer

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Perhaps start off with more guns but downgrade the ammo so it is non lethal.


Poor LIE-berals!!!!!!!! Our idiot Boy Justin and his moronic minions are collapsing into deranged idiocy and all LIE-berals here can do is discuss Yankee gun laws!!!!


And as |I have said- LIE-beral policies have reached such a dismal point that LIE-berals have only Fake News and deliberate HIDING of facts as a defense!



Here is an article presenting a view that we should be deeply suspicious of. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Violent behaviour down sharply among Ontario students: Survey

From Canadian Press. Published: July 25, 2018. Updated: July 25, 2018 3:02 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario

TORONTO — Violence and other anti-social behaviour among Grade 7 to Grade 12 students in Ontario has dropped significantly over the past two decades, according to one of the longest-running mental-health studies of its type.

In addition, results from the latest Ontario Student Drug Use and Health Survey being released Wednesday show a sharp overall drop in bullying, although cyberbullying remains a consistent problem.

(Oh yes- just as serious crime has moved online because its harder to get caught while doing online scams- so too have bullies moved online for the same reasons!
Nobody is patrolling cyber space and cops are no longer allowed to patrol school property! Claiming there is less bullying just because teachers deliberately choose not see it in the school yard does not mean its faded out of existence- as LIE-beral `educrats` want us to believe! School trustees and their LIE-beral minded allies of the civil service unions are trying hard to cater to vocal minorities and are struggling to HIDE the consequences of forcing cops out of school patrols! LIE-berals would also like to bury the recent report that told us kids feel SAFER in school with cops around and this flies in the face of LIE-beral political correctness that dictates cops are not needed!!)

“This decline in risk behaviours over time parallels the declines seen in drug-using behaviours … suggesting a wider cultural shift to less externalizing or rebellious behaviours among young people today compared with previous generations,” the researchers from the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health say. “Ongoing monitoring will determine whether these trends reflect more enduring changes or temporary fluctuations.”

(WE have seen the same `reduction` in major crime thanks to LIE-beral statisticians! A couple of decades back, LIE-berals changed the way crime numbers were counted in order to make our society look safer- LIE-berals started recording “crime scenes” rather than individual crimes- meaning that although multiple crimes might have been committed- there was only ONE crime scene on public record- and finding out the details became much harder with that kind of record thanks to privacy laws also introduced by LIE-berals!)

(LIE-berals also introduced plea bargaining which makes major crimes into minor ones and make minor crimes disappear entirely! LIE-berals are using the same method of producing Fake News to make our schools LOOK safer!

The survey of students has been done every two years since 1977, making it the longest ongoing school survey of adolescents in Canada and one of the longest in the world, the researchers say. More than 11,000 students in Grade 7 through 12 from 214 schools took part in last year’s edition.

(LIE-berals have been keeping crime record for much longer and it did not stop them from constantly telling us crime numbers were down- and now they are in a panic to hire more cops to catch up with guns, gangs, fentynal smugglers and mad dog terrorists!)

One of the most dramatic changes uncovered by the survey relates to the prescription of opioid pain relievers to students — an important finding given the current addiction and overdose crisis that has killed tens of thousands of people across North America in recent years. Over the past decade, medical use of prescribed opioids among students has plunged to 18 per cent from 41 per cent, the survey finds.

(So kids no longer get prescription opioids nearly as often- then why is the such a spike in opioid use? LIE-berals talk us in circles as usual!)

Among concerning trends, the survey indicates a growing number of the students — particularly girls — have symptoms of depression and anxiety. In fact, the study finds, slightly more than half of female students in Ontario show signs of moderate to serious psychological distress — the first time that threshold has been crossed since the survey started tracking the issue in 2013.

(LIE-berals have noted rising levels of emotional stress among our kids? Would that be from the marvellous lack bullying kids are dealing with- or due to the scale and scope of LIE-beral Fake news about our lives?)

“Female students are more than twice as likely than males to report elevated stress, poor mental health, seeking mental health counselling, thoughts of suicide, and being prescribed medication for anxiety or depression,” said Dr. Hayley Hamilton, the survey co-lead.

While 19 per cent of students rate their mental health as fair or poor — sharply higher since 2007 — more than half say theirs is very good or excellent.

When it comes to bullying at school, about one in five students reported being victims — down sharply from one in three since 2003. However, the same number reported being cyberbullied — unchanged from previous surveys.

The study also turned up marked differences between girls and boys. For example, males are much more likely to engage in daily physical activity and get at least eight hours of sleep. They are also more likely to be anti-social, gamble, or spend excessive hours playing video games. Girls, however, are more likely to report inferior mental and physical health, physical inactivity, and fears of harm at school.

(Uh huh- boys get mad and take action while girls get upset and seek help! This is supported by the research of the British behavioural specialist B.F. Skinner!)
 

spilledthebeer

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You truly have no clue about anything.That is the result of believing dogma instead of logic. Our gun laws are already oppressive to legit gun owners. The problem is the existing laws are not being applied criminals.


LIE-berals are desperate to distract from their catch and release/hug a thug legal system that FAILS ON ALL COUNTS!!!!


LIE-beral legal system does not rehabilitate- as we see from the number of REPEAT OFFENDERS!


And it does not punish as we see- again from undaunted repeat offenders!!



Nor does the LIE-beral legal system put career criminals away for extended periods of time- for our protection!


Our gun control system is working just fine- long guns are RARELY USED IN CRIMES- a fact LIE-berals are pretending to ignore!!!!


And pistols- the preferred tool of thugs everywhere are so restricted in Canada as to be virtually non existent!


And LIE-berals DO KNOW exactly how many LEGAL pistols are out there thanks to the much greater amount of legal regulation around the purchase and owning of a pistol!!!!


LIE-berals are so afraid they may lose votes if they reveal the truth about crime that they want to PRETEND that banning guns will somehow make us Safer in spite of studies done in places like Australia and Britain that home invasions by drug addled thugs ARE MORE LIKELY TO OCCUR if the thugs can be certain they will not meet a gun toting home owner!!!


The scale and scope of LIE-beral Fake News is reaching epidemic proportions!!!!!!



How can LIE-berals expect to be taken seriously on anything or be re-elected when all they do is sell us Fake News and relentless distortions of the truth????
 

MHz

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— the first time that threshold has been crossed since the survey started tracking the issue in 2013.
Most surveys have the summary already written before any data is in. To get a real breakdown the data needs to be examined to see what the causes were in places it got better and in places that didn't do too well. If that data isn't available there probably isn't any anywhere.
In an election year are you going to admit crime is 4x as bad as it was under your opponent?
 

Bar Sinister

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Jan 17, 2010
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Which means either you do not have a clue about the extensive restrictions we have now, or you don't care about actual effective gun laws, you just want to harass gun owners because it makes you feel virtuous.


You know the gov't you support is pushing through C-71, which is simply harassment to no logical benefit, and talking about handgun bans.....


While at the same time pushing C-75, which lowers criminal penalties for gang affiliation and gun smuggling.


In other words, you people are drooling morons.


Sorry, Unless you come up with something that actually makes sense I see no point in responding. Continue to enjoy your gun porn.

You truly have no clue about anything.That is the result of believing dogma instead of logic. Our gun laws are already oppressive to legit gun owners. The problem is the existing laws are not being applied criminals.


Sorry, I completely disagree. We register handguns, but ignore the much more dangerous rifles and shotguns.
 

JLM

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Sorry, I completely disagree. We register handguns, but ignore the much more dangerous rifles and shotguns.


What percentage of gun crime is committed with a hand gun? What percentage of gun crime is committed with a shot gun?

Sorry, Unless you come up with something that actually makes sense I see no point in responding. Continue to enjoy your gun porn.




Sorry, I completely disagree. We register handguns, but ignore the much more dangerous rifles and shotguns.


As long as you are debating guns with Colpy and taxslave, B.S. you are going to come out on the losing end of the argument.