Well, the simplest answer is that provinces have no input into firearms laws. But a better answer is that most Albertans are not simpletons.
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Well, the simplest answer is that provinces have no input into firearms laws. But a better answer is that most Albertans are not simpletons.
And what planet is Tayeksus on?
For sure but some of them can be God damned stubborn and Pig headed!
I find people are stubborn and pig headed more often when I try to get them to do something that I have no right to. Who'd da thunk that,eh?
Perhaps the best we can hope for is people take the time to aim and then drop the hammer. If you need a full auto you migh be the one that needs to be killed.
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I went looking to isolate two populations,..."
That would produce a result that would somehow negate the fact that America's murder rate is 5.5 /100,000 vs Canada's 1.8 /100,000?
And that it would all be based on gun control laws?
Here is the problem: you are comparing three of the least violent states in America to the three most violent provinces in Canada.
If you are going to compare the influence of gun laws in two different places I would say that you have to compare the influence of gun laws in those two places: for instance - guns are used in 41% of robberies in America while they are used in 16% of Canadian robberies.
Or how about an estimated 70% of shootings in Toronto are committed with illegal guns coming in from America? (a surprisingly similar stat to the number of shootings in Chicago being committed with illegal weapons coming in from neighboring non controlled jurisdictions)
Science does not start with an opinion and then collect information that supports that opinion.
This is why the anti gun control argument is so tedious.
I went looking to isolate two populations,..."
That would produce a result that would somehow negate the fact that America's murder rate is 5.5 /100,000 vs Canada's 1.8 /100,000?
And that it would all be based on gun control laws?
Here is the problem: you are comparing three of the least violent states in America to the three most violent provinces in Canada.
If you are going to compare the influence of gun laws in two different places I would say that you have to compare the influence of gun laws in those two places: for instance - guns are used in 41% of robberies in America while they are used in 16% of Canadian robberies.
Or how about an estimated 70% of shootings in Toronto are committed with illegal guns coming in from America? (a surprisingly similar stat to the number of shootings in Chicago being committed with illegal weapons coming in from neighboring non controlled jurisdictions)
Science does not start with an opinion and then collect information that supports that opinion.
This is why the anti gun control argument is so tedious.
You are comparing the three most violent provinces in Canada to three of the least violent states in America.
It does not explain America having 3 times more gun violence than Canada.
It also does not explain both countries having more and more firearms control and lower rates of gun violence.
It does not explain America having 3 times more gun violence than Canada.
It also does not explain both countries having more and more firearms control and lower rates of gun violence.
Bullshit.
I compared the states and the provinces because they share the same population levels, they are separated by a simple line in the sand (the border), and the US states have very lax laws.
The most violent province/territory in the US and Canada combined is Nunavut/Northwest Territories.
Homicide offences, number and rate, by province and territory (Homicide rate)
The two states with the lowest murder rates are New Hampshire and Vermont. Vermont has no gun laws. None.....only federal law requiring instant background checks.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state
US murder rates are driven by violent inner cities, not the availability of guns.
I'm wondering when people are going to get it through their thick heads, that # of guns has very little to do with gun violence. # of f**ked up people has a lot to do with it. Can anyone tell me how it can be expressed any simpler than that?
Anyone can get guns in the USA.........
According to the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office, Brian Desario, 30, shot and killed a friend of his mother’s, 56-year-old David Armstrong on Thursday afternoon. Desario believed that Armstrong was hitting on his girlfriend, a woman law enforcement officials said doesn’t exist.
When deputies arrived at the scene, Disario turned his gun on them, prompting a shootout and causing a nearby elementary school to go on lockdown.
According to WKRN’s sister station WFLA, deputies pulled back and attempted to negotiate with Disario before using a robot to enter the home. When deputies were able to safely enter, they found Disario dead inside. The exact cause of death is still under investigation.
Disario reportedly had a history of mental illness. Investigators said Disario managed to stockpile weapons and ammunition, but they aren’t sure how.
Florida man kills family friend for hitting on imaginary girlfriend | WKRN News 2
According to the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office, Brian Desario, 30, shot and killed a friend of his mother’s, 56-year-old David Armstrong on Thursday afternoon. Desario believed that Armstrong was hitting on his girlfriend, a woman law enforcement officials said doesn’t exist.
When deputies arrived at the scene, Disario turned his gun on them, prompting a shootout and causing a nearby elementary school to go on lockdown.
According to WKRN’s sister station WFLA, deputies pulled back and attempted to negotiate with Disario before using a robot to enter the home. When deputies were able to safely enter, they found Disario dead inside. The exact cause of death is still under investigation.
Disario reportedly had a history of mental illness. Investigators said Disario managed to stockpile weapons and ammunition, but they aren’t sure how.
Florida man kills family friend for hitting on imaginary girlfriend | WKRN News 2
I agree but it's an infinitesimal portion of U.S. Society!
It's basically a good thing to be able to easily get guns, with the exception of a tiny portion of the population where it's a very bad thing! Don't let the vile minority f**k things up for the majority!
They always do , remember the Sea Fest ?I agree but it's an infinitesimal portion of U.S. Society!
It's basically a good thing to be able to easily get guns, with the exception of a tiny portion of the population where it's a very bad thing! Don't let the vile minority f**k things up for the majority!
You have a point. That makes it a PEOPLE problem. The US cut its teeth on violence. If it wasn't early type of weaponry, and other insane viscous tactics ......violence and aggression is in the american DNA. Aggression is confused with confidence and becomes acceptable. Guns a gun ownership are as American" as the US flag. Reality is that if they try to introduce firmer gun ownership and usage laws.......they will be met with a revolution........as the gun ownership is their constitutional right. So unless the wording in the constitutions is changed and it starts right from the top..........the present situation will just continue. Each time there is a Mass shooting....... there will be just a reputation of the "shock", "grief" and some words about how terrible it is...........along with candle light vigils........but NOTHING WILL CHANGE It will requite an adjustment in the cultural DNA What is astounding is that the Americans are still "shocked" when it happens. Or Are they?? as they immediately go into the candle vigil mode and PUBLIC grieving. as if it is part of the ritual now. But give up their guns?? No Way. Makes one ask about the chronic fear of something, the enemy?/ or whatever that exists as part of this syndrome. one cannot ignore the fact that there is plenty of fear mongering by powerful institutions.
Maybe in S. Alberta. But we are not anywhere near as aggressive or arrogant or believe that owning a gun is our "RIGHT". If folks own guns here , the reasons are not "because it is our RIGHT " Depending on what part of Canda one lives in...... the gun usage is unique to the region. For eg Surrey BC and its stupid gangs......well self explanatory. Northern Canada gun usage is different .
Gun ownership here is a choice NOT A RIGHT. A very different basic premise.It might be a necessity , but not a RIGHT
As far as I know Gun ownership is a right anywhere in Canada as long as you haven't done something to forfeit that right, which would likely be confined to breaking a law, or be of unsound mind. There is nothing magic about guns, they have definite purposes and are perfectly safe if properly used following the manufacturer's instructions and common sense.
If you are going to post anything at all post something sensible. If you are given a choice it's a right.