Gun Control is Completely Useless.

bluebyrd35

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I gave you a greeny for effort:lol:
I am truly glad that years of spinal stenosis, two surgeries, ongoing sciatica and disc issues have not affected my frontal lobes. Sorry for you. Oh wait, you got me acting like i'm looking for sympathy now after i swore i would never do that, seems it's also affecting my frontal lobes:-( You really are good.......best i recant, give up my guns, and join shootaholics anon.

I really,really hate losing a post. I don't ask anyone to give up their guns, just to register them. No permit for carrying a concealed weapon without a very good reason. Keep the rules for locking up all firearms. Above all find a way to stop the flow of illegal firearms into the country.

If four policemen, could not react in time to prevent their own deaths at the hands of a single armed man, what chance does a non-trained person have, even if they are carrying a concealed weapon?? I enjoy feeling safe enough to walk where I choose.

The election is the only poll that counts. The elimination of the LGR was a primary election plank of the Conservatives for years. 40% voted Conservative. Obviously, that in itself puts the lie to your claim of "massive" support for the registry.....then add to that 40% the untold numbers of NDP voters that depended on their elected NDP MPs to oppose the registry (two of whom actually did vote with the gov't), and you begin to understand that your claim is not only false, but ridiculous.

I think you had best stick to the issue of climate change, where stupidity is the conventional wisdom. You will be a guru, I predict.

If you think the right to bear arms has never been an individual right, then your reading skills are as poor as your math.

The phrase "the right of the people" is not arguable by anyone with an IQ higher than their hatsize. It appears in the US Bill of Rights.

The right is listed after the preamble states its purpose of "vindicating and asserting their ancient rights and liberties" in the English Bill of Rights.

You are making a damned fool of yourself.

Good grief, What does the US's right to bear arms got to do with Canada?? Many Canadians do not wish to go down the road the US has taken. We do not want a child shot by accident almost daily. Many of us were quite content with the laws re firearms. We just wish the government did more about plugging the illegal arms coming into this country.
 

taxslave

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I really,really hate losing a post. I don't ask anyone to give up their guns, just to register them. No permit for carrying a concealed weapon without a very good reason. Keep the rules for locking up all firearms. Above all find a way to stop the flow of illegal firearms into the country.

If four policemen, could not react in time to prevent their own deaths at the hands of a single armed man, what chance does a non-trained person have, even if they are carrying a concealed weapon?? I enjoy feeling safe enough to walk where I choose.

So how is getting the criminals to register their prohibited automatic hand guns going for you? When you get that all sorted out come talk to the law abiding owners of hunting rifles.
Then there is the not so small issue of trusting the government with that information. Years ago the gullible honest gun owners registered their automatic rifles as requested. Then once they were mostly all registered the government changed the law making these objects of private property prohibited and seized them without compensation because they knew who had automatics and where they lived. We are NOT about to get fooled again.
 

bluebyrd35

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So how is getting the criminals to register their prohibited automatic hand guns going for you? When you get that all sorted out come talk to the law abiding owners of hunting rifles.
Then there is the not so small issue of trusting the government with that information. Years ago the gullible honest gun owners registered their automatic rifles as requested. Then once they were mostly all registered the government changed the law making these objects of private property prohibited and seized them without compensation because they knew who had automatics and where they lived. We are NOT about to get fooled again.

So, in your world, it seems, you would arm everyone with those prohibited automatic handguns???? As for not trusting the government I'll bet you voted for this government!! I don't trust it either. However, this present government seems to be in favour of owning automatic rifles, and doing away with the registry. I can find nothing regarding confistication of automatic handguns in Canada.

It strikes me as odd that anyone would suspect the present government of possibly confisticating legal registered firearms when it is so busy trying to throw monkey wrenches into an international treaty governing global arms trade.


Oceania,Europe,Asia,Americas,Africa,Canada
Pandering to Gun Lobby, Canada Promotes Arms Trade Treaty Loopholes
18 July 2012
Embassy Magazine (Canada)
The Harper government is trying to fudge efforts to craft an effective international treaty to govern the global arms trade by adding oversight "loopholes" into the agreement, the NDP says. NDP trade critic Don Davies says the Tories are trying to water down the global push for a United Nations arms trade treaty to score domestic political points with red-meat conservatives. He and other treaty supporters point to the Harper government's desire not to include the... (GunPolicy.org)
Read More: Embassy Magazine (Canada).

I love the term "red-meat conservatives" rather apt, I would say.
 

Colpy

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I really,really hate losing a post. I don't ask anyone to give up their guns, just to register them. No permit for carrying a concealed weapon without a very good reason. Keep the rules for locking up all firearms. Above all find a way to stop the flow of illegal firearms into the country.

If four policemen, could not react in time to prevent their own deaths at the hands of a single armed man, what chance does a non-trained person have, even if they are carrying a concealed weapon?? I enjoy feeling safe enough to walk where I choose.



Good grief, What does the US's right to bear arms got to do with Canada?? Many Canadians do not wish to go down the road the US has taken. We do not want a child shot by accident almost daily. Many of us were quite content with the laws re firearms. We just wish the government did more about plugging the illegal arms coming into this country.

The OP was a comparison of US and Canadian gun control..........
 

JLM

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So, in your world, it seems, you would arm everyone with those prohibited automatic handguns???? As for not trusting the government I'll bet you voted for this government!! I don't trust it either. However, this present government seems to be in favour of owning automatic rifles, and doing away with the registry. I can find nothing regarding confistication of automatic handguns in Canada.

It strikes me as odd that anyone would suspect the present government of possibly confisticating legal registered firearms when it is so busy trying to throw monkey wrenches into an international treaty governing global arms trade.


Oceania,Europe,Asia,Americas,Africa,Canada
Pandering to Gun Lobby, Canada Promotes Arms Trade Treaty Loopholes
18 July 2012
Embassy Magazine (Canada)
The Harper government is trying to fudge efforts to craft an effective international treaty to govern the global arms trade by adding oversight "loopholes" into the agreement, the NDP says. NDP trade critic Don Davies says the Tories are trying to water down the global push for a United Nations arms trade treaty to score domestic political points with red-meat conservatives. He and other treaty supporters point to the Harper government's desire not to include the... (GunPolicy.org)
Read More: Embassy Magazine (Canada).

I love the term "red-meat conservatives" rather apt, I would say.

You'd do better discussing other subjects Bluebyrd- you are obviously not interested in guns and you know very little about guns, so they are not part of your life. Why belabour the issue? It's better left in Colpy's domain- he knows what he's talking about! :smile:
 

gerryh

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You'd do better discussing other subjects Bluebyrd- you are obviously not interested in guns and you know very little about guns, so they are not part of your life. Why belabour the issue? It's better left in Colpy's domain- he knows what he's talking about! :smile:


Bull fu cking shyte. Colpy LOVES guns.In Colpy's world guns and gun supporters are good. The rest are useless liberal panzy's.
 

JLM

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Bull fu cking shyte. Colpy LOVES guns.In Colpy's world guns and gun supporters are good. The rest are useless liberal panzy's.

Good afternoon, Ger! So what is it you are disagreeing with? Is the heat starting to get to you? :smile:
 

MapleDog

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On one side we have the pro gun who will say it is a right to get/carry a weapon,even if its an anti tank weapon "which no one needs"
On the other side we have the anti gun groups,who think not having guns will make it a peaceful world,guess they haven't heard of knives baseball bats etc.
 

JLM

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That she should shut up and leave this to Colpy.

You're half right, Gerry, she should definitely have the right to speak her piece, but she is just making herself look foolish. All she knows about the subject is that she hates guns & I think the message was conveyed on her first post.

I don't always agree with your point of view, or ideology, but it is your brutal honesty that separates you from the Usual Suspects.

Yeah, there is not a lot he is undecided about! :lol:

On one side we have the pro gun who will say it is a right to get/carry a weapon,even if its an anti tank weapon "which no one needs"
On the other side we have the anti gun groups,who think not having guns will make it a peaceful world,guess they haven't heard of knives baseball bats etc.

I think there is a happy medium, it's probably not a bad idea to pack one down East Hastings St. after dark, but I'd tend to leave it in the vehicle while shopping in Wallmart.
 

gerryh

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You're half right, Gerry, she should definitely have the right to speak her piece, but she is just making herself look foolish. All she knows about the subject is that she hates guns & I think the message was conveyed on her first post.


Really? Then, old man, you have a definite comprehension problem. Try rereading what she has posted.
 

JLM

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Really? Then, old man, you have a definite comprehension problem. Try rereading what she has posted.

I did, she wants law abiding people to register guns! :lol:
She compared # of gun dealers to # of McDonalds, absolutely irrelevant to my way of thinking.