Greatest Empire Ever

Socrates the Greek

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Yeah, Japan is and always has been very honorable and powerful.

Last 23 years Japans economy has been in the tank....
They may have good knowllege of electronics, but that dosen't make them a huge Empire.
I think the topic here is Greatest Empire Ever.....


BOJ Keeps Interest Rate at 0.5%
Published: 7/15/2008 6:39:18 AM By: TradingEconomics.com, Bloomberg

The Bank of Japan cut its economic growth forecast, raised its inflation estimate and kept the benchmark interest rate at 0.5 percent, saying higher commodity prices are hurting the expansion.



The world's second-largest economy will grow 1.2 percent in the year ending March 31, slower than the 1.5 percent forecast on April 30, the central bank said in a statement in Tokyo. Consumer prices excluding fresh food will climb 1.8 percent, more than the 1.1 percent projected three months ago, it said.
Growth is ``slowing further'' because higher energy and raw-materials costs are discouraging businesses and consumers from spending, the bank said. ``Downside risks to the economy demand attention,'' it said, indicating the bank has no plans to resume a policy of gradually raising interest rates anytime soon.
In April, the central bank shelved a policy calling for higher borrowing costs. The benchmark rate, doubled in February 2007, is the lowest among major economies.
``Economic growth is slowing further, reflecting weaker growth in business fixed investment and private consumption against the backdrop of high energy and materials prices,'' the central bank said. Still, Governor Masaaki Shirakawa said the economy ``is not facing stagflation'' because growth will pick up and inflation will moderate.
Gross domestic product will expand 1.5 percent in the year starting April 1 and core consumer prices will rise 1.1 percent, the policy board forecast.
The biggest reason for Japan's economic slowdown is the worsening terms of trade spurred by higher import prices, the governor said. Commodities costs drained 1 percent from national income between 2000 and 2007, the Cabinet Office said last month. Japan imports almost all of its oil and 60 percent of its food.
Shirakawa said the central bank hasn't seen any signs of ``second-round effects of inflation,'' in which surging oil and commodity prices spread to other goods and services. The bank needs to watch whether secondary inflation will arise, he added.
The bank said it's ``necessary to be mindful of upside risks due to changes in the inflation expectations of households and the price-setting behavior of firms.''
Consumer prices excluding fresh fish, fruit and vegetables rose 1.5 percent in May from a year earlier, the fastest pace in a decade, and economists say the inflation measure will soon surpass 2 percent. The Bank of Japan regards core prices as stable when they are between zero and 2 percent.
Gains in core prices will ``gradually moderate'' after they become ``somewhat elevated in coming months'' because of oil and food, the central bank said. Should economic risks subside, Japan's expansion may become vulnerable to the side effects of keeping rates too low, it said.
 

BigLou

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Last 23 years Japans economy has been in the tank....
They may have good knowllege of electronics, but that dosen't make them a huge Empire.
I think the topic here is Greatest Empire Ever.....


BOJ Keeps Interest Rate at 0.5%
Published: 7/15/2008 6:39:18 AM By: TradingEconomics.com, Bloomberg

The Bank of Japan cut its economic growth forecast, raised its inflation estimate and kept the benchmark interest rate at 0.5 percent, saying higher commodity prices are hurting the expansion.



The world's second-largest economy will grow 1.2 percent in the year ending March 31, slower than the 1.5 percent forecast on April 30, the central bank said in a statement in Tokyo. Consumer prices excluding fresh food will climb 1.8 percent, more than the 1.1 percent projected three months ago, it said.
Growth is ``slowing further'' because higher energy and raw-materials costs are discouraging businesses and consumers from spending, the bank said. ``Downside risks to the economy demand attention,'' it said, indicating the bank has no plans to resume a policy of gradually raising interest rates anytime soon.
In April, the central bank shelved a policy calling for higher borrowing costs. The benchmark rate, doubled in February 2007, is the lowest among major economies.
``Economic growth is slowing further, reflecting weaker growth in business fixed investment and private consumption against the backdrop of high energy and materials prices,'' the central bank said. Still, Governor Masaaki Shirakawa said the economy ``is not facing stagflation'' because growth will pick up and inflation will moderate.
Gross domestic product will expand 1.5 percent in the year starting April 1 and core consumer prices will rise 1.1 percent, the policy board forecast.
The biggest reason for Japan's economic slowdown is the worsening terms of trade spurred by higher import prices, the governor said. Commodities costs drained 1 percent from national income between 2000 and 2007, the Cabinet Office said last month. Japan imports almost all of its oil and 60 percent of its food.
Shirakawa said the central bank hasn't seen any signs of ``second-round effects of inflation,'' in which surging oil and commodity prices spread to other goods and services. The bank needs to watch whether secondary inflation will arise, he added.
The bank said it's ``necessary to be mindful of upside risks due to changes in the inflation expectations of households and the price-setting behavior of firms.''
Consumer prices excluding fresh fish, fruit and vegetables rose 1.5 percent in May from a year earlier, the fastest pace in a decade, and economists say the inflation measure will soon surpass 2 percent. The Bank of Japan regards core prices as stable when they are between zero and 2 percent.
Gains in core prices will ``gradually moderate'' after they become ``somewhat elevated in coming months'' because of oil and food, the central bank said. Should economic risks subside, Japan's expansion may become vulnerable to the side effects of keeping rates too low, it said.
Oooh, look at big bad Socrates with the info!
 

Zzarchov

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Hi Zarchov, the Ancient Greeks offered the world knowledge on many subjects. Alexander the Grate as you may know was an ancient Greek born in Macedonia; he was the only Macedonian with a military ambition against some parts of the world. The rest of the Ancient Greeks were more interested in sharing their knowledge, than killing or exploiting others for their wealth.

They most certainly were interested in killing and exploiting others for their wealth. Alexander was the most successful, not the only one.

Many Greek leaders (they were a splintered group) lead campaigns of conquest before and after him in Sicily, Egypt, Arabia and India.

The Greeks took as much info as they gave, especially in India (where they had a pretty high rate of converting to Buddhaism).
 

Socrates the Greek

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They most certainly were interested in killing and exploiting others for their wealth. Alexander was the most successful, not the only one.

Many Greek leaders (they were a splintered group) lead campaigns of conquest before and after him in Sicily, Egypt, Arabia and India.

The Greeks took as much info as they gave, especially in India (where they had a pretty high rate of converting to Buddhaism).


Many Greek Leaders? name some........
 

Zzarchov

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Many Greek Leaders? name some........

How about Euthydemus for start who moved into South West China? There is a reason Hercules is the guardian of Shrines as far off as Japan. The greeks were very expansionistic.

His son Demetrius expanded into India.

Menander also drove deeper into India.
 

spqrroma

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i would have to go with the roman empire
because they have contributed more to our modern way of life then any other empire
thanks to them we have
concrete
running water-aqueducts
clothing manufacturing on a grand scale
they also had profected architecture
road construction
art
war
boat makeing
religion -a while back everyone in europe was roman catholic
look into the holy roman empire
there's alot more i can add but yea read a book
vikings where raiders they didnt leave a large stamp on the world like rome
after rome collapsed and the dark age was comeing to an end
europe looked to italy- being the most advanced country in europe to mimic
the word An emperor (from the Latin "imperator") the german kaisar-or the russian zar
all came from the roman caesar
 

gopher

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Greatest empire, ever!

New York Yankees baseball dynasty:


 

Nuggler

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""Alexander the Grate ""

:lol::lol:.....Who TF was Alexander the "Grate"


.......inspector of sidewalk catch basins?

......stole grates for their metal value?

.......Ol Alex musta been a strong'un. Them grates is heavy.

8O
 

ShaunHimself

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I thought it was common knowledge that Great Britain was the Greatest ever Empire.


Largest Empires in History by Total Land

1. British Empire - 36.6 million km² or 14.13 million mi² (under King George V in 1922)
2. Mongol Empire - 33.2 million km² or 12.82 million mi² (under Khublai Khan in 1268)
3. Russian Empire - 22.8 million km² or 8.8 million mi² (under Nicholas II in 1895)
4. Spanish Empire - 19 million km² or 7.33 million mi² (under King Charles III r. 1759-1788)
5. Umayyad Arab Empire - 13.2 million km² or 5.1 million mi² (under Hisham ibn Abd al-Malik r. 723-743)
6. French Empire - 12.5 million km² or 4.82 million mi² (under President Albert Lebrun in 1938)
7. Qing Empire - 12 million km² or 4.63 million mi² (under Emperor Qianlong)
8. Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million km² or 4.02 million mi²
9. American Empire - 10 million km² or 3.86 million mi² (1898-1934)
10. Rashidun Arab Empire - 9 million km² or 3.47 million mi² (under Caliph Uthman Ibn Affan r. 644-656)
11. Brazilian Empire - 8.1 million km² or 3.13 million mi²
12. Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million km² or 2.9 million mi² (under Darius the Great)
13. Japanese Empire - 7.4 million km² or 2.86 million mi² (during World War II)
14. Ming Empire - 6.5 million km² or 2.51 million mi² (under Emperor Jingtai in 1450)
15. Han Empire - 6 million km² or 2.32 million mi²
16. Roman Empire - 5.7 million km² or 2.2 million mi² (under Emperor Trajan)
17. Ottoman Empire - 5.5 million km² or 2.12 million mi² (under Mehmed IV in 1680)
18. Macedonian Empire - 5.4 million km² or 2.08 million mi² (under Alexander the Great)


Greatest Maritime Powers in History

1. British Empire
2. Spanish Empire
3. French Empire
4. Portuguese Empire
5. American Empire
6. Japanese Empire
7. Italian Empire
8. Dutch Empire
9. German Empire


Largest Modern Empires

1. British Empire
2. Russian Empire
3. Soviet Union (note: The term Soviet Empire referred to more lands than only those who were officially Soviet Union)
4. Spanish Empire
5. French Empire
6. Qing Empire (under Emperor Qianlong)
7. Portuguese Empire
8. American Empire
9. Brazilian Empire
10. Japanese Empire (during World War II)
11. Ottoman Empire (under Mehmed IV in 1680)


Largest Empires in History by Population

1. British Empire - 531.3 million (in 1938)
2. Qing Empire - 432 million (in 1912)
3. Soviet Union - 286,717,000 (in 1989)
4. Russian Empire - 176.4 million (in 1913)
5. Mughal Empire - 175 million (in 1700)
6. Ming Empire - 160 million (in 1600)
7. American Empire - 146.4 million (in 1942)
8. Japanese Empire - 134.8 million (in 1938)
9. French Empire - 112.9 million (in 1938)
10. Mongol Empire - 110 million (in the 13th century)
11. Dutch Empire - 80 million (1940)
12. Nazi German Empire - 75.4 million (in 1938)


Largest Empires in History By GDP size

2. British Empire - $683.3 billion (in 1938)
3. Nazi German Empire - $375.6 billion (in 1938)
4. Japanese Empire - $260.7 billion (in 1938)
5. Russian Empire - $257.7 billion (in 1913)
6. Qing Empire - $241.3 billion (GDP decline to 1912, immediately before its downfall)
7. French Empire - $234.1 billion (in 1938)
8. Italian Empire - $143.4 billion (in 1938)
9. Austro-Hungarian Empire - $100.5 billion (in 1913)
10. Mughal Empire - $90.8 billion (GDP decline in 1700)
11. Ottoman Empire - $26.4 billion (in 1913)
12. Portuguese Empire - $12.6 billion (in 1913)
 

ShaunHimself

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From about 1692, the Royal Navy has been the largest and most powerful navy in the world. The navy helped establish the United Kingdom as the dominant power of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. I'm also pretty sure that the United States Navy is actually Scottish.

Also found a map on Wikipedia of the British Empire and it's huge
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And that's not even including the British Antarctic Territory.

So there you have it. Largest, richest and most powerful empire to ever exist.
 

Machjo

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Maybe I'd choose the British Empire as the 'best', or should I say 'least worst', empire, thanks to Queen victoria. She put an end to slavery in the Empire and through other actions of hers helped to at least moderate some of the attrocities typically committed by imperial governments.
 

FiveParadox

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I think that the ‘Greatest Empire Ever’ would need to be the British Empire.

The empire has modernised, and today exists as a voluntary association of nations—the Realms of the Commonwealth. The territory covered by these sixteen nations, each of whom evolved out of colonies of the British Empire, is massive. The history that these sixteen nations share, and the unique constitutional monarchy that binds these nations together at the most fundamental constitutional level, is something that should be cherished.
  • Antigua and Barbuda
  • Commonwealth of Australia
  • Commonwealth of The Bahamas
  • Barbados
  • Belize
  • Canada
  • Grenada
  • Jamaica
  • New Zealand
  • Independent State of Papua New Guinea
  • Federation of Saint Christopher and Nevis
  • Saint Lucia
  • Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
  • Solomon Islands
  • Tuvalu
  • United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
 

Machjo

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I think that the ‘Greatest Empire Ever’ would need to be the British Empire.


The empire has modernised, and today exists as a voluntary association of nations—the Realms of the Commonwealth. The territory covered by these sixteen nations, each of whom evolved out of colonies of the British Empire, is massive. The history that these sixteen nations share, and the unique constitutional monarchy that binds these nations together at the most fundamental constitutional level, is something that should be cherished.
  • Antigua and Barbuda
  • Commonwealth of Australia
  • Commonwealth of The Bahamas
  • Barbados
  • Belize
  • Canada
  • Grenada
  • Jamaica
  • New Zealand
  • Independent State of Papua New Guinea
  • Federation of Saint Christopher and Nevis
  • Saint Lucia
  • Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
  • Solomon Islands
  • Tuvalu
  • United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

It's also threatened indigenous cultures throughout, and continues to profit from that legacy through the brain drain from these regions. As to the question in the OP, I'd change it from 'best' to 'least worst'. Yes I chose the British Empire, but not as the best, but as the least worst, empire.I've also read enough books to know that it wasn't all rosy in the British Empire either. Just read 'Decolonizing the Mind' by Ngugi wa Thiong'o. Strongly recommended.