Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’
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I don't think it is a conspiracy. I think the folks that support global warming believe in it.
But I also believe they are too emotionally invested in it now that no science that disputes global warming is acceptable. So they like to mock as you two just did.
But I also believe they are too emotionally invested in it now that no science that disputes global warming is acceptable. So they like to mock as you two just did.
Of course. There are people who get paid decent money to do absolutely nothing but deal with conspiracies. They aren't scientists nor are they govt yet they get to make the call on what they believe and can radically change someone's life based on their opinions.
Any idea who those people might be?
Do you believe that someone who calls a bell curve a "hockey stick" is really going to get to the bottom of things?
Ahh, moving goal posts now. That's not what you said. You said the purpose was to make corporations pay environmental groups. You said this was the one true goal.
You're no different on this subject than the Truthers you castigate.
Moving the goal posts? I did not call it a conspiracy, you folks did. But it IS about making big business pay. Yes you believe there is global warming and in addition you believe that big business and industrialized nations pay.
Except China, India, and Russia because they would pretty much laugh at the thought.
Of course he is no different. GW Truthers just haven't managed to piece together the ties that if media, govt, banking and industry can pull off a scam this big they can pull off something far less intricate as dropping 4 buildings.
Just wait until they find out that banks can make money out of thin air.
You said making them[corporations and industrialized nations] pay is the real goal. The real goal is not to make people pay. The goal is to reduce pollution. You're saying that the real goal is hidden under the public goal. That is a conspiracy.
I believe users should pay. I think that's fair isn't it?
No, you're saying that he is on my side. You don't know what my side is.
That's certainly what you'd like to make it.
Perhaps I should have said MAJOR goal instead of REAL goal as real in this case would mean only goal. So it is a major goal and HUGE goal to make major corporations give money to environmental groups...for whatever they wish to do with it.
Unless they are China, India, and Russia? Not really.
Have you bought your carbon credits yet?
Closer to yours than mine.
The underlying goal is to force corporations to pay...to make them neutral.
Then why the push to make them pay?
Because they aren't accounting on their balance sheets for something that has no value, and no cost? Because the real costs are imposed on others.
So users should pay?
How the reductions to pollution happen, is a policy decision. It's meant to address a goal.
Are you getting this? Holy crap smack...
You know denial is the first stage right? I know you don't like being called a conspiricist, it offends your sensibilities...tough luck dude. Maybe exercise some critical thought more often, like you do for Truthers.
So why are only some being asked to pay? I see you skirting that issue.
Why can't China pay? India? Russia?
Why aren't they being asked?
I know the answer.
What do you suggest? Investing in Al Gores Carbon Credit Company?
Again...have you bought yours yet?
Blahblahblah...yadayadayada
Can't stand the heat Tonnington?
Those three huge nations combined don't produce as much GHGs as the US alone.
The US is the driving force behind exploiting the labour resources of India and China while buying resources from Russia just so you can buy big heaps of cheap toxic plastic and electronic crap to drive an economy based on consumption.
Since the people of Russia, China and India are free to and capable of buying these goods what right do you have in stopping them or even blaming them for anything?
Have ever been to Russia, China or India where the vast majority travel by efficient rapidly growing and advncing rail systems? When was the last time you rode on an LRT or took a train for a holiday?
Do you know about some of the massive new rail corridors built or being built in Asia right now?
It is a shame I have to travel to far away places to experience efficient technologies in use that we designed 3 or 4 decades ago.
You should travel sometime. There is a whole different world out there.
No, you never asked the question. I'm not a mind reader.
Indeed. Why not? Did you even read what I wrote? I said all users should pay. Smarten up.
You expect me to know? I'm not a consular official. Part of asking good questions is directing them to the right people. Smarten up.
I'm sure you believe that.
Nope. An easy to implement carbon tax, with corresponding reductions to income tax, capital gains, and other investment taxes. All user will pay, and those who clean up will pay less.
I don't intend to buy any. I don't believe in rip-offsets. I can see their point of view, but I don't share it.
Yes, that's about what you sound like.
Remove the tinfoil and join reality. It's not quite as blissful, but it has it's benefits.
Can't stand reality smack?
Are you sure?
So they shouldn't pay because people are buying what they produce?
I am not saying they should stop doing anything. I am just wondering why they are exempt.
I know why you give them an exemption...to save face. Why? They would tell you to stick it up your keister. You know it... I know it.
Nope...not those three.
I take the train into the city. When was the last time your savoir ever took anything but a limo or private jet to whine about supposed global warming?
Sure do!
France, Italy, Yugoslavia, Spain, Israel, Panama, Canada, and all over the US.
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