Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship

[Scott Free]

Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship


WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.


"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."


Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.


"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."


Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."


"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."


Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.


Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.


"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."


Obama's transition office did not respond immediately to Broun's remarks.



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lol, the commies are commin' the commies are commin'! :lol:

 

[Avro]

 

[karrie]

No matter who's in power, the other side of the political spectrum will be screaming about oppression. It's a never ending tug-o-war.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

These are the same nuts who called Obama a Marxist, a Socialist, a Communist, a Fascist, a terrorist, a Muslim, an illegal alien etc. during the campaign. None of that mud slinging, none of those attempts at character assassination, personal destruction worked.

Now the same yahoos are at it again. Talk radio, far right politicians are in full form. Their utterings have an entertainment value, nothing more.

 

[lone wolf]

Didn't we hear the same things about Bush?

 

[Ron in Regina]

These are the same nuts who called Obama a Marxist, a Socialist, a Communist, a Fascist, a terrorist, a Muslim, an illegal alien etc. during the campaign. None of that mud slinging, none of those attempts at character assassination, personal destruction worked.

Now the same yahoos are at it again. Talk radio, far right politicians are in full form. Their utterings have an entertainment value, nothing more.

So....the glass is half full and the silver lining thing...these Nuts are saying that Obama is versatile then?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Didn't we hear the same things about Bush?

I don’t think so, Democrats were too busy accusing Bush and the Supreme Court of stealing the election (their charges against Bush were unfounded, but their charges against the Supreme Court had some substance in them).

However, I don’t remember anybody calling Bush a Fascist or a terrorist.

 

[Scott Free]

However, I don’t remember anybody calling Bush a Fascist or a terrorist.

I certainly did but not on this forum.

 

[darkbeaver]

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Beware The Obama Hype

What "Change" In America Really Means By John Pilger

November 12, 2008 "Information Clearinghouse" - -My first visit to Texas was in 1968, on the fifth anniversary of the assassination of president John F Kennedy in Dallas. I drove south, following the line of telegraph poles to the small town of Midlothian, where I met Penn Jones Jr, editor of the Midlothian Mirror. Except for his drawl and fine boots, everything about Penn was the antithesis of the Texas stereotype. Having exposed the racists of the John Birch Society, his printing press had been repeatedly firebombed. Week after week, he painstakingly assembled evidence that all but demolished the official version of Kennedy's murder.

This was journalism as it had been before corporate journalism was invented, before the first schools of journalism were set up and a mythology of liberal neutrality was spun around those whose "professionalism" and "objectivity" carried an unspoken obligation to ensure that news and opinion were in tune with an establishment consensus, regardless of the truth. Journalists such as Penn Jones, independent of vested power, indefatigable and principled, often reflect ordinary American attitudes, which have seldom conformed to the stereotypes promoted by the corporate media on both sides of the Atlantic. Read American Dreams: Lost and Found by the masterly Studs Terkel, who died the other day, or scan the surveys that unerringly attribute enlightened views to a majority who believe that "government should care for those who cannot care for themselves" and are prepared to pay higher taxes for universal health care, who support nuclear disarmament and want their troops out of other people's countries.

Returning to Texas, I am struck again by those so unlike the redneck stereotype, in spite of the burden of a form of brainwashing placed on most Americans from a tender age: that theirs is the most superior society in the history of the world, and all means are justified, including the spilling of copious blood, in maintaining that superiority.

That is the subtext of Barack Obama's "oratory". He says he wants to build up US military power; and he threatens to ignite a new war in Pakistan, killing yet more brown-skinned people. That will bring tears, too. Unlike those on election night, these other tears will be unseen in Chicago and London. This is not to doubt the sincerity of much of the response to Obama's election, which happened not because of the unction that has passed for news reporting from America since 4 November (e.g. "liberal Americans smiled and the world smiled with them") but for the same reasons that millions of angry emails were sent to the White House and Congress when the "bailout" of Wall Street was revealed, and because most Americans are fed up with war.

Two years ago, this anti-war vote installed a Democratic majority in Congress, only to watch the Democrats hand over more money to George W Bush to continue his blood fest. For his part, the "anti-war" Obama never said the illegal invasion of Iraq was wrong, merely that it was a "mistake". Thereafter, he voted in to give Bush what he wanted. Yes, Obama's election is historic, a symbol of great change to many. But it is equally true that the American elite has grown adept at using the black middle and management class. The courageous Martin Luther King recognised this when he linked the human rights of black Americans with the human rights of the Vietnamese, then being slaughtered by a liberal Democratic administration. And he was shot. In striking contrast, a young black major serving in Vietnam, Colin Powell, was used to "investigate" and whitewash the infamous My Lai massacre. As Bush's secretary of state, Powell was often described as a "liberal" and was considered ideal to lie to the United Nations about Iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction. Condaleezza Rice, lauded as a successful black woman, has worked assiduously to deny the Palestinians justice.

Obama's first two crucial appointments represent a denial of the wishes of his supporters on the principal issues on which they voted. The vice-president-elect, Joe Biden, is a proud warmaker and Zionist. Rahm Emanuel, who is to be the all-important White House chief of staff, is a fervent "neoliberal" devoted to the doctrine that led to the present economic collapse and impoverishment of millions. He is also an "Israel-first" Zionist who served in the Israeli army and opposes meaningful justice for the Palestinians – an injustice that is at the root of Muslim people's loathing of the United States and the spawning of jihadism.

No serious scrutiny of this is permitted within the histrionics of Obamamania, just as no serious scrutiny of the betrayal of the majority of black South Africans was permitted within the "Mandela moment". This is especially marked in Britain, where America's divine right to "lead" is important to elite British interests. The once respected Observer newspaper, which supported Bush's war in Iraq, echoing his fabricated evidence, now announces, without evidence, that "America has restored the world's faith in its ideals". These "ideals", which Obama will swear to uphold, have overseen, since 1945, the destruction of 50 governments, including democracies, and 30 popular liberation movements, causing the deaths of countless men, women and children.

None of this was uttered during the election campaign. Had it been allowed, there might even have been recognition that liberalism as a narrow, supremely arrogant, war-making ideology is destroying liberalism as a reality. Prior to Blair's criminal warmaking, ideology was denied by him and his media mystics. "Blair can be a beacon to the world," declared the Guardian in 1997. "[He is] turning leadership into an art form."

Today, merely insert "Obama". As for historic moments, there is another that has gone unreported but is well under way – liberal democracy's shift towards a corporate dictatorship, managed by people regardless of ethnicity, with the media as its clichéd façade. "True democracy," wrote Penn Jones Jr, the Texas truth-teller, "is constant vigilance: not thinking the way you're meant to think and keeping your eyes wide open at all times."

ITV - John Pilger - Home

 

[EagleSmack]

Didn't we hear the same things about Bush?

I was thinking the same thing. We have been hearing comparisons of Bush to Hitler for quite some time. So now the shoe is on the other foot. They better get tough skin...the Dems are on the other side of the ball now.

 

[EagleSmack]

I certainly did but not on this forum.

There were quite a few calling Bush a Nazi, Facist, Hitler...worse than Hitler right here on CanCon.

 

[darkbeaver]

There were quite a few calling Bush a Nazi, Facist, Hitler...worse than Hitler right here on CanCon.

Who?:smile:

 

[EagleSmack]

Who?:smile:

^Here is one folks! ^

 

[Praxius]

Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship


WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

Sez the guy from Georgia of all places. :roll:

Maybe he's just afraid that the new administration won't back his country's invasions and take over of lands that they think "Is Rightfully Theirs" ~ Sound familiar? (See WWII)

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

Whoopie do.... the US's National Guard, who are supposed to be doing this job in the first place, are now being sent over to Iraq to fill in the gaps.... so where are the troops when you really need them in an emergency back home?

The difference between Hitler's force and the proposed one above, is based around the character and actions of the person planning the force. Hitler made his force to oppress, beat the crap out of and intimidate voters and rival parties so that he could get into power...... Obama's already in power, so his reasons can't be those reasons. And Hitler used his forces to maintain order and control over the population of Germany in an oppressive manner..... I haven't seen Obama mention let alone act in any similar fashion that would connect with the above mentality in which he would like to stomp down resistence..... on the contrary, he's been more connected and more open to public opinion thus far, then I have ever seen in any other US President/President-to-Be.

This comparison is a long stretch.... from a guy in a nation which has just recently attempted to act like Nazi Germany by taking lands in which they felt were theirs and shelling/killing civilians along the way (Which was one of the many reasons why Russia stepped in and put the ever-lovin boots to Georgia)

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.

Jesus, does this guy have any clue on what nation he's talking about? Having a "Civilian Security Force" can mean multiple things, such as a few that I can think of that would fall along the lines of what the US Constitution supports, which in turn supports the ownership of firearms as a right........ which even Obama can't change even if he really wanted to, because that too is in the US Constitution.

So there is no chance in hell Obama could ban gun ownership in the US, even if he had this new force to "Force" the decision onto the US Population..... there would most likely be a revolution, and that force would have to then fight it out with armed civilians, as well as any divisions from the regular forces........

Among many other situations that could arise, pulling a stunt like outright banning of firearms would cause more mess then anyone has probably thought of yet.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.

Does that mean an outright ban? No.... fk people are dumb...... it doesn't have to be a black and white situation. I personally don't think firearms in Canada should be banned out-right, yet I believe some better regulation/control over who can get what, based on their responsibility, education, experience, reasons for wanting one, etc. would be a good idea for starters.

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."

Of course you're comparing him to Hitler you moron.... how many times has he referenced Hitler and Nazi Germany thus far?

Oh, but he's not comparing him to Hitler...... :roll: someone get me a shovel to crack accross his skull to knock some sense into him.... frig.

I find it pretty funny that while Bush was funding and training Georgian forces to take over lands that have been pretty peaceful for years, they all seem all cuddily to Bush and his administration.... an administration who has done a hell of a lot more to be related to Nazi Germany in the last 8 years..... but as soon as Obama wins the election, they fear that their corrupt funding will go down the tubes and they may actually have to start doing things on their own as they should be..... so out come the Nazi comparisons..... Before Obama has officially taken office and made any real decisions.

What a crock of shat'noir.

Hell, at least I waited until Bush took power and screwed up before I started spewing my arguments against that evil fk'er. This guy sorta premature-ejaculated all over this "Theory" he has.

 

[Praxius]

There were quite a few calling Bush a Nazi, Facist, Hitler...worse than Hitler right here on CanCon.

*Raises Hand*

That would have been me, and I still think he's a Hitler-Nazi Douchebag Wanna-Be.

Before I even fathom about pointing the Nz-Finger at Obama, he first has to actually do something to warrent it.

Hell if we're all going to hold everything a candidate in the US election said, what about McCain talking about bombing/nuking Iran back to the stone ages?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

[EagleSmack]

*Raises Hand*

That would have been me, and I still think he's a Hitler-Nazi Douchebag Wanna-Be.

Before I even fathom about pointing the Nz-Finger at Obama, he first has to actually do something to warrent it.

Hell if we're all going to hold everything a candidate in the US election said, what about McCain talking about bombing/nuking Iran back to the stone ages?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Well what about his suggestion to create a new Civillian Security Force...just as strong as the military? Sounds sort of jack-bootish.

Edit: Oooops...sorry Prax...you already addressed this.

 

[Praxius]

Well what about his suggestion to create a new Civillian Security Force...just as strong as the military? Sounds sort of jack-bootish.

Edit: Oooops...sorry Prax...you already addressed this.

Yeah, to me it all depends on what kind of force he is actually planning and if it actually follows along the lines of "Civilian" or "Answer to Him"

I mean where the guy above says "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist." ~ How the hell does that make any sense, since he's going to be the Chief and Commander of the US Military, he already has a force that "answers to him."

His whole reasoning is flawed if you ask me..... all he's doing is trying to link a term Obama is thinking about making happen, and trying to relate it to what Hitler did......

..... Seriously, I have been trying to fit it into my head in a way that makes sense, but it's like putting a square block into a circle hole.

^ I guess it can be done, so long as you ignore the obvious.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

It is reasonable that conservatives are going to scream bloody murder, now that Obama is elected. According to Rush Limbaugh, when stock market went down two days in a row (after Obama was elected), that was Obama crash, conservatives are predicting that Dow will dip to 4000 by February. Of course, now that market rallied more than 400 points today, I assume according to Limbaugh, that is a Bush rally.

Conservatives are convinced that Obama is a terrorist, a Socialist, a Marxist, a Muslim and an illegal alien. In addition, they make the absurd claim that Obama is both a Communist and a Fascist at the same time (that is like saying that somebody is a Christian and also a Muslim).

They are blinded by their hatred of Obama, what is more they are convinced that most Americans share this hatred. Not even in their wildest dreams did they think that Obama will be elected. I happen to read the predictions they posted on the far right website Townhall. Most bloggers there thought that McCain would win, with 350 electoral votes.

Even when CNN, FOX etc, called Pennsylvania, Ohio for Obama, the conservative bloggers thought that was rubbish, that McCain was actually wining there.

The upshot of it is, conservatives are in denial big time. So it is natural to expect them to call Obama every name under the son. Many conservatives, especially the talk radio (or hate radio, as I call it) are apoplectic over Obama win. They cannot understand how this black Muslim, this illegal alien could have won, their only explanation is cheating, fraud on a massive scale.

But in a way, that is good for Obama. The over the top, hate filled sayings by the Georgia Congressman or the hate filled article posted here by Darkbeaver is going to make it that much more difficult for the Republicans to rebuild. After all, when one is blinded by hate, one cannot think rationally.


So all this hatred, this venom, this vitriol probably will work in favor of Obama (or Hussein Obama, as the far right routinely refers to him).

 

[Risus]

There were quite a few calling Bush a Nazi, Facist, Hitler...worse than Hitler right here on CanCon.

Thats cuz its true... :lol:

 

[scratch]

It is reasonable that conservatives are going to scream bloody murder, now that Obama is elected. According to Rush Limbaugh, when stock market went down two days in a row (after Obama was elected), that was Obama crash, conservatives are predicting that Dow will dip to 4000 by February. Of course, now that market rallied more than 400 points today, I assume according to Limbaugh, that is a Bush rally.

Conservatives are convinced that Obama is a terrorist, a Socialist, a Marxist, a Muslim and an illegal alien. In addition, they make the absurd claim that Obama is both a Communist and a Fascist at the same time (that is like saying that somebody is a Christian and also a Muslim).

They are blinded by their hatred of Obama, what is more they are convinced that most Americans share this hatred. Not even in their wildest dreams did they think that Obama will be elected. I happen to read the predictions they posted on the far right website Townhall. Most bloggers there thought that McCain would win, with 350 electoral votes.

Even when CNN, FOX etc, called Pennsylvania, Ohio for Obama, the conservative bloggers thought that was rubbish, that McCain was actually wining there.

The upshot of it is, conservatives are in denial big time. So it is natural to expect them to call Obama every name under the son. Many conservatives, especially the talk radio (or hate radio, as I call it) are apoplectic over Obama win. They cannot understand how this black Muslim, this illegal alien could have won, their only explanation is cheating, fraud on a massive scale.

But in a way, that is good for Obama. The over the top, hate filled sayings by the Georgia Congressman or the hate filled article posted here by Darkbeaver is going to make it that much more difficult for the Republicans to rebuild. After all, when one is blinded by hate, one cannot think rationally.


So all this hatred, this venom, this vitriol probably will work in favor of Obama (or Hussein Obama, as the far right routinely refers to him).

BO was just elected. Not inaugurated yet. Cut him some slack. See what he does in his first 100 days.