Fort McMurray under seige...

Cliffy

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Fer****ssake, Cliffy, you don't understand the law of karma. Here's a hint: karma operates between lives of the individual. You are applying some vague Western notion of natural justice, i.e., "what goes around comes around," and mislabeling it as karma.

Learn what words mean before you use them.


You ain't the first.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Do you drive a car. Is your PC/Mac made out of hemp? How are you powering your items?

Karma. Give me a break. You and Neil Young, both hypocrites.
 

gerryh

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In 1894 the importance of conserving natural resources was recognized and expressed in a report by the State Fish and Game Commissioner of North Dakota. The report cautioned that short-term thinking and narrow monetary motivations might lead to the destruction of the “last tree” and the “last fish”. The following passage shows thematic similarities to the quotation under investigation [LFND]:
Present needs and present gains was the rule of action—which seems to be a sort of transmitted quality which we in our now enlightened time have not wholly outgrown, for even now a few men can be found who seem willing to destroy the last tree, the last fish and the last game bird and animal, and leave nothing for posterity, if thereby some money can be made.

It is not my fault that those who think I am gleeful at the situation in Fort Mac do not understand the law of karma. I have said for decades the the piper will have to be paid sometime for the destruction of the Earth. I am just stating what I know to be fact. I do not wish harm to anybody. It is not my fault that people choose to ignore the inevitable. Bit if it makes you feel better about yourself to kill the messenger, have at er.



Hey Cliffy, you ignorant hypocritical piece of shyte. You do realize, that that fu cking computer that you are using is made from petrochemicals. Should we all be looking forward to "karma" fu cking you up the a$$?
 

Kreskin

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What do you guys and girls think the long term impact will be? If the jobs come back where will people stay? Will this actually be a shot in the arm, ie injection of insurance money for job creation?
 

bill barilko

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What do you guys and girls think the long term impact will be?
Much smaller city and much less arrogance.
If the jobs come back where will people stay?
They won't and there's no worry this is just what oil companies need to 'streamline' their operations
Will this actually be a shot in the arm, ie injection of insurance money for job creation?
No-oil prices will never again be that high not in the lifetime of anyone posting here and insurance is just a one time payout all those people need a steady income so look for fewer Filipinos working @ your local Timmy Ho's and a lot more sullen argumentative Albertans.
 

JLM

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What do you guys and girls think the long term impact will be? If the jobs come back where will people stay? Will this actually be a shot in the arm, ie injection of insurance money for job creation?


I think the impact will be mixed. There will no doubt be a long term cost to a lot of people as I doubt like hell if any insurance co. will repay 100% of what you lose- probably about 75 - 90% on a rough guess. A lot of trades people will benefit for a year or two. The lumber industry will get a shot in the arm. A few lawyers will likely benefit mainly to the detriment of the biggest losers. Unless you are bloody rich, it's probably not even worth trying to take on these insurance bastards. The general population will take a beating on future fire insurance premiums as the bastards try to recoup what they will have claimed to have lost due to this fire, just like after the Kelowna fire when fire insurance premiums sky rocketed as they did after the 2013 Alberta flooding. I doubt if Fort Mac will go anywhere and there is a silver lining to it all in that hot fires scorch the soil so badly that it will be 20 years before any real new growth happens, so it will be likely 50 years before Fort Mac has to worry about another major fire. For those who are familiar with the "big burn" on the Hope - Princeton, that area remained black for close to 20 years before much vegetation took hold. Other cities may pay attention to this and hopefully start cleaning up their interfaces.

Much smaller city and much less arrogance.


I'm not just sure what the arrogance is associated with Fort Mac. I think higher wages are the reality in isolated northern towns, whether or not there is justification for them, it's not for me to say. Will the insurance bastards assess the value of the burned homes in line with the actual labour costs in Fort Mac? I wouldn't bet my first born on it.
 
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spaminator

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Fort McMurray tweet won't cost Lethbridge man his job
By Bill Kaufmann, Calgary Sun
First posted: Thursday, May 05, 2016 05:50 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, May 05, 2016 08:38 PM EDT
The Lethbridge man villified for tweeting the Fort McMurray wildfires as climate change karma hasn’t burnt his employment status.
One-time NDP candidate Tom Moffatt’s tweet Wednesday on his private account sparked widespread public outrage and demands he be fired — heat the man’s employer, the Town of Taber has felt keenly, said the municipality’s Chief Administrative Officer Greg Birch.
“I’m getting emails and social media stuff saying that and with stronger words,” said Birch.
But he said a stern meeting with Moffatt, the town’s information technology manager, will suffice, adding the employee has a right to make statements outside of work hours, as long as they’re not inciting hatred.
“His tweet was made on his private time and equipment,” said Birch.
“I’m surprised so many people are making this into an issue.”
Dismissing Moffatt would be fraught with legal implications linked to the country’s charter of rights and freedoms, said Birch, who questioned whether attacks on him were a witch hunt.
And he admitted the town — which has distanced itself from the tweet — is grappling with the ethical limits and consequences of social media.
“I’m not sure if Albertans have reconciled how to work this out,” said Birch.
After making the tweet, Moffatt deleted it but it was screen captured and went viral, whipping up a wave of outrage that painted his comment offensive and hurtful.
He’s since apologized, saying fire evacuees “have my full support and sympathy” and told Postmedia on Wednesday that he meant “karmic” to describe his own failure to inform people enough about climate change.
He didn’t return calls for an interview Thursday, but postings on his Facebook page dated prior to the Fort McMurray wildfires express support for Canada’s resource industries.
“I can tell you that this is a valuable and necessary industry, and an industry to be proud of, when it is done right,” he wrote in an April 12 post.
Moffatt is also a volunteer on the board of the Lethbridge Public Library which issued a statement on its website insisting the tweet doesn’t reflect its views.
But as of Thursday, there was no word of him resigning or being dismissed from the board.
Fort McMurray tweet won't cost Lethbridge man his job | Canada | News | Toronto
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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What do you guys and girls think the long term impact will be? If the jobs come back where will people stay? Will this actually be a shot in the arm, ie injection of insurance money for job creation?

I would hope better fire breaks would be installed as a result. Clearly whatever was in place today was insufficient. As to what happens next, I think it kind of depends on how much of the city actually goes. From a purely technical perspective, I think a lot of city planners would drool at the slate of a clean slate to rebuild the way they wanted it correcting it from past mistakes.

I think the people will come back. This type of thing usually will drive a community together and increase their resolve to stay (IMO).
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Just talking to my buddy from Fort Mac, his grandmother lost her home..

Turns out they have a fairly large river and the officials didn't think the fire would get past it so there was no warning.. the fire jumped the river and a state of emergency was then put out.


Yes my dad said the same thing. The thinking was it would not jump the river (the Athabasca I believe -- a big river).

Sorry about your buddy's grandmothers home.
 

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You know, I was thinking about how we've been told for years by environmentalists that all of Northern Alberta was a wasteland of tailings lakes and stripped bare to the underlying oil sands, as far as the eye could see.


Yet, there seems to be a lot of trees burning right now. Where did all those trees come from? Wow, who would have thought all those eco-alarmists were exaggerating the 'devastation' caused by strip mining?
 

B00Mer

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You know, I was thinking about how we've been told for years by environmentalists that all of Northern Alberta was a wasteland of tailings lakes and stripped bare to the underlying oil sands, as far as the eye could see.


Yet, there seems to be a lot of trees burning right now. Where did all those trees come from? Wow, who would have thought all those eco-alarmists were exaggerating the 'devastation' caused by strip mining?

Where is Leonardo DiCaprio when you need him..

 

captain morgan

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Much smaller city and much less arrogance.

They won't and there's no worry this is just what oil companies need to 'streamline' their operations

No-oil prices will never again be that high not in the lifetime of anyone posting here and insurance is just a one time payout all those people need a steady income so look for fewer Filipinos working @ your local Timmy Ho's and a lot more sullen argumentative Albertans.

There's a good reason why you're role in life is to drive around your betters.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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You know, I was thinking about how we've been told for years by environmentalists that all of Northern Alberta was a wasteland of tailings lakes and stripped bare to the underlying oil sands, as far as the eye could see.


Yet, there seems to be a lot of trees burning right now. Where did all those trees come from? Wow, who would have thought all those eco-alarmists were exaggerating the 'devastation' caused by strip mining?

I find that difficult to believe. Say it ain't so.