Ford's fight against the carbon tax is DOOMED

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Stick to selling crack, Drug Fraud.


Doug Ford's fight against a federal carbon tax likely doomed, experts say

If Ontario PC leader Doug Ford wins the election and sues the federal government to prevent carbon pricing, he would likely lose, say constitutional and environmental law experts.

The Progressive Conservative leader promised during the June 7 election campaign to repeal the province’s cap and trade program and has said he would fight the federal government’s carbon pricing plan.

“We’ll do whatever it takes to make sure our businesses are competitive,” he said in February. “The prime minister’s hurting businesses in this country by giving them an unnecessary tax.”

The federal Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act provides minimum federal standards for taxing pollution and fossil fuels, and allows provinces or territories to implement their own plans if they meet the standard. If the jurisdiction has no plan in place, or if their plans don't meet the minimum standards, the federal government’s “backstop” plan would be imposed on them.

If the provinces create their own price on carbon, it must meet or exceed the federal government’s “floor price” — starting at $10 per tonne this year and increasing by $10 each year to $50 per tonne by 2022.

Even before the legislation has been passed, Saskatchewan said it would fight the tax in court, and Manitoba threatened to do the same.

Lawyer predicts top court would uphold federal jurisdiction over carbon pricing

Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe launched a constitutional reference case in the provincial Court of Appeal in late April. It will mark the first time a Canadian court has addressed the question of who has jurisdiction to regulate climate change.

An independent legal opinion by Winnipeg lawyer Bryan Schwartz for the Manitoba government in October indicated how that could go. Schwartz wrote that there was a “strong likelihood” that the Supreme Court of Canada would ultimately uphold the carbon pricing plan, probably on the basis of federal taxation powers.

Schwartz also wrote that the backstop nature of the plan was unlikely to render it unconstitutional because the court would “probably see the space given to the provinces to craft their own means of compliance as an exercise of ‘cooperative federalism.’”

Regardless of the legal opinion, Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister said he would take the federal government to court if it imposed the backstop plan on the province, which has proposed a flat rate of $25 per tonne – an amount that would only be compliant with the federal plan until 2020.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/20...-federal-carbon-tax-likely-doomed-experts-say
 

White_Unifier

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We should impose a 1/3 tariff on Canadian exports of non-renewable resources. Make the US consumer pay the carbon tax too.
 

DaSleeper

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National Observer.....Progressive rag
 
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Danbones

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As far as global tyrants go, real nazis like the carbon tax...so do the unfake commies.
;)
Only common sense people who are going by the provable facts hate the damned idjit thing.
(That goes for its adherents too...must be the glue they use)
 

petros

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They do in the form of Royalties and the Carbon tax is being transferred on to the consumer

June 27, 2014
THE CRA CLARIFIES THE REQUIREMENT FOR CROWN, OR CROWN-OWNED CORPORATIONS TO FILE T2’S.
In 2014-0521541I7, the CRA discussed previously inconsistent administrative positions they had taken regarding the requirement for Crown or Crown-owned corporations to file T2’s, and responded to an inquiry as to whether this exemption extended to wholly-owned subsidiaries of corporations owned by the Crown.

The CRA discussed a discrepancy between their webpage “Corporation Income tax Return”, which stated that Crown corporations were exempt from filing T2 returns, and the T2 Guide, which stated that provincial Crown corporations were exempt. The CRA noted that subsection 27(2) excludes paragraphs 149(1)(d) to (d.4) (the tax-exemption provisions for corporations owned by the Crown in various ways) from applying to the prescribed federal Crown corporations enumerated in regulation 7100.

The CRA did not comment as to how sections 27 and 149 affected their administrative positions on filing, and ultimately, the CRA simply answered “No. However, the requirement to file can be waived” regarding the exception to filing a T2 return, and “Unable to comment” regarding the wholly-owned subsidiaries.

I see subterfuge.
 

White_Unifier

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Sales would be through the roof!

I don't follow. If Canada imposes a 1/3 tax on exports of its nonrenewable resources to the US, would sales not decline or, at most, remain the same as the cost of gas increases in the US?

I grant that Americans need fuel so even if the price way up, consumption would decline only somewhat, but I don't see why it would increase.
 

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That's because you are a pedantic jackass who wouldn't understand a sarcastic comment if it bit him in the bippy
 

Danbones

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Hey play fair!..we can insult you...It's only natural...
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but you can't insult anybody back!
 

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All he has to do is repeal the cap-and-give-money-to-California program we are on, impose a 1c/l carbon tax and reduce the provincial gas tax by the same 1c. The feds can't do anything since they have done something.
 

petros

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So does this mean that Trans Mountain doesn't have to pay Income or Carbon Tax?
Bingo!

It means that we subsidize fossil fuels to the tune of $4.5 BILLION dollars.

petros loves gubmint money.
Capital Cost Allowances are not subsidies. You yourself called them "tax incentives" when used for "green" projects.

In fact you even linked a CCA from your ecofascist website that called it an oil subsidy even though the same CCA applies to green energy but O&G was phased out 6 years ago.

Want to see it again? Probably not but I will post your ignorance anyway.

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...ax-credit/atlantic-investment-tax-credit.html

Atlantic investment tax credit
The Atlantic Investment Tax Credit is based on specified percentages available for certain investments in new buildings, and new machinery and equipment used in the Atlantic Canada and Atlantic Region.

Eligible investments
As of March 29, 2012, this credit supports investments in qualified property for use in the following sectors:

farming
fishing
logging
manufacturing and processing
storing grain
harvesting peat
prescribed new energy generation and conservation property
the production or processing of electrical energy or steam in certain areas
Currently, this credit also supports some investments in qualified resource property for use in the oil and gas, and mining sector in the Atlantic Region. Starting on March 29, 2012, Atlantic Investment Tax Credits for use in oil and gas, and mining activities will be phased out based on specified percentages over a four-year period. A transitional relief rate will be provided in recognition of the long timelines involved in some oil and gas, and mining projects.

The credit for qualified property acquired for use in other activities will still be available.

Specified percentages
Total investments and expenditures in newly acquired assets are multiplied by a specified percentage to calculate the refundable credits for the current year.

Investments in newly acquired qualified property that will be used mainly in Atlantic Canada and Atlantic Region are calculated using a specified percentage of 10%.

Investments in newly acquired qualified resource property that will be used mainly in Atlantic Canada are calculated using a specified percentage based on when they were acquired.

If the qualified resource property was acquired:

after 2013, and before 2016, the specified percentage is 5%
after 2015, the specified percentage is 0%
after 2013, before 2017 and is eligible for the transitional relief rate, the specified percentage is 10%
Definitions
Qualified property
For the purposes of the Atlantic Investment Tax Credit, this term means a category of new assets acquired primarily for use in the Atlantic Canada and Atlantic Region that are mainly used for farming or fishing, logging, manufacturing and processing, storing grain, or harvesting peat.

Property used mainly in Atlantic Canada and Atlantic Region for oil and gas, and mining activities is considered qualified property only if acquired by the taxpayer before March 29, 2012. Qualified property includes new buildings, and new machinery and new equipment (prescribed in Income Tax Regulation 4600), and if acquired by the taxpayer after March 28, 2012, new energy generation and conservation property (prescribed in Income Tax Regulation 4600). Qualified property can also be used primarily to produce or process electrical energy or steam in a prescribed area (as described in Income Tax Regulation 4610).

Qualified resource property
For the purpose of the Atlantic Investment Tax Credit, this term means a category of new property acquired primarily for use in the Atlantic Canada and Atlantic Region that is used primarily for oil and gas, and mining activities, if acquired by the taxpayer after March 28, 2012, and before January 1, 2016. This category of investments will be phased out of the Atlantic Investment Tax Credit based on specified percentages and a transitional relief rate. Qualified resource property includes new buildings, and new machinery and equipment (prescribed in Income Tax Regulation 4600).

Transitional relief rate
A transitional relief rate of 10% may apply to qualified resource property acquired after 2013 and before 2017, if the property is acquired under a written agreement entered into before March 29, 2012, or the property is acquired as part of a phase of a project where the construction or the engineering and design work for the construction started before March 29, 2012. For more information on qualified resource property, see subsection 127(9) of the Income Tax Act.

Phase
A "phase" of a project means a discrete expansion in the extraction, processing or production capacity of the project of a taxpayer beyond a capacity level that was attained before March 29, 2012. The taxpayer must also demonstrate that the intention to expand the project existed immediately before that date.

Atlantic Canada and Atlantic Region
For the purposes of the Atlantic Investment Tax Credit these expressions include the Gaspé Peninsula and the provinces of Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick, as well as their respective offshore regions (prescribed in Income Tax Regulation 4609).

Gaspé Peninsula
For the purposes of the Atlantic Investment Tax Credit this expression means that portion of the Gaspé region of the province of Quebec that extends to the western border of Kamouraska County and includes the Magdalen Islands (prescribed in subsection 127(9) of the Income Tax Act).

Forms and publications
Form T2038(IND), Investment Tax Credit (Individuals)
Schedule T2SCH31 Investment Tax Credit - Corporations (2017 and later taxation years)
Information Circular IC78-4R3, Investment Tax Credit Rates and its Special Release
Related links
Line 454 - Refund of investment tax credit
General income tax and benefit package
Government partners
Income Tax Act
Income Tax Regulations

I'd tell you to page your nurse but you live in a dieing province that had to lay off healthcare workers to balance budgets and you obviously need an RPN.
 

petros

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No subsidies just CCAs. Read what you link to sometime and ask questions if you don't understand big acronyms like CCA.

For somebody only 6 years younger than I am you sure are dumb as a stump

Are you going to dress up in your brother inlaw's uniform and yourself a fire fighter too?