Flu is not the biggest danger ...... It's the vaccine

L Gilbert

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ummmm yes they do actually, the UN global treaty banning the use of mercury exempts vaccines

I'll let you sort it out ;-)

vaccines exempt from mercury ban - Dogpile Web Search

and while you're sorting it out mate, feel free to get any of these..........
INFORMED CHOICE - Cocktail

you may find this of interest too....altho' I doubt it........
Vaccine Dangers (from http://educate-yourself.org)
Your doubts were right. It isn't interesting. As I provided the caluclations to you before showing that the amount of mercury in a can of tuna is about equivalent to 400 doses of vaccine.
How many cans of tuna do people eat in their lifetimes on average? How many vaccines to they get in their lifetimes on average?
Rant on, will you. It's hilarious.
 

L Gilbert

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How many inject cans of tuna directly into their bloodstream?
None. Pretty much everything that ends up in your stomach ends up being absorbed into your intestine and then into in your bloodstream, though.
Didn't anyone ever explain digestion to you?

Uhuh. How come this says another dude created AIDS if this Hilleman says he did it? Robert Gallo: The Man That Created AIDS - YouTube
And how come these people interviewing the guy don't seem to take Hilleman seriously? They're all laughing about everything he says.
Meh, I have more things to concern myself with than some crackpot claims in a youtube video.
 

darkbeaver

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None. Pretty much everything that ends up in your stomach ends up being absorbed into your intestine and then into in your bloodstream, though.
Didn't anyone ever explain digestion to you?
Not like that no. I believe the rendition I heard had some screens and filters and some enzymes and some endocannibinoids and a lot of other stuff before it was introduced to the blood plumbing persay, eh. I like your esplanation though and so will my chickens. They usually get treats when they have to listen, what do I get from reading your gut wrenching idea? How for instance would a marble or a coin be introduced into the bloodstream or a fork or a sword. How can I take you seriously? You are not a doctor?

How many inject vaccines directly into the bloodstream? None.

Do I have to harass you for the real story?
 

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Do I have to harass you for the real story?

I already gave you the real story. No vaccine is injected into the blood stream, and just as with the digestive system, material that is injected in vaccines is also broken down by various bodily functions and excreted.
 

darkbeaver

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I already gave you the real story. No vaccine is injected into the blood stream, and just as with the digestive system, material that is injected in vaccines is also broken down by various bodily functions and excreted.

Hey the alcohol not killing bacteria but levitating it away from the skin was free education for me. Tanks. I thought the bloodstream was the target of the needle, so you say it ain't, is it just squirted into the meat then?
 

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Not like that no. I believe the rendition I heard had some screens and filters and some enzymes and some endocannibinoids and a lot of other stuff before it was introduced to the blood plumbing persay, eh. I like your esplanation though and so will my chickens. They usually get treats when they have to listen, what do I get from reading your gut wrenching idea? How for instance would a marble or a coin be introduced into the bloodstream or a fork or a sword. How can I take you seriously? You are not a doctor?



Do I have to harass you for the real story?
Not that I expect you to understand or even accept the info, but here anyway:

Human Body Digestive System Organs, How It Works, and More

Chemical forms of mercury and selenium in f... [Chem Res Toxicol. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI
 

darkbeaver

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Throw darts at them. The one that ducks instead of analyzing the dart and your motives, etc. is the one to believe.

So you torture them till they spill the beans eh. I live in a rural area and we don't have access to luxuries like that. We have to depend on reason and probabilities. That means, ah never mind
 

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One of the latest technologies being employed in the production of new vaccines involves the use of outer membrane vesicles (OMVs), a type of pathogenic bacteria that mimics the phospholipids naturally found in the human body, as customizable vaccine adjuvants. But vaccines that utilize this untested technology, which include vaccines for tetanus, human papillomavirus (HPV), and influenza, are now being linked to causing a potentially deadly autoimmune disease known as antiphospholipid syndrome (APS).

HPV, tetanus vaccines causes deadly new autoimmune disease known as antiphospholipid syndrome
 

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Oh more rubbish. First of all, outer membrane vesicles aren't a type of pathogenic bacteria. They aren't even a type of bacteria. They are vesicles...which the cells in our body also have. Some gram negative bacteria have outer membrane vesicles associated with virulence factors, which is what makes the proteins attractive as a platform.

The article also calls antiphospholipid syndrome part of a wider class of vaccine induced health conditions, which is pure fantasy. People who develop APS have risk factors including gender, ethnicity, and certain genetic markers.

Natural News is crap, not good for your brain.
 

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One of the latest technologies being employed in the production of new vaccines involves the use of outer membrane vesicles (OMVs), a type of pathogenic bacteria that mimics the phospholipids naturally found in the human body, as customizable vaccine adjuvants. But vaccines that utilize this untested technology, which include vaccines for tetanus, human papillomavirus (HPV), and influenza, are now being linked to causing a potentially deadly autoimmune disease known as antiphospholipid syndrome (APS).

HPV, tetanus vaccines causes deadly new autoimmune disease known as antiphospholipid syndrome


Imagine someone believing that and refusing to get a tetanus shot. Someone could die because you repeat such malarky. Do some research Stretch, it's all out there.
 

darkbeaver

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Modern medicine is the cheezeburger of science. Medicine is just exactly as crooked as banking. The patient is now just a goddamn unwitting consumer. Medicine was better a hundred years ago.
 

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So you torture them till they spill the beans eh. I live in a rural area and we don't have access to luxuries like that. We have to depend on reason and probabilities. That means, ah never mind
I guess you missed the part in purple font.

One of the latest technologies being employed in the production of new vaccines involves the use of outer membrane vesicles (OMVs), a type of pathogenic bacteria that mimics the phospholipids naturally found in the human body, as customizable vaccine adjuvants. But vaccines that utilize this untested technology, which include vaccines for tetanus, human papillomavirus (HPV), and influenza, are now being linked to causing a potentially deadly autoimmune disease known as antiphospholipid syndrome (APS).

HPV, tetanus vaccines causes deadly new autoimmune disease known as antiphospholipid syndrome
lol That Natural News outfit comes up with the funniest crap sometimes. (Key word there = "crap").

from biology online: "membrane vesicle

(Science: cell biology) Closed unilamellar shells formed from membranes either in physiological transport processes or else when membranes are mechanically disrupted. They form spontaneously when membrane is broken because the free ends of a lipid bilayer are highly unstable."

The treatment for the deadly "new" autoimmune disease? Anticoagulants.

If Natural News can't even get its facts straight, what is the use of taking it seriously?

Modern medicine is the cheezeburger of science. Medicine is just exactly as crooked as banking. The patient is now just a goddamn unwitting consumer.
Wrong. Science and medicine is just fine. It's the wackos in it that you refer to.
Medicine was better a hundred years ago.
Your phrenologist tell you that?
 

darkbeaver

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I guess you missed the part in purple font.

lol That Natural News outfit comes up with the funniest crap sometimes. (Key word there = "crap").

from biology online: "membrane vesicle

(Science: cell biology) Closed unilamellar shells formed from membranes either in physiological transport processes or else when membranes are mechanically disrupted. They form spontaneously when membrane is broken because the free ends of a lipid bilayer are highly unstable."

The treatment for the deadly "new" autoimmune disease? Anticoagulants.

If Natural News can't even get its facts straight, what is the use of taking it seriously?

Wrong. Science and medicine is just fine. It's the wackos in it that you refer to. Your phrenologist tell you that?

I will accept your expertise with respect to crap. I have read you for many years and you have established your credentials with me and the firm. We have no hesitation consulting you when faced with difficult complex crap issues. We know we get quality crap and nothing but quality crap.


This outburst of yours takes us back to a recent discussion had by you and I where you insisted, and correctly in my estimation, that science was a tool. Certainly it is not my intention to dispute that well known and applied analogy. However, you 'seem', and it may be confused by me, to be of the opinion that so called alternative media and science cannot be trusted to properly use screwdrivers or worse purposefully misuse screwdriver science in an dastardly effort to misinform the public. Of course I cannot in good conscience dispute that fact in any manner likely to be found bearing merit. Neverthelesss I will and do insist that any misuse must be judged as to it's scale of application and in respect of that consideration of scale I know you will agree that following time trusted laws and tradition the biggest block of dishonesty with respect to the nefarious utility of science must be seen to lie in the camp exercising the greatest deftness and expertise of intentional misuse of tools (science) afforded by the size and scope of available funds to do so. In that respect the establishment owns the podium, in all three medals bronze, silver and tungsten free gold.
A person would have to be very innocent indeed to attempt to sell the idea that what I have made plain above is in fact not fact.
More scientist recommend profit before profession. Any dentist will tell you that. Don't forget to brush.
 

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This is How Vaccine Injuries to African Children Are Covered Up


Millions of children across Africa have been included in meningitis vaccine trials, many without parental consent. VacTruth recently revealed this information, resulting in many agencies desperately trying to cover up this travesty and the sacking of two leading heads of state.
Shortly after VacTruth published the first of three articles covering the MenAfriVac vaccine tragedy in which dozens of children were paralyzed, in Gouro, Chad, in northern Africa, the prime minister of Chad, Emmanuel Nadingar, was relieved of his duties and replaced by the former chief of cabinet, Djimrangar Dadnadji. According to an excellent article by the human rights organization Ecoterra International, this abrupt change in leadership was ordered by Chad’s president Idris Déby, a patron of the anti-meningitis campaign. [1]
BIG NAMES, BIG MISTAKE

On January 13, 2013, VacTruth published the second of the three articles. By this time, Chadian authorities had reported that a total of 38 children who were suffering from adverse reactions to the vaccine had been evacuated to hospitals in N’Djamena, Chad’s capital. [2]
A few weeks later, VacTruth was informed that the health minister of Chad, Mamouth Nahor N’Gawara, had also been relieved of his duties and replaced by Dr. Mahamat Ahmat Djidda. [3]
So, why the sudden changes in leadership? It may have had something to do with the fact that VacTruth had reported the conflicting views from involved organizations on whether or not the MenAfriVac vaccine could be used outside of the usual controlled temperature chain (CTC) of 2 – 8 °C.
The organizations involved with the promotion of the vaccine had stated that MenAfriVac was a vaccine specifically designed to meet the needs of Africa’s meningitis belt, which stretches across sub-Saharan Africa. These organizations stated that the vaccine could be kept in a controlled temperature chain (CTC) at temperatures of up to 40°C for up to four days without the need for ice packs or refrigeration.
The organizations involved in the promotion of this information were the CDC, FDA, BMGF, PATH, MVP, WHO and UNICEF. (For meanings of these acronyms, please refer to key at the end of this article.)
YOU WON’T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED NEXT

Of course this information would have been fantastic news for Africa, except for one vital point: at the time we published our articles, Serum Institute of India, the manufacturer of the vaccine, was promoting conflicting information. They had stated on their website:
“MenAfriVac should be stored and transported between 2-8ºC. Protect from light. The diluent should be stored at 25°C. It is recommended to protect the reconstituted vaccine from direct sunlight. Do not exceed the expiry date stated on the external packaging.

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