Fed up with Islam Yet???

earth_as_one

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Colpy... you got to stop visiting these hate sites. Its bad for your brain.

BTW, I visited the website and the video doesn't play for me. But I found this story:
Muslims’ Riots in Burma Leave a Trail of Death and Devastation | FaithFreedom.org

Which made these claims:
Muslims’ Riots in Burma Leave a Trail of Death and Devastation

The Muslims’ Riots in Burma that were started on June 8, have ended, leaving over 40 Buddhist villages burnt, including five Buddhist Monasteries, one Hindu Temple and several deaths.
According to BBC Buddhist residents in western Burma have also killed nine Muslims as sectarian tension worsens in the region.
Burma has over six million Muslims, half of them illegal immigrants, and there are over 400 Mosques that promote hatred and violence.
Fearing that the violence may escalate, the police were ordered not to shoot live ammunition at Muslim mob.
Burma is a Majority Buddhist country, but it is under siege by Muslims and if the trend is not reversed, which is unlikely to happen, more riots will follow, more deaths will ensue and the country will plunge in chaos, which is how Muslims will take it over.
FFI source in Myanmar, Burma reports that Arakan has become like southern Thailand, Kosovo and Chechnya. <MANY GRAPHIC IMAGES OF MUTILATED CORPSES>


I also found this story regarding the same riots:

While the world is giving standing ovations to Burma dissident Aung San Suu Kyi, sectarian violence in her home country is not abating – with over 70 lives taken this month.

*Releasing Aung San Suu Kyi from years of house arrest and allowing her to join the parliament is only a gateway to Myanmar’s ambition to reshape itself into a “discipline-flourishing democracy." President Thein Sein warns that the sectarian violence, raging in the west of the country since early June, could threaten reforms as the nation emerges from decades of military rule.

Another week of clashes took the lives of 62 people and wounded dozens more in Rakhine state, a government official said on Thursday. This adds to ten Muslims lynched on June 3 by a Buddhist mob seeking revenge for the rape and murder of a local woman.

The incident ultimately resulted in the killings of dozens of people in revenge attacks and counter-attacks. Over 30,000 of people were displaced as neighborhoods were set ablaze and knife-wielding mobs stalked the streets.

Both sides – Buddhists and the Muslim minority Rohingya – point fingers at each other for the cycle of attacks.

Rohingya Muslims make up some 800,000 of Myanmar’s 60 million citizens. The country sees the minority as illegal immigrants from neighboring Bangladesh, and has denied them citizenship in decades of “systemic discrimination,” as described by Amnesty International.

At the same time, Bangladesh detained another 16 Muslims on Thursday as the latter fled mob violence.

“We are too scared to stay in Myanmar,” one of the detainees told reporters. “Even the army in Myanmar is harassing us.”

Bangladesh has denied refuge to over 2,000 people escaping Rakhine clashes, estimates the Associated Press.

Myanmar’s troubled state was under emergency rule for over a week, until officials declared Wednesday that most of the area was back under control. Residents say moods are still tense.

"We need more security," a local told Agence France-Presse. "People cannot sleep at night because they are afraid. Residents have asked for permission to guard their areas in groups at night but the authorities haven't responded yet."

Burma Burning: Over 70 dead in Myanmar sectarian violence — RT

Your source only describes one side's violence. Not only that, its the Muslim minority which is getting the worst of it. The Muslims are refugees and are encroach on land traditionally used by Buddhists. That tension led to Buddhist torching Muslim homes. That act led to Muslims torching Buddhist homes. A few tit-for-tat attacks and reprisal killings later and the area became like a war zone... with the Muslims suffering far more deaths than the Buddhists. But you'd never know that from your source's version of events, which only focused on one side's violence.

So if your sources are so one sided on that story... likely they are one sided in every story. These websites are deliberately manipulative.

That said, I'm not claiming that these website are lying or there stories are complete fabrications. Likely they aren't... but they are one sided and deliberately manipulative. 100 years ago, similar methods were used to portray black people negatively. If a black man raped a white woman, some racists news sources or white community leaders would spin it to sound like all black men have either raped a white women, or they want to rape a white women. Then people would go and lynch a group of innocent black men. these websites are no different. their purpose is to manipulate not inform. Brievik is an example of where the hate promoted by these websites can lead.
 

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Not only that, its the Muslim minority which is getting the worst of it. The Muslims are refugees and are encroach on land traditionally used by Buddhists. That tension led to Buddhist torching Muslim homes. That act led to Muslims torching Buddhist homes. A few tit-for-tat attacks and reprisal killings later and the area became like a war zone... with the Muslims suffering far more deaths than the Buddhists. But you'd never know that from your source's version of events, which only focused on one side's violence.

Where did those facts come from? I didn't see that in either article.
 

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Mali Islamists destroy more holy Timbuktu sites



BAMAKO - Al-Qaida-linked Mali Islamists armed with guns and pick-axes continued to destroy ancient mausoleums in the famed city of Timbuktu on Sunday, the second day of attacks on the UNESCO heritage sites, witnesses said.

The salafist Ansar Dine group backs strict sharia, Islamic law, and considers the shrines of the local Sufi version of Islam to be idolatrous. Sufi shrines have also been attacked by hardline Salafists in Egypt and Libya in the past year.

Residents say the group has threatened to destroy all of the 16 main mausoleum sites in Timbuktu despite the international outcry against the attacks. UNESCO Director-General Irina Bokova has called for an immediate halt to the attacks.

“We are subject to religion and not to international opinion. Building on graves is contrary to Islam. We are destroying the mausoleums because it is ordained by our religion,” Oumar Ould Hamaha, a spokesman for Ansar Dine, told Reuters by telephone from the northern city on Sunday.

Armed with Kalashnikovs and pick-axes, about 30 militants on Sunday destroyed three centuries-old mausoleums of saints, local journalist Yaya Tandina told Reuters.


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The Huffington Post, London Free press!!!

Next you two will be reading those well known hate sites, the BBC or Haaretz!!!
 

earth_as_one

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Naw....Islam is no threat to western values!!! Not in the good ole USA!!!

Michael Coren on Dearborn muslims attacking Christians | FaithFreedom.org

was immediately followed by this post:

Colpy... you got to stop visiting these hate sites. Its bad for your brain...

Sorry EAO, I didn't realize HuffPost was a hate site.....:)

When did I make that claim?

Clearly My post referred to the Freedom Faith website which is an Islamaphobic website. I would not have expected you to make such a blatant misrepresentation of my post. I'd have expected you to maintain higher standards than that.

Since I could not access the Freedom Faith web page referenced by Colpy, I went to their front page which consisted of mostly hate propaganda. To prove my point I referenced Freedom Faith's recent report regarding a conflict between Buddhists and Muslims in Burma, which only described the Muslim violence out of context.

Where did those facts come from? I didn't see that in either article.

Sorry, I should have referenced additional webpages that I used to draw those conclusions about the Muslim/Buddhist conflict in Burma.

BBC:
Q&A: Unrest in Burma's Rakhine state

What sparked the latest violence?

The rape and murder of a young Buddhist woman in Rakhine in May set off a chain of deadly sectarian clashes.

On 4 June, 10 Muslim men were killed after an angry crowd attacked a bus in the Taungup district, apparently mistakenly believing some passengers were responsible for the murder
Three Muslim men were later arrested for the rape. Two have now been sentenced to death, one died in custody
After Friday prayers following the bus attack, Muslims gathered in the town of Maung Daw
The crowd turned angry and began attacking nearby buildings
Police came to quell the protest but the crowd dispersed and began to set fire to predominantly Rakhine Buddhist villages in the area.
Curfew was declared in Maung Daw but the violence escalated and spread to many towns
Buddhists also launched reprisal attacks on Muslim villages.

Why has a state of emergency been declared and what does it mean?

In response to the violence, a state of emergency was declared across Rakhine. A state of emergency allows the introduction of martial law, which means the military can take over administrative control of the region.

State television said the order was in response to "unrest and terrorist attacks" and "intended to restore security and stability to the people immediately".

It is the first time that the current government has declared a state of emergency anywhere in Burma, and in a televised speech President Thein Sein said the violence could endanger moves towards democracy and stability.

What is the sectarian angle to the violence?

There have been long-standing tensions between Rakhine people, who are Buddhist and make up the majority of the state's population, and Muslims.

Most of these Muslims identify themselves as Rohingya, a group that originated in part of Bengal, now called Bangladesh.

In the towns bordering Bangladesh, where the violence has taken place, the majority of the population is Muslim.

In this latest outbreak of violence, it is unclear if the Muslims accused of murdering the Buddhist women, or those killed on the bus, or those involved in communal violence, are Rohingyas.

Overseas-based Rohingya rights groups say that because of the latest violence, Rohingyas have been attacked.

Who are the Rohingyas?

The United Nations describes Rohingya as a religious and linguistic minority from western Burma. It says the Rohingya are one of the most persecuted minorities in the world.

Read more here:
BBC News - Q&A: Unrest in Burma's Rakhine state

More information:
Muslim, Buddhist mob violence threatens new Myanmar image | Reuters

For details of this group and the history of this ongoing conflict, please reference this Amnesty International Report
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/a...5d5-11dd-bb24-1fb85fe8fa05/asa160052004en.pdf
 
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Clearly My post referred to the Freedom Faith website which is an Islamaphobic website.

Which clearly illustrates the absurdity of the term "Islamophobe". Faithfreedom.org is a website founded by and run by former Muslims. These are people whose parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, friends, etc. are Muslims. Yet, they are Islamophobes. Racists, even. :)

The United Nations describes Rohingya as a religious and linguistic minority from western Burma. It says the Rohingya are one of the most persecuted minorities in the world.


Apparently they're no slouches at persecuting also. From what I've been reading, they're more akin to squatters than being an ethnic minority. Apparently a lot of the violence they're suffering is retaliatory, and I don't mean over a rape in May. Reminds me a lot of Kosovo.
 

earth_as_one

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An Islamaphobe is not defined by what they used to be, but by what they are now.

Regarding the Rohingya, my point was the Islamaphobic hate site referenced by Freedom Faith org is demonstratively Islamaphobic and deliberately manipulative because they only reported one side's violence. If they were fair and balance, they'd have reported all the violence and provided context. If all you knew was what they reported, you'd have a highly biased version of this conflict.
 

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Naw....Islam is no threat to western values!!! Not in the good ole USA!!!

Michael Coren on Dearborn muslims attacking Christians | FaithFreedom.org

Colpy... you got to stop visiting these hate sites. Its bad for your brain.

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When did I make that claim?

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Soooo...Michael Coren runs a hate site?????

Actually, I was using HuffPost to demonstrate one need not visit "hate sites" to summon up a plethora of Islamic insanity and murder.

It is simply all too common.
 

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Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin



According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids—or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi‘i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”

This is a reference to the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’s companion, Amr bin al-As and his Arabian tribesmen, who invaded and conquered Egypt circa 641. Under al-As and subsequent Muslim rule, many Egyptian antiquities were destroyed as relics of infidelity. While most Western academics argue otherwise, according to early Muslim writers, the great Library of Alexandria itself—deemed a repository of pagan knowledge contradicting the Koran—was destroyed under bin al-As’s reign and in compliance with Caliph Omar’s command.

However, while book-burning was an easy activity in the 7th century, destroying the mountain-like pyramids and their guardian Sphinx was not—even if Egypt’s Medieval Mamluk rulers “de-nosed” the latter during target practice (though popular legend still attributes it to a Westerner, Napoleon).


Now, however, as Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sheikhs” observes, and thanks to modern technology, the pyramids can be destroyed. The only question left is whether the Muslim Brotherhood president of Egypt is “pious” enough—if he is willing to complete the Islamization process that started under the hands of Egypt’s first Islamic conqueror.

Nor is such a course of action implausible. History is laden with examples of Muslims destroying their own pre-Islamic heritage—starting with Islam’s prophet Muhammad himself, who destroyed Arabia’s Ka‘ba temple, transforming it into a mosque.

Asking “What is it about Islam that so often turns its adherents against their own patrimony?” Daniel Pipes provides several examples, from Medieval Muslims in India destroying their forefathers’ temples, to contemporary Muslims destroying their non-Islamic heritage in Egypt, Iraq, Israel, Malaysia, and Tunisia.


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Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin | FrontPage Magazine