Fed up with Islam Yet???

Colpy

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Good thing the illegal US invasion brought the Iraquis their freedomz...

Seems you just can't force people to love liberty.....

Of course, it was better when the US stayed.....they could learn something from the old British Empire. Insert yourself at the top, shoot the worst 1,000 arseholes in the nation, then let things go on basically as before........except with you calling the shots according to western values.

After a few generations, they just might learn.

Like India.
 

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Seems you just can't force people to love liberty.....

No, I think a more accurate statement would be that you can't force people to accept the liberty that you hand to them...if liberty is to be had, and is truly what they want, it can only be achieved by the will, and blood of the people...

The people need to rise up and take their own damn liberty...it's always been that way...
 

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Seems you just can't force people to love liberty.....

Of course, it was better when the US stayed.....they could learn something from the old British Empire. Insert yourself at the top, shoot the worst 1,000 arseholes in the nation, then let things go on basically as before........except with you calling the shots according to western values.

After a few generations, they just might learn.

Like India.
You must be referencing the North American Indians, if that isn't incentive to never give uo I don't know what would be. Too bad your relatives weren't recognized for who they were, 1 of the 1,000.
 

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Seems you just can't force people to love liberty.....

Of course, it was better when the US stayed.....they could learn something from the old British Empire. Insert yourself at the top, shoot the worst 1,000 arseholes in the nation, then let things go on basically as before........except with you calling the shots according to western values.

After a few generations, they just might learn.

Like India.

Worst post of the thread (even worse than the OP).

No, I think a more accurate statement would be that you can't force people to accept the liberty that you hand to them...if liberty is to be had, and is truly what they want, it can only be achieved by the will, and blood of the people...

The people need to rise up and take their own damn liberty...it's always been that way...

Thank you for some sanity in this thread.
 

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During the reign of the British Empire the rallying cry was "to make the world England". Now it is "to make the world American." The wonderful thing about empires is that they always self destruct. America is in its death throws. The only empire to have survived is the Roman Empire in the form of the Roman Catholic Church. They still own more world real estate than the Brits ever did.
 

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During the reign of the British Empire the rallying cry was "to make the world England". Now it is "to make the world American." The wonderful thing about empires is that they always self destruct. America is in its death throws. The only empire to have survived is the Roman Empire in the form of the Roman Catholic Church. They still own more world real estate than the Brits ever did.

I hope we can sort this **** out in less than 300 years.
 

Colpy

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During the reign of the British Empire the rallying cry was "to make the world England". Now it is "to make the world American." The wonderful thing about empires is that they always self destruct. America is in its death throws. The only empire to have survived is the Roman Empire in the form of the Roman Catholic Church. They still own more world real estate than the Brits ever did.

And it is a damned shame they haven't done a better job of it!

Because it is extremely difficult to find a free, peaceful, democratic society on earth that did not develop from western thought and culture.

Because western civilization IS superior to every other civilization on earth.

What is killing us is self-doubt, cowardice, and an inability to focus.

"What is wonderful" is the collapse of civilizations???

Perhaps, before you go blathering on, you should consider the most powerful alternatives....

Asian tyranny.

Or Islamic tyranny.

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There is no superior civilization. Also the idea that the only alternative to western civilization is tyranny, is asinine to say the least.
 

DaSleeper

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There is no superior civilization. Also the idea that the only alternative to western civilization is tyranny, is asinine to say the least.

An absolutely enlightening post:roll:
You get a sarcastic thumbs up...because i don't give negs exept when my mouse happens to slip when I click:lol:

BTW: You should get posting lessons from "Fuzzy";-)..Cartoons would go nice with your posts....
 

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And it is a damned shame they haven't done a better job of it!

Because it is extremely difficult to find a free, peaceful, democratic society on earth that did not develop from western thought and culture.

Because western civilization IS superior to every other civilization on earth.

What is killing us is self-doubt, cowardice, and an inability to focus.

"What is wonderful" is the collapse of civilizations???

Perhaps, before you go blathering on, you should consider the most powerful alternatives....

Asian tyranny.

Or Islamic tyranny.

.

I noticed you didn't care to comment on our super-evolved christian friends to the south condemning opposing candidates based on their own religious sect. Your love of secularism only goes so far as to criticize muslims.
 

Colpy

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I noticed you didn't care to comment on our super-evolved christian friends to the south condemning opposing candidates based on their own religious sect. Your love of secularism only goes so far as to criticize muslims.

Hey!

It's an election! They can criticize whatever they like, then the people get to vote.....and WHEN did you hear me sing the praises of a secular civilization???

You misunderstand me. Like Ayaan Hirsi Ali (an atheist, born a Muslim) I believe we should be a proudly CHRISTIAN civilization, tolerant of all others.
 

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I tried to find this story in other than right-wing media, and I could not. The Mail seems to have carried the original story, and it is reproduced in many places, but none that I could trust.
 

Cliffy

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I tried to find this story in other than right-wing media, and I could not. The Mail seems to have carried the original story, and it is reproduced in many places, but none that I could trust.
Your first mistake is to trust any media, left or right. They all spin. It is surprising that more people's heads don't fall off from being twisted so much.
 

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now, feel any safer knowing Iran will have Nukes.. LOL
 

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You misunderstand me. Like Ayaan Hirsi Ali (an atheist, born a Muslim) I believe we should be a proudly CHRISTIAN civilization, tolerant of all others.

I'm sure tolerance existed before Christianity did.

Do you agree?