Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes
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Their main interest is getting two power stations up and running. World conquest is an American & Friends agenda. How many military bases do they have on foreign soil?
The point is they were not under invasion before their troops were activated.
Palestinian resistance is much older than Hamas, who supported them when the Shaw was an American puppet? From 53 - 80 more or less, then a long war with Iraq so was it after that.
But they don't have that weapon, it is an error to treat them the same way you would if they had the weapon, and the means to deliver it successfully anyplace in the world, that is not a sensible course of action. The US and Israel whine and cry even when Iran is buying purely defensive systems. The fact is the threats of invasion from those same two make those sorts of purchases a necessity if an invasion is to be halted.
Perhaps you have something that put this article in error.
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"Initially, Iraq advanced far into Iranian territory, but was driven back within months. By mid-1982, Iraq was on the defensive against Iranian human-wave attacks. The U.S., having decided that an Iranian victory would not serve its interests, began supporting Iraq: measures already underway to upgrade U.S.-Iraq relations were accelerated, high-level officials exchanged visits, and in February 1982 the State Department removed Iraq from its list of states supporting international terrorism. (It had been included several years earlier because of ties with several Palestinian nationalist groups, not Islamicists sharing the worldview of al-Qaeda. Activism by Iraq's main Shiite Islamicist opposition group, al-Dawa, was a major factor precipitating the war -- stirred by Iran's Islamic revolution, its endeavors included the attempted assassination of Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz.)"
"The U.S. restored formal relations with Iraq in November 1984, but the U.S. had begun, several years earlier, to provide it with intelligence and military support (in secret and contrary to this country's official neutrality) in accordance with policy directives from President Ronald Reagan. These were prepared pursuant to his March 1982 National Security Study Memorandum (NSSM 4-82) asking for a review of U.S. policy toward the Middle East."
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
A standard you seem to have not applied to your own post.
It is enough to say that Christians and Muslims and all other religions of the Gentiles are seen in basically the same light. More or less meaning Israel would nuke any Nation that exists, bar none, if she felt it was 'good' for Israel.
MHZQuoting Colpy
Might be a valid point.....if Iran had not been fighting a world-wide war of proxy through the terror groups they support
Their main interest is getting two power stations up and running. World conquest is an American & Friends agenda. How many military bases do they have on foreign soil?
The site that Imanutjob publicly declared during his last visit and rant at the UN is of no value for providing enriched uranium for power plants -
The value is as a small backup to continue enriching uranium to the weapon level -
How many more of these sites are in Iran -
Iran diplomats signed off on a deal and Iran promptly backed out - Why - Do you think the puppets sent by Iran would sign off on anything that was not approved -
This deal would have taken the problem off the table and further talks could have been initiated on security guarantees, Israel. Hamas. HezbollahQuestion -
Are you 100 % convinced that Iran does not plan to make a nuclear bomb??
Might be a valid point.....if Iran had not been fighting a world-wide war of proxy through the terror groups they support
Their main interest is getting two power stations up and running. World conquest is an American & Friends agenda. How many military bases do they have on foreign soil?
The site that Imanutjob publicly declared during his last visit and rant at the UN is of no value for providing enriched uranium for power plants -
The value is as a small backup to continue enriching uranium to the weapon level -
How many more of these sites are in Iran -
Iran diplomats signed off on a deal and Iran promptly backed out - Why - Do you think the puppets sent by Iran would sign off on anything that was not approved -
This deal would have taken the problem off the table and further talks could have been initiated on security guarantees, Israel. Hamas. HezbollahQuestion -
Are you 100 % convinced that Iran does not plan to make a nuclear bomb??
Colpy, your gullibility is showing....
Israel didn't remove their settlers by force. If they did, they would have been bombarded with white phosphorus and flechettes. IDF soldiers would have abducted children and used them as human shields.
Israel will NOT stop their ethnic cleansing or come to terms with all the suffering they have caused over the years... Until then I doubt they will have peace.
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What the hell? Propaganda? Your sole source for news is American propaganda.
Now what are you even referring to as propaganda? The video? If so it only takes simple research to find out that nothing is made up in this documentary and that this is all factual information. Also they criticize the Iranian government in the documentary , so how does Iranian propaganda criticize Iran? :lol:
Ethnic cleansing? Aren't there still Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't they be the first to go if ethnic cleansing was actually what Israel was up to?
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Palestinian PM's sisters living in Israel
But what has this to do with Iran and nukes anyway?
Obviously he is Iranian, just which point are you saying he is promoting the acquiring of nukes? For the other points are you saying those are common practices in Islam? You have Muslims in your own neighborhod and you really thing that attitude is prevalent. Iran was goverened by a US installed dictator for some 25 years, just who should be suspicious of who?
Yes, as I said they are interested in power stations that will help improve the lives of the ones who live there.
Are you 100 % convinced that the US agenda doesn't have it roots in the revolt in the late '70's, same general situation as in Cuba? Get kicked out hold a lifelong grudge, what a sad little people the American politicians are.
“This regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”
:roll:I wasn't saying anything, obviously. It was the Ayatollah that was saying stuff. And all I did was post his quotes, the one about the bunch occupying Jerusalem in particular. I did that because someone said Iran had never threatened Israel. I showed them to be wrong.
No, I don't.
If there were any around here, I would think they were normal Muslims. I had a Muslim gf in the Okanagan. Her family are Lebanese, not Iranian. The male members of her family were pretty scary, but she is cool. As far as I can tell there are different Muslims who have different views on Islam than other Muslims.
I think anyone should be suspicious of anyone with nukes, but less so the States. They've shown themselves to be ones who can use restraint with their nukes. Iran hasn't.
Compare the numbers over the last 60 years. How long did the Indian Wars last in North America, same thing terrorize them and when they fight back call them heathen savages and them decimate them starting with the weakest, the very old and the very young and women of all ages.
There were still Jews alive in Poland at the end of WWII, was that ethnic cleansing or not?
What numbers?
I see a big difference. Native Indians didn't live in France and Britain. Palestinians live in Israel.
It was. It isn't the same as the Israeli/Palestinian thing, though.
If someone was going to do any ethnic cleansing wouldn't they start out where it would be the easiest to do first? Boy, you are slow.
So? Someone posted that Iran had never threatened Israel and one of those quotes proved otherwise.
Would it bother you to see a regime that seeks out peace and acquires it,
Most likely the reason you posted that one twice. Doesn't the US and Israel demand regime changes all the time. Care to post some vids on how well Panama and Haiti and Afghanistan and Iraq are doing now that the US has made the regime changes it (not the people who lived there)desired.
Where in that quote does it even hint that Iran (or Muslims)should be the one to make sure that change happens? 60 years of constant war and no peace anywhere in sight, when are the Jews themselves going to demand they have a gov that seeks and obtains a lasing peace?
Meaning there are some abnormal Muslims? How about abnormal Christians or abnormal Jews, are there any of those that hold positions of power and influence?
Uhmn, they let two go off when Japan was in retreat, that killed how many people?
Iran doesn't have any nukes, nor have they initiated any foreign wars in almost 200 years. The very worst years for them were when they were under the rule of an American installed dictator. The CIA even installed what is called their secret police. The US should still be paying monetary compensation for those 25 years of abuse by a foreign government.
That should pretty much clear up our exchange.
MHZQuoting AnnaG
I think anyone should be suspicious of anyone with nukes, but less so the States. They've shown themselves to be ones who can use restraint with their nukes. Iran hasn't.
Uhmn, they let two go off when Japan was in retreat, that killed how many people?Iran doesn't have any nukes, nor have they initiated any foreign wars in almost 200 years. The very worst years for them were when they were under the rule of an American installed dictator. The CIA even installed what is called their secret police. The US should still be paying monetary compensation for those 25 years of abuse by a foreign government.That should pretty much clear up our exchange.
Estimates of a US invasion of Japan were as high 1 million casualities - What would your decision have been -
I think anyone should be suspicious of anyone with nukes, but less so the States. They've shown themselves to be ones who can use restraint with their nukes. Iran hasn't.
Uhmn, they let two go off when Japan was in retreat, that killed how many people?Iran doesn't have any nukes, nor have they initiated any foreign wars in almost 200 years. The very worst years for them were when they were under the rule of an American installed dictator. The CIA even installed what is called their secret police. The US should still be paying monetary compensation for those 25 years of abuse by a foreign government.That should pretty much clear up our exchange.
Estimates of a US invasion of Japan were as high 1 million casualities - What would your decision have been -
Read some article that examines the original quote, it has been hi-jacked to mean something doesn't.
This might shed some light, not that I'll be holding my breath.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
Pretty hard to be mistaken about this.
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