Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes

Iran should have Nuke Weapons


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Goober

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Come on, Goober!

You know the truth!

All recorded human history is a construct of capitalist bankers intent only on perverting the truth as set out by Comrade Stalin in those glorious days of the purges!

There was no such thing as Israel! Those Romans were simply fools, stoges of the right!

There is no such thing as Jews! Simply bankers in disguise, sacrificing babies and forever perpetuating the Holocaust fantasy in the building of their psuedo nation which will soon rule the world! As fore-told in the Protocols!

Rise up now, tortured, deceived masses!
You have nothing to lose but your sanity!

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Colpy

Well ya know I am a DDH - Dumb Down Homer - My saying I might add -

These people live and thrive in the dark and youknow what type I am referring to - scared of the light - they are on all Forums and some under different names -
 

MHz

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Come on, Goober!

You know the truth!

All recorded human history is a construct of capitalist bankers intent only on perverting the truth as set out by Comrade Stalin in those glorious days of the purges!

There was no such thing as Israel! Those Romans were simply fools, stoges of the right!

There is no such thing as Jews! Simply bankers in disguise, sacrificing babies and forever perpetuating the Holocaust fantasy in the building of their psuedo nation which will soon rule the world! As fore-told in the Protocols!

Rise up now, tortured, deceived masses!
You have nothing to lose but your sanity!
Changed your drinking water lately? lol You should have left that sarcasm sticker in bigger letters, the JDL already has your post in hand but they would not have bothered looking for fine print. Easy to tell how your next year is going to go, be glad operation cast lead was last year. The best they will be able to muster this year is a false flag injury to their own citizens with blame going to (wait for it, lol) Iran!
You would agree that the ones in power in that troubled land are there in part because of their claim to be special to God? Even if you won't admit it that is what they believe. Unfortunately they are not the brightest when it comes to understanding what God has said to them in both Testaments. If observance was their strong point the exile into Neb's Babylon would have never happened. The Temple would still have been dismantled in 70AD because the next important events that happens in that area is Satan claiming that he is God. God certainly isn't going to allow that to happen in a temple He has had built (so that Jesus had a house of safety, God' presence with a certain amount of real power) Now if God had Israel scattered to the winds back in 70AD and through prophecy state that this exile is until God has a Temple standing that He makes without the help of human hands, how could allowing some to die in that event be a good thing. Well, with them safely out of the way when He wipes that whole land bare of every living thing there are none of them there to die. Hasn't anybody ever touched your shoulders and ushered you to a spot that was safer than the one you chose to be in (when danger is also present). If you think the RCC is misguided in terms of how they run the Church how much more worse would a blind Jew be in terms of just understanding what God was telling them. Right off the bat, how many copies of the NT can be found in the homes of the ones in charge of running things there at this very minute? Not one unless you want the corrupt version that the Christian goats peddle as the truth.
 

darkbeaver

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You mean like the west is engaged with China now, right????


EXACTLY the same thing.....except the Nazis weren't murdering people by the millions yet, only a clarvoyent could have forseen where that was going....the Chinese have already butchered tens of millions.......

This stuff is silly, what Bush's grandfather did before 1937 in business with Germany was only questionable in the most abstract sense........ and between 1937 and December 1941 Germany and the USA were NOT at war.........

So what, exactly, is the BIG revelation?????

The West, I wonder what you think The West is Colpy. How many has your much beloved delusion of The West murdered Colpy? Or as I suspect do you think the dead were justly executed in a humane manner as prescribed by the Sacred Western Ethics. You are silly, stuff is inanimate. A state of war is not often if ever delineated by fixed calendar dates. The war began when the first investments were made, they continue to earn both blood and gold. If you're going to be a victim of history Colpy it would perhaps comfort you a bit to understand it.
 

darkbeaver

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Colpy

Well ya know I am a DDH - Dumb Down Homer - My saying I might add -

These people live and thrive in the dark and youknow what type I am referring to - scared of the light - they are on all Forums and some under different names -

Take care Booger, don't be so cocky when you talk of the dark and the light, we all need equal measures of both. It's entirely possible you know nothing of this though, by your own above admission, which I might add is a laudable realization on the road to enlightenment. There you go, a doggy biscuit for you, now run along and play till it gets dark boy.:lol:
 

Goober

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Take care Booger, don't be so cocky when you talk of the dark and the light, we all need equal measures of both. It's entirely possible you know nothing of this though, by your own above admission, which I might add is a laudable realization on the road to enlightenment. There you go, a doggy biscuit for you, now run along and play till it gets dark boy.:lol:
DB - MHZ

Next - Iran with nukes - Numerous UN resolutions against Iran - They signed the NPT and the additional protocols - and from what I understand 3 of the UN Resolutions do authorize the use of force. Iran with Nukes -

Is that a positive or a negative for some sort of peace in the Mid East? Iran has not lived up to any agreements -

The US and Europe- Russia & China thought they had a done deal a few months ago - Until the hardliners torpedoed it -

So I believe that the time frame between sanctions and how effective they are - will determine if Iran is bombed -

Tactical specialist have stated it would take repeated bombing runs to slow down or destroy Iran's ability to produce a nuke for many years - We all know that other targets will be destroyed as well - Air - Army and Naval units - particularly Naval due to the threat of closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

While many in the Arab world will condemn any bombings -

The Saudi's and other Sunni States will be heaving a sigh of relief -
They are scared shiiitless of Iran with a nuclear capability.

I noticed that all you and MHZ do is come with insults etc - Petty - Anti Semitic creatures -But neither of you has attempted to address the key points I brought forward - But that is the problem - You know what the real answers are but refuse to see it - Livin in the dark man, livin in the dark.
 

ironsides

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Good statement, now the question. Enough with the blaming, exactly what sanctions against Iran could be taken that would work?
 

Goober

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Good statement, now the question. Enough with the blaming, exactly what sanctions against Iran could be taken that would work?
No 1 - Immediate feezing of all funds, assets and seizing companies - and No gas - Diesel

Failure to negotiate within a set time frame would entail that these assets then become the property of the UN and could not be returned to Iran -

Begin the movement of air assets by European countries to bases in the Mid East - along with other military units.

No 2 - 1 week later - all exports of any spare parts - excluding medical and food would begin and be a total embargo -


No 3 - 2 weeks after - Closing of Itanian Embassies and consulates - Sending those Iranians on visa's back to Iran -

No 4 - 4 - 6 weeks later - Blockade the Straights of Hormuz - Intercept and confiscate Iranian oil exports -

Yes blockade is considered an act of war.

Failure to negotiate would entail that these assets then become the property of the UN and could not be returned to Iran -

The choices are simple - Iran with a Nuke will destabilize the Mid East even more - Many Arab countires are planning on building their own nuclear capabilities -
So do we need a nuke arms race in that area. No

Would attacking Iran destabilze the area - yes - Choose which one is worse in the long term.
 

MHz

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Good statement, now the question. Enough with the blaming, exactly what sanctions against Iran could be taken that would work?
Leave them alone and reimburse them all the money they lost ever since the US was kicked out in '79. Two power plants running at 80% capacity is a sweet chunk of change considering how long they have been off-line.
 

MHz

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Would attacking Iran destabilze the area - yes - Choose which one is worse in the long term.
Let me guess, for some reason or another you won't be enlisting and insisting on being in the 1st wave?
You are about as destabilized as anyone should be allowed to get. lol You actually deserve a whack on the pee-pee for your post.
 

Goober

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Let me guess, for some reason or another you won't be enlisting and insisting on being in the 1st wave?
You are about as destabilized as anyone should be allowed to get. lol You actually deserve a whack on the pee-pee for your post.

MHZ
Correct - I retired in 2000 and they don't enlist people that have had heart attacks - So again you prove my point -
Insults are your forte as you have no answer to any points brought up -

USGFAG -
 

MHz

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What a total non surprise. The time for objections was when they were applying for the build permit. The Us agreed with their petition.
You whole post is encouraging war crimes and naked agression with no provication and you want a pat on the back?

HYGGOIYA
 

Goober

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What a total non surprise. The time for objections was when they were applying for the build permit. The Us agreed with their petition.
You whole post is encouraging war crimes and naked agression with no provication and you want a pat on the back?

HYGGOIYA
Best read the UN Resolutions than -
It appears if the US and Europe does not have UN authoity then you get all messed up - when they do - same result - all messed up -
USGFAG -
 

MHz

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Perhaps the UN courts can engage the two warmongering Nations of Israel and the US enough to curtail any further ambitions in the area until they are cleared of any accusations since 1950 and upto the end of 2009. Shouldn't take anymore than 2 or 3 hundred years
 

ironsides

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Leave them alone and reimburse them all the money they lost ever since the US was kicked out in '79. Two power plants running at 80% capacity is a sweet chunk of change considering how long they have been off-line.


Why do we have to reimburse them anything, as you mentioned they did kick us out in '79? They seized what ever assets we had there, those hostages left with the clothes on their backs. As for power plants, all they have to do is redirect some of that nuclear research to power plants as they originally stated and they wouldn't be in this mess.
 

ironsides

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Perhaps the UN courts can engage the two warmongering Nations of Israel and the US enough to curtail any further ambitions in the area until they are cleared of any accusations since 1950 and upto the end of 2009. Shouldn't take anymore than 2 or 3 hundred years


Get real.
 

ironsides

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So peaceful Iran a country that never invades anybody got caught doing what??? Invading Iraq so that's what.

Iran 'invades' Iraq to seize rich oil field


Armed Iranian troops crossed their border and seized an Iraqi oil field in a daring raid yesterday, officials in Baghdad charged.
Iran denied the incursion but the tension between the two onetime enemies drove oil prices up by $2 a barrel on world markets.
Iraq's national security council held an emergency meeting last night and officials said they were trying for a diplomatic solution.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/iran_invades_iraq_to_seize_rich_501s2tNCATugfaccXRolhJ#ixzz0a94VNxR0

 

Goober

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Perhaps the UN courts can engage the two warmongering Nations of Israel and the US enough to curtail any further ambitions in the area until they are cleared of any accusations since 1950 and upto the end of 2009. Shouldn't take anymore than 2 or 3 hundred years
MHZ
It is common knowledge that the Iranian Govt and their Religious thugs use every known tactic to intimidate - Torture - rape - murder - these are the ones you defend -

Of course you will say the US is to blame - drag some crap up from the days of the Shah and SAVAK -

The Iranian regime is scared to death of the youth rebellion they are encountering - It would not surprise me in the least that they will use live ammunition in the event that an anti -Govt protest goes to far. Waiting for your reply. Your Pal Goober.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/iran-admits-jailed-protesters-were-beaten-to-death/article1406495/

Iran's hard-line judiciary acknowledged for the first time Saturday that at least three prisoners detained after June's disputed presidential election were beaten to death by their jailers, confirming a key claim by the country's opposition movement.
The surprising acknowledgment followed months of repeated denials by police and other authorities that the deaths of protesters in Iranian custody were caused by abuse.In a statement, the judiciary said 12 officials at Kahrizak prison were charged – three of them with murder. The prison, on the southern outskirts of the capital, Tehran, was at the centre of the opposition's claims that prisoners were tortured and raped in custody.