Enbridge: Thwarting vs. ensuring safety and prosperity?

taxslave

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It will soon be open season on protesters. We must protect our jobs.Any of them that don't like living in a province with a pipeline can move elsew here.Like some third world country instead of trying to make Canada into one.
 

thinkboutit

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It will soon be open season on protesters. We must protect our jobs.Any of them that don't like living in a province with a pipeline can move elsew here.Like some third world country instead of trying to make Canada into one.
This pipeline is a job export. I think I'll be joining Cliffy. In the interest of all Canadians.
 

petros

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But you don't want those industrial jobs in Canada because they allegedly aren't green. Do you even know what you want?

... And your preferred option of not developing these resources and infrastructure will magically result in domestic jobs?

They'd scream bloody murder over a polymer industry.
 

petros

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Or needed medical care. Would they deny the use of anything from the petrochem industry needed to save their life?
 

captain morgan

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Of course not. They are the first and loudest to demand the provision of these entitlements.

As a group, they don't have the cognitive fortitude to understand that the petro/chem industry is the backbone of society today
 

Cliffy

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You two are funny - shilling for the rapers and pillagers. The petro/chem industry has a strangle hold of society. They are the richest industry and force us to use their inferior products. It is barely 150 years since they came into being and they literally control the world economy and are the motivating factor in the wars in the middle east, support despotic dictators and control most governments, including ours.
The medical health industry that relies on petro/chems is not a health industry, it is a sick industry (double entendre intended). The world got along fine without them from time immemorial but like junkies, we have become completely addicted, as a society) on their poisons. There are alternative energy sources available but the industry will not allow their use to protect their profit and power base. They perpetrate the myth that more is better to enslave humanity to their vile products. But, go ahead and make fun of people who see through the BS to justify your own greed and ignorance, if it helps you get through your life.
 

damngrumpy

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I do not want our resources going to Asia period. These people are competing
with us for prosperity. We have the resource and we should be using it to our
advantage. First all material leaving should be refined and processed and then
we determine who we want to share it with. I am not against pipellines I am
opposed to this company operating in BC Kinder Morgan I don't have a problem
with aside from where they ship too. Pipelines should run east west and we get
first dibs at a Canadian price and the world we do trade with gets a much different
price.
 

taxslave

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I do not want our resources going to Asia period. These people are competing
with us for prosperity. We have the resource and we should be using it to our
advantage. First all material leaving should be refined and processed and then
we determine who we want to share it with. I am not against pipellines I am
opposed to this company operating in BC Kinder Morgan I don't have a problem
with aside from where they ship too. Pipelines should run east west and we get
first dibs at a Canadian price and the world we do trade with gets a much different
price.

Aside from your fantasy of anyone getting the necessary permits to build a petrochemical plant in Canada I tend to agree with you. The western provinces should get oil at a greatly reduced price from Ontario and the rest of the world.

Actually I don't much care if one drop of oil ever passes through NG as long as we get to build the pipeline.
 

petros

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You two are funny - shilling for the rapers and pillagers. The petro/chem industry has a strangle hold of society. They are the richest industry and force us to use their inferior products. It is barely 150 years since they came into being and they literally control the world economy and are the motivating factor in the wars in the middle east, support despotic dictators and control most governments, including ours.
The medical health industry that relies on petro/chems is not a health industry, it is a sick industry (double entendre intended). The world got along fine without them from time immemorial but like junkies, we have become completely addicted, as a society) on their poisons. There are alternative energy sources available but the industry will not allow their use to protect their profit and power base. They perpetrate the myth that more is better to enslave humanity to their vile products. But, go ahead and make fun of people who see through the BS to justify your own greed and ignorance, if it helps you get through your life.

They aren't the richest cliffy. You are.

I do not want our resources going to Asia period. These people are competing
with us for prosperity. We have the resource and we should be using it to our
advantage. First all material leaving should be refined and processed and then
we determine who we want to share it with. I am not against pipellines I am
opposed to this company operating in BC Kinder Morgan I don't have a problem
with aside from where they ship too. Pipelines should run east west and we get
first dibs at a Canadian price and the world we do trade with gets a much different
price.

You don't like the Alaskan gasoline imported from Puget Sound refineries?
 

captain morgan

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I do not want our resources going to Asia period. These people are competing
with us for prosperity. We have the resource and we should be using it to our
advantage. First all material leaving should be refined and processed and then
we determine who we want to share it with. I am not against pipellines I am
opposed to this company operating in BC Kinder Morgan I don't have a problem
with aside from where they ship too. Pipelines should run east west and we get
first dibs at a Canadian price and the world we do trade with gets a much different
price.

This position would have a lot more force if BC hadn't already sold-off the entire Lower Mainland to Asia in the last 20 years.
 

JLM

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You two are funny - shilling for the rapers and pillagers. The petro/chem industry has a strangle hold of society. They are the richest industry and force us to use their inferior products. It is barely 150 years since they came into being and they literally control the world economy and are the motivating factor in the wars in the middle east, support despotic dictators and control most governments, including ours.
The medical health industry that relies on petro/chems is not a health industry, it is a sick industry (double entendre intended). The world got along fine without them from time immemorial but like junkies, we have become completely addicted, as a society) on their poisons. There are alternative energy sources available but the industry will not allow their use to protect their profit and power base. They perpetrate the myth that more is better to enslave humanity to their vile products. But, go ahead and make fun of people who see through the BS to justify your own greed and ignorance, if it helps you get through your life.


Don't go going overboard, Cliffy, the world got along quite well for millennia without penicillin or insulin.
 

Cliffy

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Don't go going overboard, Cliffy, the world got along quite well for millennia without penicillin or insulin.
The world got on quite well for billions of years without humans too. The problem with humanity is not over population, it is the extreme demand for and use of resources. We live on a finite planet with finite resources. 90% of what we use is not necessary. We have no concept, anymore, what the difference is between what we need and what we want.
 

JLM

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The world got on quite well for billions of years without humans too. The problem with humanity is not over population, it is the extreme demand for and use of resources. We live on a finite planet with finite resources. 90% of what we use is not necessary. We have no concept, anymore, what the difference is between what we need and what we want.


You're batting almost 1000 Cliffy, what most of us need is some air, water, food and shelter BUT some of us at times need insulin and penicillin. -:)